cool spider stuff for denisey!

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    Thu, May 7, 2009 - 10:41 PM
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      Thu, May 7, 2009 - 11:11 PM
      wow, that second one was really scary. i hope i can get to sleep!
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        Fri, May 8, 2009 - 12:39 AM
        HEHEHE...
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          Thu, July 30, 2009 - 2:10 PM
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            Thu, July 30, 2009 - 2:16 PM
            Creepy cool, Aunt Bea! Thank you! : )
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              Thu, July 30, 2009 - 8:38 PM
              <the diving bell spider is one of a kind.>

              WOW - nice trivia !!!
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                Mon, August 3, 2009 - 10:52 PM
                this guy is an idiot! www.youtube.com/watch
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                  Tue, August 4, 2009 - 4:33 PM
                  "this guy is an idiot! www.youtube.com/watch"

                  I think it's awesome that he let it go : ). And how cool that there was another one, possibly the same kind, waiting right there for them. Maybe they were controlling his mind, like a Gordian worm, or something <g>.
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                    Re: cool spider stuff for denisey!

                    Tue, August 4, 2009 - 5:03 PM
                    the one from his garage was a wolf spider. he is an idiot for moving it from his garage. they are wonderful at keeping pests down and are very interactive with humans. you can teach them to come when you whistle if you give them grasshoppers and such. the other one in the video was not a wolf spider, may have been a large garden spider or trap door spider.
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                      Tue, August 4, 2009 - 5:12 PM
                      Oh, now you've done it...I WANT one <g>. I have grasshoppers in the back yard, ready and waiting : ).
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                        Mon, September 7, 2009 - 12:48 PM
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                          Mon, September 7, 2009 - 1:34 PM
                          She is ; )
                          Would Ziggy play with this guy?(gal?)
                          tribes.tribe.net/triviaroc...0ac4b6e85a
                          Thanks, aunt bea!
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                            Sun, September 20, 2009 - 7:45 PM
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                              Sun, September 20, 2009 - 7:59 PM
                              Thank you!
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                                Sun, September 20, 2009 - 8:11 PM
                                Nice Picies !
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                                  Thu, September 24, 2009 - 6:27 PM
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                                    Thu, September 24, 2009 - 6:41 PM
                                    Whoa!
                                    <--*gobsmacked*

                                    I have to cut and paste...

                                    A rare textile made from the silk of more than a million wild spiders goes on display today at the American Museum of Natural History in New York City.

                                    To produce this unique golden cloth, 70 people spent four years collecting golden orb spiders from telephone poles in Madagascar, while another dozen workers carefully extracted about 80 feet of silk filament from each of the arachnids. The resulting 11-foot by 4-foot textile is the only large piece of cloth made from natural spider silk existing in the world today.

                                    1-spiders“Spider silk is very elastic, and it has a tensile strength that is incredibly strong compared to steel or Kevlar,” said textile expert Simon Peers, who co-led the project. “There’s scientific research going on all over the world right now trying to replicate the tensile properties of spider silk and apply it to all sorts of areas in medicine and industry, but no one up until now has succeeded in replicating 100 percent of the properties of natural spider silk.”

                                    Peers came up with the idea of weaving spider silk after learning about the French missionary Jacob Paul Camboué, who worked with spiders in Madagascar during the 1880s and 1890s. Camboué built a small, hand-driven machine to extract silk from up to 24 spiders at once, without harming them.

                                    “Simon managed to build a replica of this 24-spider-silking machine that was used at the turn of the century,” said Nicholas Godley, who co-led the project with Peers. As an experiment, the pair collected an initial batch of about 20 spiders. “When we stuck them in the machine and started turning it, lo and behold, this beautiful gold-colored silk started coming out,” Godley said.

                                    But to make a textile of any significant size, the silk experts had to drastically scale up their project. “Fourteen thousand spiders yields about an ounce of silk,” Godley said, “and the textile weighs about 2.6 pounds. The numbers are crazy.”

                                    Researchers have long been intrigued by the unique properties of spider silk, which is stronger than steel or Kevlar but far more flexible, stretching up to 40 percent of its normal length without breaking. Unfortunately, spider silk is extremely hard to mass produce: Unlike silk worms, which are easy to raise in captivity, spiders have a habit of chomping off each other’s heads when housed together.

                                    3-weavingTo get as much silk as they needed, Godley and Peers began hiring dozens of spider handlers to collect wild arachnids and carefully harness them to the silk-extraction machine. “We had to find people who were willing to work with spiders,” Godley said, “because they bite.”

                                    By the end of the project, Godley and Peers extracted silk from more than 1 million female golden orb spiders, which are abundant throughout Madagascar and known for the rich golden color of their silk. Because the spiders only produce silk during the rainy season, workers collected all the spiders between October and June.

                                    Then an additional 12 people used hand-powered machines to extract the silk and weave it into 96-filament thread. Once the spiders had been milked, they were released into back into the wild, where Godley said it takes them about a week to regenerate their silk. “We can go back and re-silk the same spiders,” he said. “It’s like the gift that never stops giving.”

                                    Of course, spending four years to produce a single textile of spider silk isn’t very practical for scientists trying to study the properties of spider silk or companies that want to manufacture the fabric for use as a biomedical scaffold or an alternative to Kevlar armor. Several groups have tried inserting spider genes into bacteria (or even cows and goats) to produce silk, but so far, the attempts have been only moderately successful.

                                    Part of the reason it’s so hard to generate spider silk in the lab is that it starts out as a liquid protein that’s produced by a special gland in the spider’s abdomen. Using their spinnerets, spiders apply a physical force to rearrange the protein’s molecular structure and turn it into solid silk.

                                    “When we talk about a spider spinning silk, we’re talking about how the spider applies forces to produce a physical transformation from liquid to solid,” said spider silk expert Todd Blackledge of the University of Akron, who was not involved in creating the textile. “Scientists simply can’t replicate that as well as a spider does it. Every year we’re getting closer and closer to being able to mass-produce it, but we’re not there yet.”

                                    For now, it seems we’ll have to be content with one incredibly beautiful cloth, graciously provided by more than a million spiders.
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                                    AHhhh-mazing!
                                    Thank you!
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                                      Thu, September 24, 2009 - 6:44 PM
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                                        Fri, September 25, 2009 - 2:17 AM
                                        I found a blog page with great (eeek!) photos...the webs are beautiful : )
                                        ascheekyasyoucant.blogspot.com/20...tml
                                        (freaky spidey pics - fair warning!)
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                                          Fri, September 25, 2009 - 4:15 PM
                                          the golden orb spider is the kind that lisa has in her barn, isn't it?
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                                            Fri, September 25, 2009 - 5:56 PM
                                            Yes - in the same family. Big family, the orb weavers. 'Super family'
                                            I wish the ones we have here in California had golden webs!
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                                              Fri, September 25, 2009 - 6:25 PM
                                              well SOAB they tried to insert the spider gene into the goat???? Can you imagine my problems after that?
                                              Thank you AB for remembering my spider orb dilemma.. lol and now I know they BITE???!!!!! I didn't read that part.. eash!!!!!!
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                                                Fri, September 25, 2009 - 6:26 PM
                                                FOUR years of milking spiders.. wow..
                                                big wow
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                                                  Fri, September 25, 2009 - 6:58 PM
                                                  was this mentioned before?
                                                  ++++++
                                                  In the 19th century, astronomers did find a use for spider silk. They needed better cross-hairs on their telescopes. Spider silk proved to be the perfect material. By WW-II, gunsights and bombsights, range finders and transits, telescopes and microscopes were all using spider silk. Demand outran supply.

                                                  www.uh.edu/engines/epi1069.htm

                                                  and I'm sure there is a better link, I was looking something up in my "Insect World" book and found a reference for it so wanted to post it
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                                                    Fri, September 25, 2009 - 7:05 PM
                                                    Excellent trivia, Lisa! Thank you!
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                                                      Fri, September 25, 2009 - 8:58 PM
                                                      if you have a bleeding wound, you should pack it with a mixture of marigold petals and spiderwebs. the marigold is a natural antesptic and the spider web stops the bleeding. it also used to be used for bedsores. it has to be clean web though.
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                                                        Fri, September 25, 2009 - 9:21 PM
                                                        <---*can't contain the love bubble*

                                                        I love you, Aunt Bea!
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                                                          Wed, September 30, 2009 - 1:21 AM
                                                          There is some Golden Trivia here !

                                                          Must look up some more on how spiders make their threads for their webs.. it is funny how we often know so little about familiar items, objects and animals.

                                                          For me.. the trivia of the days is 'Researchers have long been intrigued by the unique properties of spider silk, which is stronger than steel or Kevlar but far more flexible, stretching up to 40 percent of its normal length without breaking. "
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                                                            Wed, September 30, 2009 - 2:03 AM
                                                            >Must look up some more on how spiders make their threads for their webs..

                                                            "Part of the reason it’s so hard to generate spider silk in the lab is that it starts out as a liquid protein that’s produced by a special gland in the spider’s abdomen. Using their spinnerets, spiders apply a physical force to rearrange the protein’s molecular structure and turn it into solid silk."

                                                            Nice:
                                                            web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2...s-tt0319.html

                                                            Whoa !
                                                            www.xs4all.nl/~ednieuw/Sp...pindraad.htm

                                                            Spider silk is an extremely strong material and is on weight basis stronger than steel. It has been suggested that a pencil thick strand of silk could stop a Boeing 747 in flight.

                                                            The silk is used by the spider for a lot of different uses. Constructing their webs, the production of egg sacs, wrapping in their prey, as a life line when jumping, or dropping to escape, for transferring semen from the abdomen to the male palp, in drag lines marked with pheromones, as a shelter in which it can retreat.

                                                            Silk is for more than 50% a polymerized protein called fibroine with a molecular weight of 200.000 - 300.000. When looking at silk at a molecular scale one can see that the proteins strands are regularly orientated.

                                                            The silk is produced by the silk glands in the form of a liquid with a molecular weight of 30.000. As one would expect protein and other organic molecules distribution differs for the various types of silk the spider produces. Before the silk is released from the spinnerets it hardens (polymerizes). At least seven types of glands have been recognized. But there is no known family with all seven types.

                                                            There is a special gland (glandula aggregata) that produces the sticky material. The other six are:

                                                            gl. Ampulleceae major and minor for the production of the walking threads.
                                                            gl. Pyriformes for the attaching threads.
                                                            gl. Aciniformes produces silk for the encapsulation of the prey.
                                                            gl. Tubiliformes for the silk of the egg-sac.
                                                            gl. Coronatae threads for the axis of the sticking threads.

                                                            1 to 4 pairs of spinnerets release the silk. The cribellar glands are only found in the cribellate spiders and this area contains small tubes ( 100 to even 50000) from which a strand is released with a smallest diameter of 0.00002 mm. The scientific name of this region is: cribellum. Depending of the type of silk that is to be made the spider mixes the fluid from the different glands and regulates the speed and volume of release.

                                                            More info and photos at link...
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                                                              Wed, September 30, 2009 - 9:12 AM
                                                              I know I've seen several science programs which stated that spider silk is something like 10 times stronger than Kevlar. Here's one source, for the source folks <g>:

                                                              www.accessexcellence.org/WN/SU...er.php

                                                              I have about 200 fraking orb weavers in my yard right now, if anyone needs to harvest some. MAN, those things creep me out. I love spiders, but these guys lay drag lines across every walkway and stairwell, which you walk through, and then the darned spider gets dragged onto you. It's annoying. And ours are HUGE! Whleah. I'm happy to let someone milk them if they'd like to.

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