Hi Cory
I have been having a lot of trouble getting on line, it now aperies there is something wrong with my computer and if that isn’t enough my webmail server has been bouncing my mail and while answering some reservations on a friends computer a page of incoming mail disappeared.
It makes me a little uptight when I know that I’m losing business and much needed income.
I did receive some mail from you but lost it after I read it so I can’t refer back to it to answer all the issues raised.
Concerns.
Cement boats are hard to dock.
As with life, all things with boats are choices and compromises.
Heavy displacement boats are harder to stop then light displacement boats of equal power.
Light boats are generally faster and easer to handle in a harbour then heavy boats.
Heavy boats are more comfortable riding and easer to handle in big seas
Boats with fin keels tack or come about quicker and easer then boats with full length keels (which the schooner has).
Full length keeled boats are easer to keep on course in big seas and less likely to broach.
Any boat which has any metal such as through hull fittings, drive shaft’s, props, bolts, outside ballast etc must be grounded to each other and to a zinc to keep electrolysis from eating the metal parts. I suspect the cement boat that some one said leaked so badly had been left without zincs. All boats with through hulls and motors when left in the water with no zincs will start to leak.
The only places in the hull I have had to repair because deterioration was the cock pit deck and the top edge of the forward cabin I have had to put a layer of epoxy and fiberglass on it and the cockpit deck about 12 years ago to keep them sound. It appears the heat from the engine combined with the flexing of the deck from the mast put hair line cracks in the surface where the salt water could infiltrate, sit and cause the reinforcing rod to corrode expand and cause the cement to chip away.
Having a marine serva done is a good idea. The last serva was done maybe 10 years or more ago. I’m sure there is a copy of it in the Coast Guard folder back at the Marsh. The last time it passed Coast Guard safety inspection for her passenger caring certificate was 04.
But in the end I could take you through the boat and give you more information on what may be of concern to anybody who was planning to sail her on an long offshore voyage.
The $35000 price would be the cost of the boat in a condition capable of making a safe voyage to Caribbean and back. That is The boat will be safer then it was when we set sail from the pacific north west in 1980.
An important part of making a safe voyage is the attitude each member of the crew toward seamanship and excepting responsibilities.
Some people find
• Rules and keeping tools and equipment organized restricting to there flow in life.
• Having to keep there personal gear out of communal spaces a difficult task.
• Accepting some one as the leader or taking a leadership roll because of there skill or knowledge doesn’t fit there belief system.
• They are unable to get along with a member of the crew.
• They are not cut out for life aboard but stay because of money matters , romance or lack of other interests.
All these things endanger the boat and crew at sea and compromise the joy of the voyage when in port
Boats are a lot of work (some of it dirty and strenuous) for the amount of time spent sailing. People need to be flexible, communicative and willing to pull more then there share of the load.
Then you have a spaceship like no other.
Anyone who is serious about getting involved in this adventure would do well to read some books
• Chapmans book on seamanship.
• The 12 volt doctor.
• Something on provisioning and cooking on sea voyages.
• Sailing directions for the areas your interested in sailing.
I found the most difficult skill to master to be anchoring. Having the right anchors and gear and learning how to handle them is important and is especially so to any one who is running in waters prone to hurricanes on a small budget.
I’m willing to take time to teach people how to sail after my business chores are taken care of, if they are willing to put the labor into the making the boat ready to sail.
I will supply a cabin to live in (and help with refitting it for your use) until the boat is ready for habitation.
There will be some opportunities for sum members of your crew to earn money helping me prepare the retreat for the season and in its operation. However I will need to know who is interested and when they can start before the end of Feb.
The garden is currently under utilized and is available to any one who wants to prepare, plant and care for it. I will supply the seed, tools and information. If done right you could sail with a lot of good organic self raised food. Very one should agree to put at least one hour a day in the garden.
I still have a lot of containers for supplies and spare parts and pieces and would love to see the boat geared up for a cruse.
I will be happy to teach anyone who is interested how to sail navigate and maintain the boat as well as the use of various building tools as long as they agree to practice all the safety rules.
I’m in need some helpers who are willing and able to do a wide variety of jobs and can help me with
1. keep all our help focused on the priorities.(including me)
2. Keep track of there time and materials on the computer.
3. work shop leaders obtain what they need,
4. computer work, reservations, e-mail, letter writing, internet searches etc.
5. design and or facilitate work shops, hikes, island interest tours, kids games, pot luck dinners, dances
6. coordinate supplies and crew for boat trips and land projects, (we will be doing nature study picnics on some of the offshore islands this season)
7. Focus marketing using all methods to promote group workshops.
8. a run and fetch it person.
9. cabin cleaning
10. preparing and cook for your crew, our crew other families etc?
Some of these are things that need to be covered. Others could add to our experience, knowledge and/or finances. Some of these jobs can be done by different people at different times others I need a commitment from someone.
The important thing is if you agree to do a job then you need to follow it through. If a person finds they can’t live up to there agreement for some reason they need to communicate with me and the rest of us who are involved so we can get the job covered with as little disruption to the flow as possible.
It is probably easiest for all concerned if all those who are interested in this boat venture gathered together at the Castalia Marsh Retreat in May and lay out a game plan.
If you decide you don’t want the boat I need to know before the end of June so I can put it on the market.
With all my internet email problems and the amount of things on my todo list I have been unable to find time to connect with the tribe site and utilize its opportunities.
Let me know how you think we should proceed.
Hugs
James
I have been having a lot of trouble getting on line, it now aperies there is something wrong with my computer and if that isn’t enough my webmail server has been bouncing my mail and while answering some reservations on a friends computer a page of incoming mail disappeared.
It makes me a little uptight when I know that I’m losing business and much needed income.
I did receive some mail from you but lost it after I read it so I can’t refer back to it to answer all the issues raised.
Concerns.
Cement boats are hard to dock.
As with life, all things with boats are choices and compromises.
Heavy displacement boats are harder to stop then light displacement boats of equal power.
Light boats are generally faster and easer to handle in a harbour then heavy boats.
Heavy boats are more comfortable riding and easer to handle in big seas
Boats with fin keels tack or come about quicker and easer then boats with full length keels (which the schooner has).
Full length keeled boats are easer to keep on course in big seas and less likely to broach.
Any boat which has any metal such as through hull fittings, drive shaft’s, props, bolts, outside ballast etc must be grounded to each other and to a zinc to keep electrolysis from eating the metal parts. I suspect the cement boat that some one said leaked so badly had been left without zincs. All boats with through hulls and motors when left in the water with no zincs will start to leak.
The only places in the hull I have had to repair because deterioration was the cock pit deck and the top edge of the forward cabin I have had to put a layer of epoxy and fiberglass on it and the cockpit deck about 12 years ago to keep them sound. It appears the heat from the engine combined with the flexing of the deck from the mast put hair line cracks in the surface where the salt water could infiltrate, sit and cause the reinforcing rod to corrode expand and cause the cement to chip away.
Having a marine serva done is a good idea. The last serva was done maybe 10 years or more ago. I’m sure there is a copy of it in the Coast Guard folder back at the Marsh. The last time it passed Coast Guard safety inspection for her passenger caring certificate was 04.
But in the end I could take you through the boat and give you more information on what may be of concern to anybody who was planning to sail her on an long offshore voyage.
The $35000 price would be the cost of the boat in a condition capable of making a safe voyage to Caribbean and back. That is The boat will be safer then it was when we set sail from the pacific north west in 1980.
An important part of making a safe voyage is the attitude each member of the crew toward seamanship and excepting responsibilities.
Some people find
• Rules and keeping tools and equipment organized restricting to there flow in life.
• Having to keep there personal gear out of communal spaces a difficult task.
• Accepting some one as the leader or taking a leadership roll because of there skill or knowledge doesn’t fit there belief system.
• They are unable to get along with a member of the crew.
• They are not cut out for life aboard but stay because of money matters , romance or lack of other interests.
All these things endanger the boat and crew at sea and compromise the joy of the voyage when in port
Boats are a lot of work (some of it dirty and strenuous) for the amount of time spent sailing. People need to be flexible, communicative and willing to pull more then there share of the load.
Then you have a spaceship like no other.
Anyone who is serious about getting involved in this adventure would do well to read some books
• Chapmans book on seamanship.
• The 12 volt doctor.
• Something on provisioning and cooking on sea voyages.
• Sailing directions for the areas your interested in sailing.
I found the most difficult skill to master to be anchoring. Having the right anchors and gear and learning how to handle them is important and is especially so to any one who is running in waters prone to hurricanes on a small budget.
I’m willing to take time to teach people how to sail after my business chores are taken care of, if they are willing to put the labor into the making the boat ready to sail.
I will supply a cabin to live in (and help with refitting it for your use) until the boat is ready for habitation.
There will be some opportunities for sum members of your crew to earn money helping me prepare the retreat for the season and in its operation. However I will need to know who is interested and when they can start before the end of Feb.
The garden is currently under utilized and is available to any one who wants to prepare, plant and care for it. I will supply the seed, tools and information. If done right you could sail with a lot of good organic self raised food. Very one should agree to put at least one hour a day in the garden.
I still have a lot of containers for supplies and spare parts and pieces and would love to see the boat geared up for a cruse.
I will be happy to teach anyone who is interested how to sail navigate and maintain the boat as well as the use of various building tools as long as they agree to practice all the safety rules.
I’m in need some helpers who are willing and able to do a wide variety of jobs and can help me with
1. keep all our help focused on the priorities.(including me)
2. Keep track of there time and materials on the computer.
3. work shop leaders obtain what they need,
4. computer work, reservations, e-mail, letter writing, internet searches etc.
5. design and or facilitate work shops, hikes, island interest tours, kids games, pot luck dinners, dances
6. coordinate supplies and crew for boat trips and land projects, (we will be doing nature study picnics on some of the offshore islands this season)
7. Focus marketing using all methods to promote group workshops.
8. a run and fetch it person.
9. cabin cleaning
10. preparing and cook for your crew, our crew other families etc?
Some of these are things that need to be covered. Others could add to our experience, knowledge and/or finances. Some of these jobs can be done by different people at different times others I need a commitment from someone.
The important thing is if you agree to do a job then you need to follow it through. If a person finds they can’t live up to there agreement for some reason they need to communicate with me and the rest of us who are involved so we can get the job covered with as little disruption to the flow as possible.
It is probably easiest for all concerned if all those who are interested in this boat venture gathered together at the Castalia Marsh Retreat in May and lay out a game plan.
If you decide you don’t want the boat I need to know before the end of June so I can put it on the market.
With all my internet email problems and the amount of things on my todo list I have been unable to find time to connect with the tribe site and utilize its opportunities.
Let me know how you think we should proceed.
Hugs
James
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