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Have you noticed that house music is always talking about how it is, in fact, house music? Or how house music is all about 'getting that feeling' ?
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Thu, June 25, 2009 - 9:36 AMive noticed this much more in deep house than anywhere else. now im not trying to hate on deep house cause a good portion of it is awesome but it can get a little corny after awhile. but when you look at some of the grittier forms like electro or booty house, you find the lyrical samples to be much more sexual and explicit. ive also found house to be something you either appreciate or you dont. people in europe seem to take it extremely seriously, a little too much for my tastes. and on the west coast its totally bouge and no one listens to it except some europeans in collared shirts with ties (no lie). the east coast is somewhere in the middle, both geographically and in terms of our stance on the genre. so it seems to me that there is that internal struggle to recognize those kickass thumping beats and acknowledge their greatness (after all, house has been around for a minute) while these newer more 'bastardized' forms attempt to take it less seriously than those to the east of us. its an interesting cross-section of ideas. house was my introduction to electronic music so its pretty hard for me to find something negative to say about it. ive yet to find a form i didnt like/appreciate. but you know.... 'not everyone understands house music. its a spiritual thing... a body thing... a SOUL thing!' :) -
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Tue, June 30, 2009 - 8:59 AMnobody west coast listens to house? Dude are you kidding? that must be a joke. There is a HUGE house scene in the west coast. Bay area is house city man. M3, Miguel Migs, Jay J, Ellen Ferrato, ..... endless DJs. I spent decades in CA listening to house.
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Thu, June 25, 2009 - 1:28 PMIt's the only genre in the world that really does that. Except that "Pop Music" song a while ago.
I, for one, stay away from spinning or producing self-aware house music, because I personally think it's a cheap gimmick. However, there are notable exceptions like "House Music" by Eddie Amador or "Girl I'll House You" by the Jungle Brothers, mostly because of how it's worded ("when you in my hut, you know what's up", etc.), because they're obviously done in a tongue-in-cheek manner. "Move Your Body" by Marshall Jefferson is also one that I'll spin out just because it's an old-school classic and it was the FIRST one to do it. But "This Is Our House" I've vowed to never spin, even the a cappella, so overdone.
Also BigJawn, you kind-of repeated yourself in your original post. You said that the songs are either about house music or "getting that feeling", when in fact "getting that feeling" is indirectly talking about house music, because "house is a feeling". Therefore, when a song is talking about "getting that feeling", they are in fact talking about house music. =D -
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Thu, June 25, 2009 - 5:38 PMJust because of this thread I'm gonna throw down one of "those" tracks at Summer Fest! -
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Thu, June 25, 2009 - 6:23 PMYou are so right. Like have you ever heard a sick bassline drop and hear some vocals that say "This is real dubstep yall!!" or "glitch hop womp womp makes you dance" .... But don't forget that hip hop will always talk about itself more than house, even. Especially if it's underground, or "real" hip hop. Don't get me wrong though, I love hip hop and house to death. But it's still really funny that they talk about their genre so much, as if we don't know what kind of music we're choosing to listen to :) -
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Fri, June 26, 2009 - 12:30 AMThe sonic recreation of the end of the world...
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Tue, June 30, 2009 - 9:01 AMthis threaqd has inspired me to play ' do you remember house'
'i remember house when house had loops, i remember house when house was disco...
before house was disco!'
love that song
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Thu, June 25, 2009 - 10:43 PMAre you saying that it's not the new sound? Because it's clearly stating that it is. -
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Thu, June 25, 2009 - 10:45 PMThis was a response to Tubbo's post. My aim is terrible, but my point remains valid!
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Sun, June 28, 2009 - 3:29 PMSort of like when they slowly overlay a new pad synth and go "aww yeah, this is progressive yall."
Or like when satanic metal bands say "death to false metal"
where's the death to false house?
i really like getting that feeling listening to psybient at 3am in a place between dream and waking... why wait to 3am.... hmmm putting headphones on to "get that feeling"
so i know that feeling well.
what exactly is the house feeling? something with jacked up seratonin levels, dim lights, dehydration, and alot of sexy people wearing virtually nothing except for sweat while gyrating their body around to repetitive beats? sounds like i would feel good if i was there. -
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Sun, June 28, 2009 - 5:12 PMLucas I think you just won quote of the day for that last paragraph there -
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Sun, June 28, 2009 - 7:50 PMtoo bad i still have to rent my house and don't own my house ;)~ -
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Tue, June 30, 2009 - 10:26 AMHouse music makes a lot of people feel happy and want to dance/hoop/poi, sing, what-have-you. House along with breaks will bring more people out in our area than any other EDM genre, except of course my genre of TechJoe ;-).
So who cares if it talks about it's own genre, does the music make YOU want to dance, hoop, spin poi, etc., does the music make YOU feel happy/good, does the music move YOU for whatever reason, if yes, than shut the hell up, so what if it self-promotes in it's lyrics.
Last time I checked ALL DJ's shamelessly, sickenly self-promote themselves in my opinion so just goes with the territory so stop bitchin', shut up and dance or whatver to some "Uh, ew, goo, you, I am House, House, House, dah, doo, ew, sue, doo-da-THE HOUSE MUSIC is IN THE HOUSE............................. ;-) ." -
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Tue, June 30, 2009 - 5:11 PMas they say in school, it's not a failing grade but it's definitely "points off" for copping out on the lyrics. as an avid listener of music, i enjoy songs with great lyrics and i enjoy songs i can move to. i feel that a song that can do both these things would be a 100% grade in my book. DJs don't make house, composers/producers do (even if they don't want to admit it), so this isn't really about the DJ self-promoting as much as it's about a genre beating a dead topic into the ground.
personally, i feel like house is such a wonderful genre of music and (most of) it's listeners are smarter than that. the only reason they even mentioned the genre in the tune ("Move Your Body" was the first one IIRC) was because at the time house did not have an identity outside of Chicago, and Marshall Jefferson wanted to change that. now that house is pretty much the largest sector of EDM (worldwide), i don't think that's really necessary anymore. i think the listeners can handle some well-written lyrics that actually make you THINK.
imagine that, dance music that opens your mind...
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The top of what exactly is house reaching for?
Tue, June 30, 2009 - 12:04 PMSo true. This type of house that repeats itself to let one know what they are listening to (in case its their 1st time at a party and they really don't know) usually falls under a category we used to call back in the day 'Handbag House' because the queens LOVED it and were always singing along so joyously - not to pigeon hole, they just related to it a lil bit more then others in the room. Ssly, and not puttin anyone down in anyway, these tracks I speak of were and are still today, Gay. Yes I just capitalized it and can't think of other words to describe; "house ain't giving up, house ain't gonna stop, we keep reaching for, reaching for the top". Ok 'soulful' and 'uplifting' do work, but to where is the 'top' to be uplifted to? I don't think its as much about getting so high that one ends up on the roof of said house . I think it was more of a general stab at gay liberation and acceptance. Think about all the boundaries the rave scene and house music broke down in regards to this. Or maybe that was the drugs... Either way, to think those very happy men that sang the vocals on these tracks and the DJ's/producers that looped them endlessly paved the way for gay marriage acts across the country and Obama's government employees benefits memo!
Then again, it may be a cheap promotion gimmick for the genre that came 1st and saw lots of competition develop out of everywhere rather quickly. Maybe house was trying to stay on top with its cut of club loot, and since its encouraged to use vocals, focused on retaining market share in the growing electronic dance music community.
But house is a feeling... Jack said so when he built it for us to come together to feel PLURR and all- and who can argue with Jack?
Yo, Bro Dan, have you ever heard of the Funky Tekno Tribe? They were/are house DJ's (like DJ Dan, Donald Glaude, Barry Weaver, DJ Sneak etc) based outta San Fran and they don't spin "techno" -
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Tue, June 30, 2009 - 4:57 PMTons of house DJs in SF. Great ones too.
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Fri, July 17, 2009 - 4:25 PMhow about the tracks that mention the day of the week?
"Tell me on sunday cos i cant stop right now..." etc
as if house music should only be played on a certain day
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