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Re: which tobacco is used for spiritual purposes
Thu, September 20, 2007 - 7:11 PMall tobacco's
mapacho or N. rustica is my all time favourite though.
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Re: which tobacco is used for spiritual purposes
Thu, September 20, 2007 - 7:35 PMMy favorite is Parliament Super-Slim Menthol Lights.
Well, not really. Mapacho works really well for me. Super strong though and not for beginners except in small quantities unless you like getting dizzy and puking. Next to that I'd go for Am.Spirit Organic. -
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Unsu...
Re: which tobacco is used for spiritual purposes
Fri, September 21, 2007 - 12:23 AMyeah mapahco is good and strong, wild jungle tobacco...
but the first time i everr did healing work with tobacco it was with a camel... and it was verry powerfull...
ive also been with many people when after workign with mapacho ( which has a verry destinct smell) that any of my cigaretts smelled like mapacho and spirit would come through when ever i smoked... like water to wine...
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Re: which tobacco is used for spiritual purposes
Fri, September 21, 2007 - 2:07 PMFor offering to spirits as food, any Tobacco will do, including commercial Tobacco. The additives, pesticides, etc., seem to have no effect. Also, the various wild Nicotianas (many of which are rare, even endangered) can be used (if they can be obtained).
For human ingestion for shamanic purposes, Nicotiana rustica (of which Mapacho is a variety, but not the only variety -- Hopi Tobacco, Huichol Tobacco, etc., are also rusticas) is much more effective than Nicotiana tabacum.
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Re: which tobacco is used for spiritual purposes
Fri, September 21, 2007 - 2:31 PMBryan-
You've gotten plenty of good replies so far.
I have been working with both N. rustica and N. tabacum (additive free). My main work with Tobacco these days is by way of Singado, which has been discussed here at some length. If I want to smoke, as an offering to the spirits or during healing work, I'll either add a bit of Mapacho to one of my pipes or, depending on the situation, I'll smoke a cigarette.
I've smoked American Spirits and, for some reason, they give me a raging headache. I recently found Nat Sherman cigarettes, and have come to appreciate their "Naturals". I believe all of their varieties are made only with additive free Tobacco. They also tend to burn longer (due to being additive free and more densely packed), so they're nice for offerings/prayers/etc.
I keep a pack of Nat Shermans with me. Sometimes it may be awkward to pull out a pipe and smoke it, particularly in public. Smoking a cigarette draws much less attention in those cases.
You can find more information on Singado here. Gayle and VS offered some great words that helped me on this road, and I'm grateful to both, as well as to the spirit of Tobacco.
Take some time to read, research, understand the gifts and risks and move forward with care.
Love,
Veg
p.s. Richard, the "Parliament " comment made me laugh out loud. -
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Re: which tobacco is used for spiritual purposes
Fri, September 21, 2007 - 3:24 PMi've only had access to rubbish rolly tobacco for a while now, but i find it doesn't really matter. it's good to leave in places where i take other things, as payment. but then i chew it all the time now too, which i guess can't be good in the long run. spend too long looking around like a hawk and you get a sore neck. -
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Re: which tobacco is used for spiritual purposes
Fri, September 21, 2007 - 6:46 PMkuntharra i wish we had some organic tobacco you could buy here in australia it really frustrates me, i am on the look out for american spirit though as i hear it is around the place.
as soon asi find it bro i will be sending some to you. -
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Re: which tobacco is used for spiritual purposes
Fri, September 21, 2007 - 10:49 PMjust start growing it in mass...
ive been looking into bioregional currencies... tabcco would make a good one... for trade and barter...
coarse in the usa if you did that you would have the ATF on your ass lol...
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Re: which tobacco is used for spiritual purposes
Sat, September 22, 2007 - 12:00 AMthats why ya braid it here, hehe. its then incense. -
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Re: which tobacco is used for spiritual purposes
Sat, September 22, 2007 - 3:08 AMsame here man some government agencie law enforcer would jump pretty hard on you here if you did that.
but its a great idea.
actually have quite a few seedlings for this season. -
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Re: which tobacco is used for spiritual purposes
Sat, September 22, 2007 - 8:24 AMSpeaking of which, I'd love to grow some rustica. Does anyone know if it'll grow in pots? Where to get seeds? -
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Re: which tobacco is used for spiritual purposes
Sat, September 22, 2007 - 10:10 AMIt will grow in pots, but you should have one plant per pot. I beleive i still have some seed, pm me if intrested. -
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This is the maximum depth. Additional responses will not be threaded.Unsu...
Re: which tobacco is used for spiritual purposes
Sat, September 22, 2007 - 10:27 AMi grow it in pots... and i havee plenty of seeds richard.. send me your addy i will send you some... they preffer to be planted in the ground though... i had a freind that just let them take over his entire green house..... wow..... they went nuts!!! -
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Unsu...
Re: which tobacco is used for spiritual purposes
Fri, September 28, 2007 - 10:39 PMMy friend gave me a rustica plant recently that was started from seed in the late spring and I guess took forever to grow. It is only about 6 inches high. Anyone ever try to grow one as an indoor plant? It will be too cold soon to put outside, any advice?
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Re: which tobacco is used for spiritual purposes
Fri, September 28, 2007 - 11:49 PMit grow difficultly indoors, so if you wanted to do it, i would suggest a small, enclosed greenhouse inside (just like 3x3), with full spectrum lights, warm tempurature, or heat mat for the roots. or, keep it in a bright and warm bathroom, make sure it gets the light it needs. -
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Unsu...
Re: which tobacco is used for spiritual purposes
Sat, September 29, 2007 - 5:16 PMbest thing IMHO... is to grow it in the spring harvest in fall and collect enough seed for next year... -
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Unsu...
Re: which tobacco is used for spiritual purposes
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 2:17 AMorganic homegrown tobacco is against the law here. only legal tobacco is the taxed and poisoned kind.
still, i'm doing really well with the pituri you sent me vs. -
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Re: which tobacco is used for spiritual purposes
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 2:21 AMahh man i should get you some more.
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