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Sacha Runa Collective offers two Month-long Shamanic Intensive Training Courses a year
(Jan/Feb and August) in the Bolivian Andes& Amazon (www.sacharuna.com).
The course is indeed Intensive and deeply transformational.
It is intended to help train those people who trully want to entrust themselves to Spirit
and dedicate themselves to Service.
No prerequisite is necessary, except the absolute determination to face oneself
and do what is needed to allow spirit to flow through us and bless creation.
The next one is August1-30.
Have to fly in and out of la Paz, Bolivia.
Application letters are due ASAP.
The next course is Jan/Feb 2009
For serious apprentices who intend to become full fledged shamans and
conduct medicine ceremonies, at least 4 courses are recommended but it
ultimately dependes on everybody's skills.
For a description of the course, please visit www.sacharuna.com
Blessings:
Miguel A. Kavlin
(Jan/Feb and August) in the Bolivian Andes& Amazon (www.sacharuna.com).
The course is indeed Intensive and deeply transformational.
It is intended to help train those people who trully want to entrust themselves to Spirit
and dedicate themselves to Service.
No prerequisite is necessary, except the absolute determination to face oneself
and do what is needed to allow spirit to flow through us and bless creation.
The next one is August1-30.
Have to fly in and out of la Paz, Bolivia.
Application letters are due ASAP.
The next course is Jan/Feb 2009
For serious apprentices who intend to become full fledged shamans and
conduct medicine ceremonies, at least 4 courses are recommended but it
ultimately dependes on everybody's skills.
For a description of the course, please visit www.sacharuna.com
Blessings:
Miguel A. Kavlin
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warning, esp for women, about this guy
Sun, July 27, 2008 - 1:22 PMcheck out this posting by Bhudevi
Re: Has anyone worked with Don Miguel Kavlin? This is a response to the original question. Miguel was recently in ceremony for 3 ceremonies in NC. He lied down with 2 women (separate ceremonies) after the ceremony, but while the women were still strongly affected by the medicine. I was one of those women, and while his affection helped to settle me down and work through a difficult time, I couldn't help but think that it felt strange. I could sense that if I was open to it the situation could turn sexual, and that was interesting to consider, since the altered state was just that, altered, and because I was with the Shaman, and that made me feel special. But if I had ventured that way, the next day would have been a mess, a nightmare, and would have changed my life in a negative way forever. I trusted the Shaman I had gotten to know over 4 intense days, and I needed him to comfort me, not to come on to me. Miguel left here and traveled to Oregon and Washington, knowing that he had stirred things up here, but went ahead and seduced a woman there while she was on the medicine. She was completely willing but I personally think that this is a strong mis-use of power, and no matter how consensual the other person is, the Shaman is supposed to hold the safe space, right? Consensual sex while on any medicine seems to be a contradiction to me, especially when it is the Shaman that is involved. As I have worked through this I am greatly saddened. I loved working with Miguel, we had 3 ceremonies together. I loved his music, and I admired him as a Shaman, and a man, until the last night when I was struggling and he suggested we lie down together, and I trusted him. Now I know from reading others information that use words like "womanizer" and "trantric shaman" that he is not the man that I thought I was working with. This will not bother some people, and others might decide not to work w/ him, I just think it is important to let people have all the information. Blessings
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Re: Shamanic intensive Training Course in Bolivian Andes & Amazon
Wed, August 6, 2008 - 9:31 AMThis post should be deleted. It has nothing to do with the purpose of this tribe. -
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Re: Shamanic intensive Training Course in Bolivian Andes & Amazon
Wed, August 6, 2008 - 11:43 AMi second that. -
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Re: Shamanic intensive Training Course in Bolivian Andes & Amazon
Wed, August 6, 2008 - 2:31 PMyes it should however the mod here does not do anything here. -
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Re: Shamanic intensive Training Course in Bolivian Andes & Amazon
Wed, August 6, 2008 - 11:54 PMone thread, of votes for someone,
send to darren,
send prayers and hope for the best. it can happen. I think either velvet or richard would be great.
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Re: Shamanic intensive Training Course in Bolivian Andes & Amazon
Wed, September 3, 2008 - 7:57 PMI agree. Make a choice Moderator. Do your J.O.B. THis is an advirtistement/ Put it in it's proper category or delete it. -
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Re: Shamanic intensive Training Course in Bolivian Andes & Amazon
Wed, September 3, 2008 - 10:27 PMit is not our job to do as directed. good day. -
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Re: Shamanic intensive Training Course in Bolivian Andes & Amazon
Tue, September 16, 2008 - 11:48 AMjob still not being done and YOU aren't the moderator anyways -
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Unsu...
Re: Shamanic intensive Training Course in Bolivian Andes & Amazon
Mon, September 22, 2008 - 7:56 PMhonestly there has never been any moderatorship here at all...
you can contact tribes and see if they will do somthing about it or perhaps appoint a new tribe...
but to be honest... i really fun way of handling post you dont like is to bury them with other posts... out of site out of mind lol...
you can do that by posting really interesting conversations or bits of information about the topic of tobacco...
tribes like this thats pretty much all you can do.
I personally think theres plenty of room on tribes for tribes like this one where there is no moderatorship...
as far as miguel and what he does... well i think he has a strong enough repuation at the moment that he will attract people that need the sort of lessons he gives... the good and the bad...
alot of the people i saw going to miguels ceremonies where swingers and into SNM and sex clubs, orgies and a lot of alternative sexuality, he seems to attract members of those communities. people who think of him as a "tantric shaman" well what he does and what people say about him might be within their particular value system as OK. people who are strict traditionalist especially with ayahausca where sex is a taboo often 3 days before and after and never during ayahausca, would think of him as probably a brujo to be honest, or at least extremely negligent.
for people who dont mind working with people who are indeed powerful shamans, but at the same time questionable when it comes to their ethic in regards to sex and power and money ( three things cults are based on by the way) and wish to learn how to work with tobacco in a shamanic way i could see people being attracted to working with miguel. he knows what hes doing when it comes to working with mapacho, i dont trust him in regards to what he does with it but thats because we have a values system conflict. but for those who share the same values i could see studying with him as being highly rewarding...
so to be honest even though i dont much care for migeul any more his post isnt out of line or off topic, mostly because many people post adds like this on tribes and mods dont mind it at all, other mods do however mind, on a tribe like this its perfectly acceptable because theres no real mod who gives a damn.
one option is to start your own private tribe dedicated to tobacco and retreat from this one, or start a public on where the mods not just trying to sell somthing... lol -
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Unsu...
Re: Shamanic intensive Training Course in Bolivian Andes & Amazon
Tue, September 23, 2008 - 7:05 AMHehe... good one llb. very diplomatic of you... -
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Unsu...
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Tue, September 23, 2008 - 3:18 PMI work in a psyche ward remember lol -
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Re: Shamanic intensive Training Course in Bolivian Andes & Amazon
Tue, September 23, 2008 - 11:19 PMvery diplomatic
you are now a lawman.:)
seriously. word and intent are powerful to the public, and you are very clear is your speaking. -
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This is the maximum depth. Additional responses will not be threaded.Unsu...
Re: Shamanic intensive Training Course in Bolivian Andes & Amazon
Tue, September 23, 2008 - 11:38 PMmaybe i should start wearing my tribal police badge again... lol...
thanks guys.
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