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Re: cool spider stuff for denisey!
Mon, May 4, 2009 - 5:48 PM
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Mon, May 4, 2009 - 7:26 PM1) How did I get this rep?
2) What has really become of all the spiders I've ever flushed down the toilet?
3) Shudders in fear of her karmic reward.
4) VERY COOL!! Zombie 'piders!!
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Re: cool spider stuff for denisey!
Tue, May 5, 2009 - 9:22 AMyea, I didn't know you liked spiders.. sheash, leavin' me in the dark are ya? -
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Tue, May 5, 2009 - 11:22 AM<---*hands Lisa a flashlight*
There could be spiders...
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Tue, May 5, 2009 - 11:12 PM>2) What has really become of all the spiders I've ever flushed down the toilet?<
They got torn up by and by, poor little chelicerate arthropods. -
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Re: watch out bloke!
Thu, May 7, 2009 - 10:52 AMthere's one on your shoulder!!!
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Thu, May 7, 2009 - 7:28 PM<there's one on your shoulder!!! >
"They are also known as whistling or barking spiders for the hissing noise they emit when they are disturbed or aggravated at close range"
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Thu, May 7, 2009 - 7:58 PM>but have never seen one..
So...Melbs is safe, then. Whew! -
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Thu, May 7, 2009 - 8:34 PM<Melbs is safe>
Very :)
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Re: watch out bloke!
Fri, May 8, 2009 - 12:04 AM>Of course !
Thank you.
Okay, trip is still on, then. ; )
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Barking Spiders
Sat, September 26, 2009 - 11:23 AMYes, they call them "barking spiders" because they live in trees, where they hide under the leaves and bark when people go past. It's quite a racket!
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Re: Barking Spiders
Sat, September 26, 2009 - 2:52 PMi had an uncle that used to do that.
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Re: cool spider stuff for denisey!
Thu, July 30, 2009 - 6:46 PMYou an Arachnophile, too Denisey?!
:)
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Re: cool spider stuff for denisey!
Thu, July 30, 2009 - 6:58 PM>You an Arachnophile, too Denisey?!
Not really, but I've been known to allow a tarantula to climb up my arm from time to time. I don't usually start to freak until they get close to my shoulder. ; )
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Tue, August 4, 2009 - 9:39 AMSolifugids are awesome!!!!!!...that's how I feel.
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Thu, May 7, 2009 - 11:11 PMwow, that second one was really scary. i hope i can get to sleep! -
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Thu, July 30, 2009 - 2:10 PMlook at this one! www.environmentalgraffiti.com/fea...3855 -
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Thu, July 30, 2009 - 2:16 PMCreepy cool, Aunt Bea! Thank you! : ) -
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Re: cool spider stuff for denisey!
Thu, July 30, 2009 - 8:38 PM<the diving bell spider is one of a kind.>
WOW - nice trivia !!! -
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Re: cool spider stuff for denisey!
Mon, August 3, 2009 - 10:52 PMthis guy is an idiot! www.youtube.com/watch -
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Re: cool spider stuff for denisey!
Mon, August 3, 2009 - 11:00 PM*laughing*
Was that a wolf spider? looked like it to me...not sure about the second one.
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Re: cool spider stuff for denisey!
Tue, August 4, 2009 - 9:51 AMNature has it's own way of controlling the spider population:
farm3.static.flickr.com/2414/2...b_b.jpg
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Tue, August 4, 2009 - 1:38 PMAgh!!! I'd rather my yard were crawling with tarantulas (actually, they're kind of adorable <g>) than ever see a spider wasp <shudder>. Blech. -
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Re: cool spider stuff for denisey!
Tue, August 4, 2009 - 4:00 PMSpiders are one of the most successful
predators on the planet...
we would be inundated with bugs if it were'nt for them.
More spiders are eaten by birds, lizards and other spiders
than by wasps...
Sorry bloke, no specific link; just stuff I've learned over
the years by being an arachnerd....
In Asia, Spiders are considered good luck...
a philosiphy I've adopted....
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Re: cool spider stuff for denisey!
Tue, August 4, 2009 - 4:33 PM"this guy is an idiot! www.youtube.com/watch"
I think it's awesome that he let it go : ). And how cool that there was another one, possibly the same kind, waiting right there for them. Maybe they were controlling his mind, like a Gordian worm, or something <g>. -
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Re: cool spider stuff for denisey!
Tue, August 4, 2009 - 5:03 PMthe one from his garage was a wolf spider. he is an idiot for moving it from his garage. they are wonderful at keeping pests down and are very interactive with humans. you can teach them to come when you whistle if you give them grasshoppers and such. the other one in the video was not a wolf spider, may have been a large garden spider or trap door spider. -
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Re: cool spider stuff for denisey!
Tue, August 4, 2009 - 5:12 PMOh, now you've done it...I WANT one <g>. I have grasshoppers in the back yard, ready and waiting : ). -
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Mon, September 7, 2009 - 1:34 PMShe is ; )
Would Ziggy play with this guy?(gal?)
tribes.tribe.net/triviaroc...0ac4b6e85a
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Sun, September 20, 2009 - 7:45 PM -
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Sun, September 20, 2009 - 7:59 PMThank you! -
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Sun, September 20, 2009 - 8:11 PMNice Picies ! -
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Thu, September 24, 2009 - 6:27 PM -
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Thu, September 24, 2009 - 6:41 PMWhoa!
<--*gobsmacked*
I have to cut and paste...
A rare textile made from the silk of more than a million wild spiders goes on display today at the American Museum of Natural History in New York City.
To produce this unique golden cloth, 70 people spent four years collecting golden orb spiders from telephone poles in Madagascar, while another dozen workers carefully extracted about 80 feet of silk filament from each of the arachnids. The resulting 11-foot by 4-foot textile is the only large piece of cloth made from natural spider silk existing in the world today.
1-spiders“Spider silk is very elastic, and it has a tensile strength that is incredibly strong compared to steel or Kevlar,” said textile expert Simon Peers, who co-led the project. “There’s scientific research going on all over the world right now trying to replicate the tensile properties of spider silk and apply it to all sorts of areas in medicine and industry, but no one up until now has succeeded in replicating 100 percent of the properties of natural spider silk.”
Peers came up with the idea of weaving spider silk after learning about the French missionary Jacob Paul Camboué, who worked with spiders in Madagascar during the 1880s and 1890s. Camboué built a small, hand-driven machine to extract silk from up to 24 spiders at once, without harming them.
“Simon managed to build a replica of this 24-spider-silking machine that was used at the turn of the century,” said Nicholas Godley, who co-led the project with Peers. As an experiment, the pair collected an initial batch of about 20 spiders. “When we stuck them in the machine and started turning it, lo and behold, this beautiful gold-colored silk started coming out,” Godley said.
But to make a textile of any significant size, the silk experts had to drastically scale up their project. “Fourteen thousand spiders yields about an ounce of silk,” Godley said, “and the textile weighs about 2.6 pounds. The numbers are crazy.”
Researchers have long been intrigued by the unique properties of spider silk, which is stronger than steel or Kevlar but far more flexible, stretching up to 40 percent of its normal length without breaking. Unfortunately, spider silk is extremely hard to mass produce: Unlike silk worms, which are easy to raise in captivity, spiders have a habit of chomping off each other’s heads when housed together.
3-weavingTo get as much silk as they needed, Godley and Peers began hiring dozens of spider handlers to collect wild arachnids and carefully harness them to the silk-extraction machine. “We had to find people who were willing to work with spiders,” Godley said, “because they bite.”
By the end of the project, Godley and Peers extracted silk from more than 1 million female golden orb spiders, which are abundant throughout Madagascar and known for the rich golden color of their silk. Because the spiders only produce silk during the rainy season, workers collected all the spiders between October and June.
Then an additional 12 people used hand-powered machines to extract the silk and weave it into 96-filament thread. Once the spiders had been milked, they were released into back into the wild, where Godley said it takes them about a week to regenerate their silk. “We can go back and re-silk the same spiders,” he said. “It’s like the gift that never stops giving.”
Of course, spending four years to produce a single textile of spider silk isn’t very practical for scientists trying to study the properties of spider silk or companies that want to manufacture the fabric for use as a biomedical scaffold or an alternative to Kevlar armor. Several groups have tried inserting spider genes into bacteria (or even cows and goats) to produce silk, but so far, the attempts have been only moderately successful.
Part of the reason it’s so hard to generate spider silk in the lab is that it starts out as a liquid protein that’s produced by a special gland in the spider’s abdomen. Using their spinnerets, spiders apply a physical force to rearrange the protein’s molecular structure and turn it into solid silk.
“When we talk about a spider spinning silk, we’re talking about how the spider applies forces to produce a physical transformation from liquid to solid,” said spider silk expert Todd Blackledge of the University of Akron, who was not involved in creating the textile. “Scientists simply can’t replicate that as well as a spider does it. Every year we’re getting closer and closer to being able to mass-produce it, but we’re not there yet.”
For now, it seems we’ll have to be content with one incredibly beautiful cloth, graciously provided by more than a million spiders.
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AHhhh-mazing!
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Fri, September 25, 2009 - 2:17 AMI found a blog page with great (eeek!) photos...the webs are beautiful : )
ascheekyasyoucant.blogspot.com/20...tml
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Re: cool spider stuff for denisey!
Fri, September 25, 2009 - 4:15 PMthe golden orb spider is the kind that lisa has in her barn, isn't it? -
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Re: cool spider stuff for denisey!
Fri, September 25, 2009 - 5:56 PMYes - in the same family. Big family, the orb weavers. 'Super family'
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Re: cool spider stuff for denisey!
Fri, September 25, 2009 - 6:25 PMwell SOAB they tried to insert the spider gene into the goat???? Can you imagine my problems after that?
Thank you AB for remembering my spider orb dilemma.. lol and now I know they BITE???!!!!! I didn't read that part.. eash!!!!!! -
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Re: cool spider stuff for denisey!
Fri, September 25, 2009 - 6:26 PMFOUR years of milking spiders.. wow..
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Re: cool spider stuff for denisey!
Fri, September 25, 2009 - 6:58 PMwas this mentioned before?
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In the 19th century, astronomers did find a use for spider silk. They needed better cross-hairs on their telescopes. Spider silk proved to be the perfect material. By WW-II, gunsights and bombsights, range finders and transits, telescopes and microscopes were all using spider silk. Demand outran supply.
www.uh.edu/engines/epi1069.htm
and I'm sure there is a better link, I was looking something up in my "Insect World" book and found a reference for it so wanted to post it -
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Re: cool spider stuff for denisey!
Fri, September 25, 2009 - 7:05 PMExcellent trivia, Lisa! Thank you! -
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Re: cool spider stuff for denisey!
Fri, September 25, 2009 - 8:58 PMif you have a bleeding wound, you should pack it with a mixture of marigold petals and spiderwebs. the marigold is a natural antesptic and the spider web stops the bleeding. it also used to be used for bedsores. it has to be clean web though. -
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Re: cool spider stuff for denisey!
Fri, September 25, 2009 - 9:21 PM<---*can't contain the love bubble*
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Re: cool spider stuff for denisey!
Wed, September 30, 2009 - 1:21 AMThere is some Golden Trivia here !
Must look up some more on how spiders make their threads for their webs.. it is funny how we often know so little about familiar items, objects and animals.
For me.. the trivia of the days is 'Researchers have long been intrigued by the unique properties of spider silk, which is stronger than steel or Kevlar but far more flexible, stretching up to 40 percent of its normal length without breaking. " -
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Re: cool spider stuff for denisey!
Wed, September 30, 2009 - 2:03 AM>Must look up some more on how spiders make their threads for their webs..
"Part of the reason it’s so hard to generate spider silk in the lab is that it starts out as a liquid protein that’s produced by a special gland in the spider’s abdomen. Using their spinnerets, spiders apply a physical force to rearrange the protein’s molecular structure and turn it into solid silk."
Nice:
web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2...s-tt0319.html
Whoa !
www.xs4all.nl/~ednieuw/Sp...pindraad.htm
Spider silk is an extremely strong material and is on weight basis stronger than steel. It has been suggested that a pencil thick strand of silk could stop a Boeing 747 in flight.
The silk is used by the spider for a lot of different uses. Constructing their webs, the production of egg sacs, wrapping in their prey, as a life line when jumping, or dropping to escape, for transferring semen from the abdomen to the male palp, in drag lines marked with pheromones, as a shelter in which it can retreat.
Silk is for more than 50% a polymerized protein called fibroine with a molecular weight of 200.000 - 300.000. When looking at silk at a molecular scale one can see that the proteins strands are regularly orientated.
The silk is produced by the silk glands in the form of a liquid with a molecular weight of 30.000. As one would expect protein and other organic molecules distribution differs for the various types of silk the spider produces. Before the silk is released from the spinnerets it hardens (polymerizes). At least seven types of glands have been recognized. But there is no known family with all seven types.
There is a special gland (glandula aggregata) that produces the sticky material. The other six are:
gl. Ampulleceae major and minor for the production of the walking threads.
gl. Pyriformes for the attaching threads.
gl. Aciniformes produces silk for the encapsulation of the prey.
gl. Tubiliformes for the silk of the egg-sac.
gl. Coronatae threads for the axis of the sticking threads.
1 to 4 pairs of spinnerets release the silk. The cribellar glands are only found in the cribellate spiders and this area contains small tubes ( 100 to even 50000) from which a strand is released with a smallest diameter of 0.00002 mm. The scientific name of this region is: cribellum. Depending of the type of silk that is to be made the spider mixes the fluid from the different glands and regulates the speed and volume of release.
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Re: cool spider stuff for denisey!
Wed, September 30, 2009 - 9:12 AMI know I've seen several science programs which stated that spider silk is something like 10 times stronger than Kevlar. Here's one source, for the source folks <g>:
www.accessexcellence.org/WN/SU...er.php
I have about 200 fraking orb weavers in my yard right now, if anyone needs to harvest some. MAN, those things creep me out. I love spiders, but these guys lay drag lines across every walkway and stairwell, which you walk through, and then the darned spider gets dragged onto you. It's annoying. And ours are HUGE! Whleah. I'm happy to let someone milk them if they'd like to. -
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Re: cool spider stuff for denisey!
Sun, October 4, 2009 - 5:59 PMOh - thanks for those !
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Re: cool spider stuff for denisey!
Mon, October 12, 2009 - 8:15 PM>>>The silk is used by the spider for a lot of different uses. Constructing their webs, the production of egg sacs, wrapping in their prey, as a life line when jumping, or dropping to escape, for transferring semen from the abdomen to the male palp, in drag lines marked with pheromones, as a shelter in which it can retreat.<<<
Ahem. You neglect to mention that newhatched spiderlings ride the wind to new territories on a thread of silk, ballooning along on the breeze. I think that's especially nifty.
With love under will.
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Re: cool spider stuff for denisey!
Mon, October 12, 2009 - 8:19 PMThat is especially nifty! I agree : ) -
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Re: cool spider stuff for denisey!
Tue, November 10, 2009 - 9:48 AMOooooo - looks like I beat Aunt Bea to the punch with this one
Kind of a Reader Digest version of this thread:
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Re: cool spider stuff for denisey!
Tue, November 10, 2009 - 10:32 AMeeep!
Thanks, Nic ! I think they've been reading this thread!
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Tue, November 10, 2009 - 3:25 PMNic - that was a great link !
Thanks !!!!!
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Wed, September 30, 2009 - 8:27 AMThere was once one of those huge "bird-eating" spiders in our shop once. Our reptile expert was keeping it for a friend in the back room and it somehow managed to escape before the friend could come pick it up. Our reptile expert also had quite a sense of humor and would place the shed exoskeletons of other tarantulas here and there around the shop to scare people. Well, we all got used to seeing giant tarantulas here and there. Our small animal specialist at the time was afraid of bugs, but she had also pretty much gotten used to seeing the exoskeletons so she didn't think much when she saw one sitting on a bag of cat food when she was talking to a customer. Until she moved closer to it...and it reared up and hissed at her.
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Re: cool spider stuff for denisey!
Wed, September 30, 2009 - 12:23 PM>and it reared up and hissed at her.
That would most likely freak me out, too...
Grrr - the orb weaver population in our area started booming about 4 years ago. They were (suddenly) everywhere. I didn't know what they were, so I called the entomology dept at Cal Berkeley and they helped me ID the beasties. The guy I dealt with said that the mild winter had helped the population increase. We've had a few more mild winters since then, so..."hello 'piders" : ) -
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Re: cool spider stuff for denisey!
Thu, October 1, 2009 - 5:07 PMI think I am destined to always have a spider living in my driver's side mirror for the rest of my driving life. It started with my last car, well over 10 years ago and the pattern has continued with my new car. I always have webbing all around the mirror. I clear off the webs every time the car gets cleaned and they're back within a couple days. I never actually see a spider (thank goodness) just a tangle of web.
Funny thing was that when the garden spider decided to hang out on my car for a few days, there was no fresh webbing around the side mirror except one that the garden spider made just before I evicted her, but a few days after her eviction, the tangle of webbing is back. I know it's not the garden spider, because her spinning patterns are completely different and the silk itself is thicker than the spider I've never seen. -
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Thu, October 1, 2009 - 6:01 PMBoy, I hear ya on this. Same thing with my husband's car. We've even flushed the housing for the mirror with a hose...webs are back within a day or two... -
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Thu, October 1, 2009 - 6:18 PMI don't mind...just as long as they stay outside my car. -
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Thu, October 1, 2009 - 6:21 PMAgreed : ) -
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Re: DON'T CLICK IF YOU ARE SQUEEMISH OR AFRAID OF SPIDERS
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Tue, October 6, 2009 - 3:31 PMGreat stuff! Very cool photos. I especially enjoyed the very last one ; )
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Tue, October 6, 2009 - 8:24 PMThe last one was a good'un...
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Re: Veggie spider
Sun, October 11, 2009 - 3:55 AMThe worlds first veggie spider discovered www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...9475.ece -
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Sun, October 11, 2009 - 2:38 PMFascinating! And kinda cute : )
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Sun, October 11, 2009 - 3:46 PMHaha! Great name. Bagheera kiplingi. Should be from India vs. South America.
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Sun, October 11, 2009 - 10:54 PM'Bagheera kiplingi, a South American species, lives almost exclusively on leaf buds and is thought to be the only spider of about 40,000 species to have rejected a carnivorous diet. "
There is always one in 40,000 :)
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Tue, October 13, 2009 - 6:29 AMYou have read 'The Jungle Book', haven't you? I don't think I'll ever forget the name of this spider <lol>. -
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Wed, October 14, 2009 - 8:59 AM<<Should be from India vs. South America. >>
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Even-More-Gigantic Giant Orb Spider Discovered
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Wed, October 21, 2009 - 10:33 PMdag nabbit, i was just on my way over here to post this!!!
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Wed, October 21, 2009 - 10:45 PM<---*faints*
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Re: Even-More-Gigantic Giant Orb Spider Discovered
Sun, November 1, 2009 - 6:52 PMwww.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...dest.html
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Re: Even-More-Gigantic Giant Orb Spider Discovered
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Re: Even-More-Gigantic Giant Orb Spider Discovered
Sun, November 1, 2009 - 10:08 PMAmazing !
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Thu, November 5, 2009 - 1:36 PMunkle fuzzy already said no.
tribes.tribe.net/triviaroc...1aa721a774
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Thu, November 5, 2009 - 2:19 PMOMG it's tiny! And beautiful! Wow! Wow wow wow!
(I bet you could slip a few into the house without his knowing! They're so wee!)
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Thu, November 5, 2009 - 3:47 PM!Some more georgeous! thewondrous.com/2009/10/30...icz-part-i/
For those who want to keep wind blown spiders moving on install family wind turbines
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Thu, November 5, 2009 - 4:41 PM.......and these, first one is the happiest looking spider ever ! zuzutop.com/2009/07/cute...ping-spiders/
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Thu, November 5, 2009 - 6:10 PMZowie! Thank you, gentlemen!
Bewith - that first link...ate my eyeballs, it did! Stunning photography. Stun-ning. Check that one out, people!
si - the first photo on your link - adorable! I'm tempted to use it as an avatar! Also some fine photography there!
Ta!
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Fri, November 6, 2009 - 4:04 AMHeee! It's an Aussie Bloke!
www.xs4all.nl/~ednieuw/au...s_volans.htm
The spider can be found in Queensland and New South Wales.
The name of the peacock spider was changed a few times. From Attus volans to Saitis volans and recently to Maratus volans.
Like many other Australian common spiders the genus name was given by European arachnologists more than a century ago. After detailed studying many Australian spiders are found not to be related to European spiders and will undergo name changes.
Maratus volans has a few common names: flying spider, gliding spider and the preferred name peacock spider.
Although volans in its name suggest the spider can fly, it actually does not use its flaps to extend the distance of its jump. He uses the abdominal flaps only for courtship and displays them like a peacock.
eeeep!
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