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Hello Hoopers!
I need your intelligence~ I am wanted to organize a hoop jam in the next couple of months, but I need some advice on how to go about this. I have a particular public park in mind, but I am open to other ideas. What is the best way for me to go about a music setup, seeing as how an outlet is not readily available? Are there other issues I may run into? Am I forgetting a crucial part? HELP!!!
Thanx, Mimi
I need your intelligence~ I am wanted to organize a hoop jam in the next couple of months, but I need some advice on how to go about this. I have a particular public park in mind, but I am open to other ideas. What is the best way for me to go about a music setup, seeing as how an outlet is not readily available? Are there other issues I may run into? Am I forgetting a crucial part? HELP!!!
Thanx, Mimi
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Re: Advice for a jam
Mon, July 13, 2009 - 6:26 AMI recommend recruiting drummers instead of trying to do canned music. They love it and it's so much easier in a variety of ways and more fun too. Here's some info I wrote for the city of Charlotte when they were thinking of starting a regular hoop jam. (Note this was written back at the beginning of our hoop jam process. It's so much bigger now and no longer requires me to attend every week, which is kind of a relief. Also, we found a gym that let us carry it over through the winter so it is a year round hoop jam):
Hoop jams are an excellent way to build hoop community. We recently started a weekly hoop jam in Raleigh and it is an amazing success. We've been doing it for six weeks and we have from 4-8 drummers each week and 15-25 hoopers. I want to tell you how I organized it so you can do it too if you'd like.
First, I had to find a place. My friend Rebecca and I went to several public parks and we ultimately chose Pullen Park. Pullen Park is a park that has a lot of kids during the day but is pretty quiet in the evenings, which is when we'd like to get together. It has a big, flat place where we can hoop and no houses around to complain about the drumming. There are picnic tables, a water fountain and a big shady space. There is also a restroom nearby. I asked the manager of the park if it would be okay if we had some drummers and hula hoopers meet there each week and he gave us his okay.
Then I solicited drummers. I contacted the Raleigh Drum Circle as well as local drummers I knew and asked them to help out. Turns out, they loved it! They love drumming for dancers and were anxious to get together and, so far, there have been more every single week.
Then I posted an announcement on the Raleigh at Play tribe, the Raleigh Hoops tribe, the yahoo groups for Carolina Bellydancers, Raleigh Drum Circle, Caro Burn and on Craig's List. I also put up posters around town at the colleges, the Whole Foods, places like that. You could solicit:
Charlotte Soul: tribes.tribe.net/charlottesoul
Charlotte, NC: cltnc.tribe.net/
Charlotte, North Cackalaka: charlottenc.tribe.net/
Best of Charlotte: bestofcharlotte.tribe.net/
plus Carolina Bellydancers and Caroburn. I'd also post to the Transformus tribe.
(I'd also recommend putting up a poster at the World Dance Center as well as other dance studios, yoga studios, art studios, colleges, natural food stores, gyms, etc.)
I also take flyers with me to any music thing that I take my hoop with me to hoop. I gave out 30 last Saturday at the Budweiser Outdoor Music Series, which brought out at least 10 new hooprs this past week. Also, bring fliers to each jam so that people who come can give them to their friends. Make sure you invite passers-by to play too.
I also recommend bringing some beater hoops to share. At least 10 of various sizes. This way, people in the park can play. But be prepared to sell people hoops or tell them how to make them when they get into it. I didn't do this to sell hoops but I've sold a lot of hoops since turning people onto hooping at the Hoop Jam.
The Raleigh Hoop Jam is Wednesday evenings from 6:30 to 8:30. It's nice to have something to do during the week. Also, folks travel a lot on the weekends so it's harder to get people to come then I think. Plus, the parks are full of kids! I love kids but I prefer to hoop with at least as many adults as kids.
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These days our jam has at least 10 drummers each week and 20-40 hoopers. It's really grown and is self-sustaining now. The drummers love to see their beats interpreted and the hoopers love to dance to drummers. I take a lot more hoops because there are more people but that's the only way the responsibility has grown.
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Re: Advice for a jam
Mon, July 13, 2009 - 6:28 AMp.s. You can have a hoop making party to make the hoops. Make sure you make them big and grippy. A lot of your hoopers will be new hoopers and you want them to be successful. -
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Mon, July 13, 2009 - 7:04 AMi second the drummers! i found the rochester open drum circle online, and they were excited to join up with us hoopers! they love drumming, and we love hooping, twas a match made in heaven! it's really great and each week there's more hoopers and drummers and friends of hoopers and drummers. live drumming totally kicks the little stereo's butt!
i had 15 or so hoops to start with, plus a few other people had some/ got hooked and made some, but we're having a hoop making party at the end of this month! it's going to be in my back yard so we can boil water in the kitchen, but when i was thinking about doing it at the park, i had also toyed with the idea of a hoop decorating party. since boiling water/hair dryer would have been harder in the park, i was thinking i'd find out which weights people liked from my hoops and bring in some undecorated black ones for them to tape -
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Re: Advice for a jam
Mon, July 13, 2009 - 8:00 AMA camp stove is a good option for boiling water in the park.
Also, if you must have canned music, boom boxes suck. The cd player's break as do the inputs and pretty much anything else that can break. The sound is usually pretty bad too and they tear through batteries, especially if you're playing cds. Plus there's the whole cd's skipping and getting scratched and dealing with cases too. If you decide to go with a canned music, I recommend getting an Ion Audio Portable Block Rocdker. Great sound, long battery life, incredibly sturdy, made for indoors and out. Rechargable battery too. Plays Ipods, cds, mp3 players. They're about $300-400 but worth is. You can raise money by having a fund raiser or something if you don't have it. They can be found at Frontgate.com, Best Buy, COSTCO and Urban Outfitters and probably other retailers. -
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Mon, July 13, 2009 - 9:00 AMyeah, i thought of the camp stove for boiling water, but the park has some specific rules against camp stoves in the shelters. so then i thought of a hot pot, but they'll only turn the power on if you've actually reserved the shelter... it just seemed easier to do the hoop making at my place! -
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Tue, July 14, 2009 - 9:56 PMWow! Thanks so much! You have given me so much to think about, but it's EXTREMELY helpful advice.
I have a great location in mind ~ Island Park, which has great humongously open grassy fields, with sidewalk all the way around. Bathrooms (which are the nicest in town as far as public parks go), a tiki-style restaurant, and the most fabulous view of the bay. Now I just have to ask about the drumming and such.
Do you ever have problems with this type of gathering attracting (for lack of a better term) societal scum? I am concerned utmost about safety. We have a drum circle that takes place every Sunday at the local beach, but after about a year, it attracted a large group of drunks, gangs, and perverts. There have been several arrests related to the drum circle's chaos. It started out as a group of belly dancers, and then families started coming to watch, but then it was over taken by a bunch of shady characters. Not a safe place for kids. Is there a way to ward off the riff-raff? I know I am not in charge of everyone's ability to trust their instincts and follow basic safety rules, but I would like to keep the potential for harm to a minimum. -
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Tue, July 14, 2009 - 11:08 PMWe haven't had anything like that. We do end the gym at sunset though. We don't stay after dark. If I had that going on, I'd ask the police to drop by. They'll often do that and I imagine it would frighten away any nefarious characters. -
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Re: Advice for a jam
Wed, July 15, 2009 - 7:22 PMcitizen-times.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article
Bums watch the Hoop Jam in Asheville. I am not used to that sort of thing.. eventually I was able to ignore them.
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Re: Advice for a jam
Thu, July 16, 2009 - 8:50 AMCaroleena, it is very easy to see why you wouldn't recommend a portable boom box for an outdoor jam, however, I am still wondering if anyone has one that's slightly less expensive than the one you're recommending?
Mimi, I am in a similar boat as you: I just took over the organization of the weekly hoop meetups here in Boston. One of my main issues so far has been finding a reliable and loud sound system for the jams.
I'm glad this thread popped up, because I never even thought about using live drummers, and I really love that idea! I'm certainly going to look into that possibility, but in the meantime, does anyone have any other recommendations for a cheap, but still effective, speaker set? I have a very small portable iPod player, but it's just not cutting it. If any of you have one that you like, I'd love to hear about it.
I also posted this question over on the hula hooping tribe, because I figured it might be better as a separate thread:
hooping.tribe.net/thread/01...8fc7845174
Much hooping love,
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Thu, July 16, 2009 - 10:00 AMi just saw your other thread rachel and hopped over here to send you the link, but i see you found it! ^__^ -
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Thu, July 16, 2009 - 12:13 PMI am hopeful that the drummers in my area will organize. I hear rumors or more frequent circles that I can haunt with my hoops.
I have been using a Courier PA system - one small speaker - that is re-charge-able and plugs into an i-pod or whatever. It is plenty loud enough and has a chord-less mike. I even used it for my folk music - for gigs. (I sing and play acoustic guitar.) I mounted the speaker on a mike stand - it is light.
My husband just got an amp/system called a Cube Street by Roland. It is also small (11 lbs.) & seems to do the same things - so I am thinking about selling my Courier system. I will keep ya'll posted. You can look into those products tho -
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Re: Advice for a jam
Thu, July 16, 2009 - 7:11 PM
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Re: Advice for a jam
Tue, July 28, 2009 - 9:03 PMSorry, I've been idle for a while now...I just started an Etsy business, and it's taken up so much of my free time that I haven't picked up my hoop in weeks. Shameful, I know.
Anyhoo, I am looking at probably hosting a jam on Sunday, without much active preparation. This will be interesting. I'll let you know how it goes. -
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Re: Advice for a jam
Thu, July 30, 2009 - 10:25 AMgood luck with your sunday jam! don't be frustrated if it isn't exactly what you might have imagined. these things grow over time! the more you're out there hooping, the more your town will become aware of hooping and get involved!
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