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Why are people from Tennessee

2008-07-07T15:58:23Z

so quiet???? Let's get rowdy.

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Anyone have a dual standard VCR [NTSC / PAL]??

2007-11-27T06:27:19Z

Know this is a long shot these days but does anyone here have or have access to a dual standard VHS VCR? I have a VHS tape [home video] recorded in England so it's in the European standard PAL format, and need to convert it to US standard NTSC format so it can be viewed.

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NCEF! Media sabotaged! Hijacked by lone wingnut! Accused of fraud and embezzlement!

2007-11-07T04:13:18Z

NCEF! Media in Humboldt County, Ca. is accused of fraud and donation embezzlement. Caution! Do not support this lone wingnut's scam! Other legitamate groups exist in the area. Caution! Do not be fooled by NCEF! Media and his fraudulent outreach. Shunka Wakan exists completely seperate from any active affinity group. Read about how he perpetuated a lawsuit under the guise of EF! against a legitamate environmental nonprofit:

Dog Days
From: http://northcoastjournal.com/100407/cover1004.html
October 4, 2007
Money On Trees

Big cash nearly fell into Shunka Wakan's lap. Other Earth First!ers are kinda happy it didn't.

by Heidi Walters

As the jury trial for the civil suit Kathryn Miller v. the Trees Foundation puttered to a start last week inside Courtroom 3 at the Humboldt County Courthouse, Shunka Wakan — a key witness for the plaintiff — spent mornings sitting on the hard wooden benches in the long hallway outside the courtroom. During breaks, Miller's attorney Linda Mitlyng, would come out of the courtroom to join him. But otherwise, as other people and their legal affairs swirled around him in a warm, odiferous bath of humanity, Shunka sat alone. Or, sometimes, he stood alone, straight-spined, his small, stocky body swallowed by the huge, stiff blue suit out of which his newly shorn, razor-scraped bald head poked vulnerably — as if, at any moment, the suit could gulp once more and he'd disappear completely. Always, he clutched a paper folder with a wolf's face on its cover.

The North Coast Earth First! Media guru had shaved off his woolly rust-tinged brown hair and beard the night before jury selection started, after discussing it with attorney Mitlyng. Now, it took an uncertain moment to recognize him. Then, of course: Shunka's light blue eyes in the pink-pale face, Shunka's closed-lip smile, Shunka's trademark husky murmur, "Mm-hmm, for sure," in response to a comment.

In Courtroom 3, the amiable but no-nonsense Judge Christopher Wilson's domain, the fate of a $185,000 donation dangled. Would the plaintiff, donor Kathryn Miller, prevail in her claim that the defendant, the Trees Foundation, was not in fact the intended recipient of her generous gift? That Shunka Wakan's NCEF! Media Center and the treesitters were? Or would the Trees Foundation convince the jury that, in fact, the money was intended all along for Trees, with no instructions attached for funneling it elsewhere?

Richard Idell, left, who is defending the Trees Foundation against a lawsuit filed by Kathryn Miller, confers with Doug Wallace, community support coordinator for Trees. Photo by David Lawlor.

In her opening arguments, Miller's attorney, Mitlyng, said the case came down to "fraud and broken promises." "She believed [Trees] would hold [the money] in trust, for the benefit of North Coast Earth First!" said Mitlyng. The defense's attorney, Richard Idell, countered in his opening argument that the donation was an unconditional gift and Miller never wrote letters of instruction — as Miller claims she did. "Ms. Miller ... didn't do anything. She took the check [from her mother's estate] and flipped it over and wrote on the back, 'Payable to the Trees Foundation,'" said Idell.

Miller's claim sought the return of her $185,000, plus interest.

Out in the hallway, Shunka waited to tell his side of the story. Maybe he thought about the magical donation that never materialized, and now probably never would. Maybe he thought about the other times he'd been in this courthouse — dozens of times, along with other activists, often before Judge Wilson, answering to charges of trespassing and other forms of civil disobedience in the woods. Likely, he wondered when they were finally going to call him in to testify — it was taking forever in there. He'd even sent out an e-mail prematurely to the several hundred subscribers to his NCEF! online group erroneously announcing he would be first up to testify.

By the end of Friday's court session, Miller was still on the stand. Perhaps Monday it would be Shunka's turn. Whenever it was, he would be testifying on Miller's behalf; but he wasn't a party to the lawsuit. And in the end, after hearing all of the evidence, the jury would be determining who was telling the truth about intentions and letters of instructions. Shunka was just there to provide context and evidence in a contract dispute.

But to a number of forest activists, including a half dozen or so who appeared in the audience last Friday to watch the trial unfold, that context matters more to them than the legal questions. They say this lawsuit has placed a strain on the environmental community that could do as much damage as an ill-felled redwood that takes down other giants in its descent. They disapprove of the lawsuit, and they blame Shunka for it. And, they say, it's just another example of how Shunka has commandeered the North Coast Earth First! identity and used it for purposes that nobody else in the amorphous but consensus-driven local Earth First! movement has agreed to.

"For a lot of us, when we read about the lawsuit, this is kind of like Shunka on trial," said long-time forest activist Deane Rimerman last Friday, calling from Olympia, Wash. "And, to what extent is he worthy of that money?"

Kathryn Miller wanted her money to go toward saving trees, she said on the witness stand last Thursday. The slender 59-year-old was dressed in a pink print skirt and white sweater, with her gray-streaked dark hair pulled back into a neat, thin braid tinted slightly green. (Little did the jury know that Miller had spent the night in jail, in blue jail duds, and then had been "dressed out," in court lingo, in her street clothes before being escorted into the court by the bailiff. Miller had been arrested the week before, on Sept. 17, when she arrived in civil court for the pre-trial readiness hearing; according to the misdemeanor criminal charges filed against her, Miller allegedly had made annoying phonecalls to Barbara Ristow of the Trees Foundation all hours of the day and night.)

On the stand, Miller described how she became an activist. She remembered how, when she was a child in Orinda, her mother decided to stop spraying the beautiful oak trees on their property after reading Rachel Carson's Silent Spring. "And then, when my son was 9, we were watching the news on TV about the Chernobyl nuclear power plant meltdown. And my son said to me, 'I wish I'd never been born. I don't think I'll get to live a full life.'"

She protested the building of the Diablo Canyon Nuclear Power Plant. She started a peace action group in the late 1980s in San Jose. She did nonviolent protests at the Nevada Test Site. And in 1990, she came up with some of her fellow protestors to help set up the camp for Redwood Summer, and to take part in demonstrations. She's been on and off involved in Earth First! actions in Humboldt ever since, she said, including huffing in supplies for treesitters and huffing out their garbage. She'd also, at one point, bought a condo in Arcata.

In 2004, Miller sold her condo and bought an acre of farmland, already planted with coffee, in Guatemala. She put in fruit trees to shade the coffee. That same year, her mother, who lived in Sonoma, died. "The last time I saw her was in 2003," said Miller. "She told me when she died, she was going to leave me some money. I told her I'd use it to further my work for the forest. And she was pleased, because she loved the treesitters and the forest."

Shortly after learning of her mother's death, Kathryn Miller sought out Shunka Wakan in front of the food co-op in Arcata, where he "tabled" to raise funds for the North Coast Earth First! Media office — selling T-shirts, and stickers, offering pamphlets, accepting donations. She'd known Shunka for about five years, she said.

"I said to him, I was going to inherit some money: What was the best way to get that to the North Coast Earth First!?"

In the spring of 2005, Shunka Wakan was floating above the treetops. "I was so excited," the 32-year-old said in an interview a few weeks ago, sitting inside his tiny but colorful North Coast Earth First! Media office in Arcata, walls covered in art and topo maps — including one of Buckeye Mountain, where in 2000-2001, during the "Mattole Free State" action, Shunka and others hiked 14 miles through waist-high snowdrifts to save trees.

Kathryn Miller, he recalled, had come up to him excitedly as he walked along the sidewalk outside the Arcata Co-op and said, "I just donated $185,000 to North Coast Earth First!'"

She'd talked to him the year before about making the donation — she'd said she was anticipating an inheritance from her mother's estate, and she wanted to make a big donation to his group. He'd told her to make it through the Trees Foundation, which handled the NCEF! Media office's finances through an arrangement that had been established years ago. (The Trees Foundation is an umbrella organization formed in 1991 to assist smaller environmental groups. As a 501(c)3 nonprofit, it can accept large, tax-deductible donations on behalf of affiliates, and provide professional resources. And it can lead large campaigns, like the one to save the Headwaters Forest back in the '90s.)

Well, now she'd finally done it.

Miller and Shunka agreed to meet at Fiesta Café in Sunny Brae, so she could tell him how she wanted the money spent: She wanted, straight away, for someone to organize a mediated workshop for the local Earth First! activists on ageism and sexism, issues she thought were fracturing the movement. And, she wanted the bulk of the donation to help support the forest activists who blockade logging roads and hunker up in ancient redwoods to fend off loggers' saws.

Not long after, Shunka was on his way to have lunch with some folks from the Trees Foundation, where they'd talk about Miller's wishes.

"Our media outreach was going to get a big boost," Shunka said. "The donation would keep the EF! office going for many years. So I walked into the Wildflower Café feeling elated, thinking we got all this money."

Barbara Ristow and Doug Wallace of the Trees Foundation were there. "I was super excited," Shunka said, "and I said, 'This is great, this big donation. Isn't it wonderful?' We ordered food, and still I'm all excited, talking about the money, but I notice they're looking nervously at each other. [Finally], they said, 'Well, we're just shocked that you think this money was for you.' And I was like, 'I just met with the donor, and that's what she said.' And they're like, 'Well, let's go ahead and plan the workshop and deal with that later.' I remember that, because it put me at ease."

After that, Shunka said he gave Trees a list of people he thought might benefit from the mediator-run workshop. "Some were people I knew had beefs with me, but I was willing to bring 'em into the circle and talk about it."

According to some vague accounts, the workshop was a disaster. One person who was there claims that Shunka, at one point, pounded his fists on the floor, blustered, then got up and stormed out, yelling as he walked away. Shunka says that's overblown.

"The letter from Kathryn Miller to Barbara Bristow said she wanted the mediation to be a safe place, safe to be emotional," he said. "And I think people are saying 'I freaked out.' The freak-out reports are exaggerated. It's just part of this ongoing character assassination. People say I was 'red-faced.' But my face is naturally red."

In late 2005, while Shunka was in Seattle, a friend called him from Arcata to say a woman had come by asking for the office key. She had a list of equipment she wanted to take away. The friend didn't give her the key.

When Shunka got back from Seattle, he discovered his reimbursement funds from Trees had been "frozen." He also learned about a letter someone in the NCEF! movement had circulated for signatures and then sent to Mark Knipper, who handled the Trees Foundation transactions for the NCEF! Media office. It said, in essence, "We don't want Shunka running EF!"

"I called the Trees Foundation," Shunka recalled. "I was sick, it was the middle of the winter, I'm trying to table, it's raining, it's cold. And Barbara Ristow told me, 'You just need to have a meeting [with the other Earth First!ers] and come to a group consensus on what the Trees Foundation funding should be used for."

The meeting never happened — nobody could agree to meet, said Mark Knipper, also in an interview last week. Knipper is a social worker and a long-time activist who had been the contact person between Trees and NCEF! Media. "So it ate itself," Knipper said. "And although I'm former Navy, a mariner, I said I'm not going down with this ship. So I divorced myself from it ... and signed it all back to Trees."

The NCEF! Media office was dropped from the Trees Foundation altogether.

Shunka and the NCEF! Media office never did see any of the big donation. Miller didn't even know that, he said, until she phoned him up in the summer of 2006, more than a year after she made the donation, to ask about a guy named "Jungle," who had been reported as missing on the NCEF! hotline. Miller was spending much of her time in Guatemala now, where she was raising fruit trees; after she'd made her big donation, Hurricane Stan had struck — she spent the ensuing year mopping up the mess.

First, Shunka told her Jungle was still missing. Then he told her about the money.

"I said, 'Yeah, they told me it wasn't for us,'" said Shunka. "And she said, 'I meant for all of it to go to you guys.' She sounded real upset. And I was like, 'I knew it! I knew it!'"

Shunka tried to sue Trees in small claims court, but it went nowhere.

Miller filed a claim against the Trees Foundation on Oct. 5, 2006, in Humboldt County Superior Court, seeking the return of the $185,000 plus interest so she could distribute the money herself.

And if she wins? "She may just spread it out more," said Shunka. "She's got tree planting ideas. Maybe she could buy a grove. She'd maybe not give it all to Earth First! this time. It was a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity that Trees blew for us."

On an uncomfortably hot afternoon last week, four forest activists who'd agreed to an interview for this story — Jeff, Shaggy, Sparrow and Farmer — sat on the ground at the Arcata Marsh next to a log bench on which a teeming crew of red ants worked a splintered notch. Someone had come along here in 1999 and carved a grouping of faces — bearded, grimacing, possibly mourning faces — onto the log and signed it Daniel. The carving had been drenched in red paint, and burnished by years of sitters.

"It kind of reminds me of the memorial for Gypsy," said one of them. "With the red paint."

Gypsy was the forest name of David Nathan Chain, who in September 1998, during an Earth First! action at Grizzly Creek, was crushed to death by a tree felled by an enraged logger. Farmer, actually, was there — he was just 16, but had a year of activism already under his belt. And Shunka was there — it was Shunka's first forest action.

Farmer, Shag, Sparrow and Jeff first made it clear that they spoke for themselves alone, although they participate in various forest defense affinity groups: Farmer works for the Mattole Wildlands Defense Group now, watchdogging the California Department of Forestry for new timber harvest plans, and keeping an eye on a Pacific Lumber Co. watershed analysis. Shag, who saw his first redwood about five years ago, helps keep the Fern Gully treesit village in Freshwater functioning. Jeff, who grew up in the high desert, and fell in love with the woods, works with the Nanning Creek treesit just outside of Scotia, as well as other groups. Sparrow, who was drawn to forest action because the cultural landscape was "like a folktale" he couldn't resist, is with the Fern Gully affinity group. These groups are all part of the Humboldt Forest Defense Association, a collective with a website but no formal structure.

The HFDA sprang into being six years ago — about the time the entity called North Coast Earth First! had essentially dissolved. It would take a book to describe that drawn-out dissolution — a book of lost causes, won causes, waning media interest, Judi Bari's death, Gypsy's death, ego-spurred squabbles, interpersonal catastrophes, a war overseas, hurricanes. And while the HFDA activists might still cherish the Earth First! name — the movement — in their hearts, it's now been further complicated by what you might call the Shunka effect.

"I still feel in many ways solidarity with the greater Earth First! movement abroad," said Farmer. "But in this county, in this climate, if you say you're with the North Coast Earth First!, many people associate you with North Coast Earth First! Media."

Shunka revived the North Coast Earth First! office around 2002. And he did what previous office managers had done — tabled, put out news releases, wrote articles for other publications. But it wasn't like the old days, in the '90s, when hundreds of people were getting arrested in forest actions and the jail support phone and legal resources were in constant use.

Shunka first worked in an office in Eureka, then later moved to Arcata. He called his outfit the NCEF! Media Center. For a time, he and other "affinity groups" tried to work together. But he alienated some people. He took over the North Coast Earth First! website. He controlled the North Coast Earth First! email list of 300 or more subscribers to the news alerts. He sent out press releases on his own.

"I felt the North Coast Earth First! Media Center was a unilateral effort on Shunka's part," said Farmer. Whereas, in the old days, "spokespeople were decided on by the group. And if you wrote an article it was passed by everyone. I feel Shunka appointed himself spokesperson at some point."

Many also claim they've been subject to a lashing anger from Shunka.

"I won't work with him because I pledge nonviolence in my actions," said Shag. "I don't believe he pledges the same thing. He has exhibited violent behavior towards me and towards other activists in my presence."

"He's a bear," said Jeff, making claw-fists with his hands.

But the sad thing is, all of this infighting probably has done nothing to help the actual trees. And the mediation workshop Kathryn Miller wanted didn't fix matters. Now, there was her lawsuit.

"When I heard about this lawsuit, I thought, the Trees Foundation does not deserve to be attacked in that way," said Farmer. "There's much bigger issues that need to be dealt with — with Maxxam and old-growth logging. ...If you look at Fern Gully and Nanning Creek (the Bonanza timber harvest plan), there's hundreds of old growth acres still standing whose fate is unclear."

Shag put it more bluntly: "If [Miller] knew Shunka and wanted to get the money to North Coast Earth First! Media, she should've given it to Shunka. But if she was trying to get it to treesits and forest defense, then the money went to the right place.

"My problem is this whole representation thing. There's people in the trees — how do you know who to get the money to, to help them?"

Shunka knows that a lot of fellow activists aren't happy with his role in the donation dispute. He also knows how some people talk about him and say he's hard to get along with. "I'm just standing up for the truth," he said. "And people don't like it. To me, it feels like a small clique of people who don't like me. I feel a lot of love and support in this community."

He certainly doesn't come off right away as someone who's angry, or who lashes out, or who locks the office and doesn't let people in. Why, recently, he helped a young woman hook up with the treesitters so she could learn the ropes. (Shaggy said that's proof Shunka doesn't have direct connections with the people doing direct action; but you can't deny it's a connection.)

It's probably a bad idea to ask Darryl Cherney, one of the founders of the local Earth First! movement, what he thinks of Shunka Wakan, whose real name is Jason Wilson. (Shunka tells a story of how he was named by a Lakota medicine man on the banks of the Cheyenne River in South Dakota in 1995. "Shunka Wakan," meaning "great dog," is only part of it. There's a secret part after that — altogether, his name means "the humble man called horse.")

"Shunka's a wingnut," Cherney said over the phone last Friday, sounding cheerfully vitriolic. "I have a 10-verse song about Shunka."

Here are the last few verses:

Who's at the co-op spanging a donation
Shunka, Shunka
Who's got a lawsuit 'gainst the Trees Foundation
Shunka, Shunka
Shunka, Shunka
Who's gonna keep on fighting the fight
Shunka, Shunka
With four of his friends at swimmers delight
Shunka, Shunka
Shunka, Shunka (Shunka voice: It's the last of the revolution)

There's no other word for it but "mean." But Cherney and Shunka have history — not all of it sour. Cherney said Shunka laughed when he heard the song, at least the first time.

"I met Shunka in 1998," Cherney said. "And I know he knew Julia ["Butterfly" Hill, whom Shunka had come west to find]. That was a good thing, helping Julia. That was good Shunka."

Cherney had even pushed for Shunka to go to Houston to talk with Charles Hurwitz, whose Maxxam Corp. bought out the old Pacific Lumber company back in 1985 and quickly became the forest activists' number one villain. Shunka went.

But now? "The current status of Shunka and me," Cherney said, "is that Shunka has sent me five or eight or nine e-mails threatening to sue me. Shunka is a joke."

Cherney can talk for hours about the problems he's had with Shunka over the years. His main point, though, is what has Shunka done for the trees lately?

"My question is, where's your topo maps?" he asked. "Where's your wilderness preservation proposal? Where's your lobbyist team in Sacramento?"

It has to be that, on some level, even the people in the movement who don't like Shunka understand somewhat where he's coming from. So he's emotional. Passionate. Perhaps he's caught up so completely in the cause he can't let go. Or, who knows — maybe he's a phony, like he accused Knipper of being back in 2005.

But being a forest activist comes with perils beyond the obvious physical ones.

"I'm really trying to have compassion for Shunka, even though he's kind of attacked us," said Susy Barsotti by phone from Laytonville a couple of weeks ago. Barsotti is president of the Trees Foundation board, and she says the lawsuit has held Trees hostage, unable to function fully. "I've been mystified and dismayed that he's participated like this in the suit. But Shunka witnessed Gypsy's death. And I think he may have post-traumatic stress syndrome. I don't think he's recovered from it. And that can affect your behavior."

A number of people mentioned this, actually, about Shunka. And he often refers to Gypsy's death himself. In an article titled "What Luna has taught me," posted on the website of Julia "Butterfly" Hill's organization, Circle of Life, Shunka writes: "I decided to commit to doing ground support after witnessing the death of David Nathan "Gypsy" Chain on September 17, 1998 ... I remember looking across the valley as we hiked up that day, seeing the rolling hills of forests and clear-cuts, and thinking out loud, "That's why we're here!" Seeing Gypsy's life taken from him, and then seeing the corruption and lies of the Humboldt County Sheriffs ... really opened my eyes to the situation our old-growth forests face."

Later, he did ground support for Hill in her second year in Luna. And in the same article on her website, something else Shunka writes indicates how ready he was to devote himself to a cause: "Being on the support team was the top priority in my life, and I was happy knowing that everything else revolved around when I'd be needed for the next supply run. I never felt lost because I knew what I was doing. That was a feeling I had not felt in years, between feeling dissatisfaction with life in college, and then more dissatisfaction with life as a minimum-wage worker after college. Before joining Julia's ground support team I was unhappy, even to the point of tears, wondering if my entire life was going to be a minimum-wage nightmare ...."

Pure devotion, without benefit of a little hypocrisy, could drive anyone batty. Deane Rimerman, the activist from Olympia who said it is Shunka who is on trial, said it's not uncommon for intense, stressful movements like Earth First! to produce an army of walking wounded. And he's been around, in forest actions up and down the coast, for long enough to know; he was the one, in fact, who "got the maps and led the first hikers up to the hill" to the Gypsy Mountain campaign and Luna treesit.

"In the forest activist movement, there's very little that's rewarding," Rimerman said. "There's a lot of post traumatic stress syndrome. All of us get it. Once you've been through the court process, and the jail process, and seen 1,000-year-old trees get cut down that you really cared about and thought you could save — it's devastating."

That alone, setting aside the troubles with Shunka, could explain the many rifts that have occurred within the local EF! ranks over the years. Josh Brown, who moved to Humboldt in 1995 right before the peak of the Headwaters campaign, said one of the unique qualities of Earth First! is that it "is primarily a youth movement."

"A lot of people that come through are young, are passionate — and it's a wonderful thing," he said. They get thrown into leadership positions quickly — and then they get burned out. Many move quickly on to other things. Brown stayed in longer than most. "When I left [in 2001], I was 30 years old. And I'd been a full-time activist since I was 18."

Paradoxically, said Brown, the youthful draw and the departure of seasoned activists leaves the movement with "no elders to kind of sit around and coach the [new kids]."

The movement also draws strong personalities, he said. Tenacious ones, too, like Shunka's.

"Shunka, I think he really does have a big heart," said Brown. "And I think he does care for the forest."

Last Friday, following the morning session of Miller v. Trees, a group of the Humboldt Forest Defense Association activists stood on the courthouse steps talking. The door opened, and Shunka walked out and down the steps toward the group. They didn't greet him. After a time, he tried to talk to one of them, Jeff. Jeff walked away. Shunka followed him, then stopped and talked to another guy. Then he stood alone again.

From: http://northcoastjournal.com/101107/news1011.html

Trees Foundation Wins

October 11th, 2007

The jury in the civil case Kathryn Miller v. the Trees Foundation decided in favor of Trees, after deliberating all day Tuesday. (See "Money on Trees," Oct. 4).

Miller is the long-time forest activist who inherited a bundle from her mother and then signed $185,000 over to the Trees Foundation. In her lawsuit, she claimed she had intended the money to be passed through Trees to one of its affiliates, North Coast Earth First! Media, run by Shunka Wakan. She claimed she had made her intentions clear, verbally and in writing, and that Trees had agreed to the conditions, then broken its promise and kept the money. Trees denied making such promises, and said it had never seen any letters or heard of instructions to give the money to NCEF! Media. (Also, somewhat relatedly, in criminal court on Tuesday Miller pleaded no contest to charges that she had made annoying phonecalls to Barbara Ristow of the Trees Foundation.)

So, that's that. Now, there are only the pieces to pick up.

For Shunka Wakan — featured in last week's Journal as a central figure in a messy nest of infighting that has fractured the current ranks of local Earth First!ians — it could be a long, lonely patching together of lost friends and broken alliances. Not only did he and Miller lose their attempt to retrieve her donation, but now he's been banned from the North Coast Co-op.

Yes, that happened last week. It was Thursday, around 4:15 in the evening, and two activists with the Humboldt Forest Defense Association were tabling — hawking brochures and such — outside the Co-op. It's an activity Shunka himself has spent many a day doing in that very same spot, raising cash to pay for his NCEF!Media outreach work and other causes. And, well, these two fellows, Jeff and Farmer, were on Shunka's shit list, now. They'd spoken gently, but unfavorably, about Shunka's doings in the North Coast Earth First! arena — said he lashed out at people, said he commandeered NCEF! resources, and so forth. Here's a snippet of Jeff's account of what happened, which he sent to the NCJ in an e-mail on Friday:

"Shunka was removed from the Arcata Co-op yesterday after a scuffle with myself and another activist around 5 p.m. Well, he wasn't exactly removed, but APD was called. He was asked to leave after threatening to flip over the HFD donation table while stating he was 'like Jesus in the marketplace ...'"

Sue Coulter, manager of the Arcata Co-op, recounted on Friday how an employee walking by heard the argument and went inside to get her. "So I went out to talk to [Shunka], because it's not the first time we've had problems," she said. "Most of the time, he's fine. Most of the time, I stick up for him." One time, she said, she even called the police to protect Shunka after someone had threatened him. "But he gets into arguments. I tried to talk to him. I told him to leave. ... He was causing a scene, right by the door, and I can't have it. He refused to leave. ... I said, fine. I went into the store. He followed me into the store, and he was still yelling at me, 'Oh, now you're going to call the police on me.'" Coulter called the police, but Shunka left before they arrived.

Shunka, waiting in the courthouse for the jury verdict Tuesday, said Coulter did indeed ask him to leave and he did, indeed, refuse to. As for the HFD tablers, he said he merely asked them why they had Trees Foundation literature on their table. "I said, 'Why do you want to represent these people?'" And then, he said, "Jeff accused me of embezzling — he said this in public. He said, 'You've embezzled thousands of dollars from the Earth First! movement through the years.' And I complained to one of the employees who was walking by. Because that's serious, accusing someone of embezzling."

But Shunka said the whole thing's yet another attack on him. "I don't consider I was yelling. We were talking. I'm an emotional person, I concede to that. I speak from my heart. I don't scream at people. I would love to — but I don't."

In his email, Jeff with HFD predicted Shunka would leave town within weeks, if not sooner. But at the courthouse, even before the verdict, Shunka said he wasn't going anywhere.

"I'm just going to continue to run the Earth First! office and continue to call Humboldt County home," he said. He's also going to write a letter to the Co-op, complaining about how he gets scapegoated and booted out of there even when other people, he says, are the culprits. And, as for the Miller v. Trees case, he said, he and Miller may now take their complaint to another venue.

-- Heidi Walters

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Southern Burners???

2007-10-19T15:34:28Z

Hey ya'll,

I am from Chattanooga but have lived in Portland for the last 12 years. I am in the process of moving back to Chatt and am heading south by way of Burning Man. Are there any Tennessee burners out there? I have been to this amazing event several times before and if you have also you are aware of the decompression that needs to happen upon return to the default world. Please contact me if you live in Tennessee and will be attending Burning Man this year. Maybe we can meet, visit and then decompress upon our return the the southland. Holla!

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House exchange wanted-our Silverlake (Los Angeles) home for your Chattanooga place this xmas!

2007-10-14T22:45:53Z

Visiting family for the xmas holiday and would like to swap housing rather than pay for lodging if possible. We have a great 2 br/2 ba with big kitchen, living room and dining room/office space. Would love to trade cars too (We have a Toyota Prius)! We have a view of the house dotted hills and of the Griffith Park Observatory (especially lovely when lit at night). Charming, with french windows throughout, and back patio with a grill. We are one of four units in a converted 1920's home. Our neighbors are great and the patio space is communal (but honestly, it is barely used by any of us). Coin op laundry on site. We pay $1995.00 in rent per month but are looking for a straight trade. Wi fi internet throughout house. We have 2 cats that would need to be looked after. We are willing to pet sit too.
Minutes from beautiful Griffith Park (hiking, horse back riding, biking), LA Zoo, Staples Center, walking to adorable neighborhood shops/restaurants/markets. 20 minutes to Hollywood, 30 minutes to beaches.
pics avail at
http://chattanooga.craigslist.org/swp/

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Best Bar-b-que in town

2007-02-19T13:16:51Z

Who has the best bar-b-que in the Nashville area (preferably near Franklin, but not if there isn't one near there). My daughter and son-in-law are coming for a visit from MN soon and my son-in-law wants to go to the best bar-b-que place in town. Suggestions please?

BJ

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Introduction and Request for Guidance

2007-02-09T05:05:41Z

Hi! I'm new to Tribe and need some guidance. What , in your opinion, is the best use of this site? I will be posting photos of my jewelry. Any suggestions on what else I should do?

To start with, my name is BJ and I’d like to invite you to visit my shop: www.adornmentsbybj.etsy.com. The Etsy site is full of all things handmade and I myself have approximately 100 items listed. There are numerous categories to visit within www.etsy.com and the artists are numerous and extremely talented! Also, I’m a member of EJA (Eclectic Jewelry Artisans) www.EEJA.org and The Art Jewelry Collective (AJA) www.artjewelrycollective.etsy.com . You are welcome to visit their sites and see for yourself all the beautiful, unique, and all handcrafted jewelry these artisans create! Please let me know about your passion in the arts and about yourself along with your website address, photos, and anything else you want to share. I’d love to hear from you!

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ROBERT E LEE. CONFEDERAT.E

2006-12-11T12:39:26Z

GET YER GGGUNNNS.

AHM RAISING THE FLAG.!

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WITH MAH PISTOLS,AN' MAH GUNS.!

2006-11-26T17:49:56Z

" AHM davey crocket,I'm Davey Crocket,of skinner mountain: Tennessee.
Davey Crocket Davey Crocket,
KING OF THE WILD FRONTIER!.

Skinner mountain,skinner mountain,skinner mountain,Tennessee.
I'm Davey Crocket,I'm Davey Crocket KING OF THE WILD FRONTIER,
DAVEY CROCKET DAVEY CROCKET<KING OF THE WILD FRONTIER<
Davey crocket davey crocket .......

billy the kid..............
united states........
marine.
heh...

an' I done left mah sleigh at Kirtland airforce base Albuquerque New Mexico Usa in the utilities room of the aeronautical scientists headquarters of the technology and science building amongst the barracks of the USMC.
Bring tha object to met at the St Vincent Da Paul church steps at noon.
I will handle the flight details,according to rank,and dimenstional SUBSTANCE of an ETHERIAL KIND. ho ho ho.
Wink....SMMMMIIILLLLE.
Hear dat???
wenccch? --------------------
-------------------------------------
--------------------------

The tennessee
rodeao CLOWN.
heh.

heart throb.

heatr beat why do you miss misss when my baby kissessss me.

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I can explain every thing. It was an honest mistake.I couldn't get through to you any other way!?

2006-11-08T00:12:34Z

This is mohini.I'm trying to get past an icon problem I am having.
I'm on a killer computer.That's one that kills you in mid sentence whenercer it wants to,and it seems to want to with....me....:-) tee hee giggle giggle.tee hee.
I was just trying to see if I can fool you.I wanted to know if you think I look like father xmas......tee heee.. AND if I do......giggle giggle....hmmmmn
I think I'll KILL bill gates first!.Then that little brat from Normandy who killed Hitler,invented the silicon chip computer,the atomic bomb,the katusha rocket system that saved Russia in the 20th centur A.D.....and now,is building THE house for God Almighty on Zion in Ezekiel 40-43......hehe heh wants a F%$#%$^%$#@#$ K. tee hee giggle giggle and ahm.......FRIGID COLD STEEL STATUE..
heh

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Old Glory on display in Nashville

2006-10-24T17:19:50Z

There is an 'Old Glory' exhibit at the TN State Museum in Nashville. It features a famous flag on loan from the Smithsonian.

Did you know the man who first called our national flag Old Glory was a Tennessean and is buried in the City Cemetary in Nashville?

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Wake Up Tennessee!!!!!!!!!

2006-10-24T17:17:53Z

Hey Y'all!

This is Rhonda, your shiny new moderator... what's up? I would like everyone to post events, messages, whatever about what's going on in Tennessee. Know of a great event? Something like that, just post it....

I want to make this a great tribe with lots of activity! So, get your typing fingers out and make yourself known. There are currently 80+ members... where are you??????

Are you alive out there?

Smiles :)
Rhonda

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SANTAS NEW ADDRESS.

2006-10-15T22:08:29Z

Well it might work.

santa clause
c/o The President
Mr George Bush
White House
Washingto D.C

Put all your christmas wishes in the letter and send it to the President asking that he let me have my flying saucer sleigh at Kirtland airforce base New Mexico,that's a little south of Nevada.Not in Mexico.
Then if you don't get the presents you'll know I didn't get my sleigh.Ha.
AND IF I GET MY FLYING SAUCER SLEIGH FROM KIRTLAND AIRFORCE BASE IN NEW MEXICO
I PROMISE EVERY KID IN TENNESSEE A CHRISTMAS GIFT THE'LL LIKE,WHETHER THEY HAVE CHIMNIES OR NOT!.
HO HO HO. :-)

(Worked in the movie..."miracle at 34 th st ".

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WELL,THE SWEDISH AIRFORCE KILLED RUDOLPH THE RED NOSED RAINDEER AND........

2006-10-15T20:39:31Z

without poor old Rudolph Santa won't be able to bring ANY christmas presents to the kiddies of Tennessee this year,and that would be SAD. :-(
This is a job for Arnold Shwartznegger,Bruce Willis,John Lithgow,Barbara Eden and Clint Eastwood all combined folks....and your help would be REALLY GREAT. he...
Maybe President Bush could help a bit too.My,lots of people listen to him.
heh :-)
Can't pick this one folks.
Tight finish.Will it happen?
Who knows.Rudolph is DEAD. :-(
Little flying saucers at Kirtland airforce base new mexico,just a little south of Nevada,makes a really cool modern santa sleigh.Doesnt need chimneys to get into ho ho ho.
Oh come along folks.
I,m in NYC just near 34th street,You see the movie?
Believe it.HELP

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WELL, MAH DADDY WAS THE EMPEROR OF INDIA.HEH. :-)

2006-10-15T17:25:46Z

and that d%$#$%g river flows from my right toe,they tell me,and I gotta believe their books and their WISEST officials,,,right...?
Mah wife sure looks pretty....but SHE don't look like an ELEPHANT.....What's going ON. Hon :-)

"bebbies from heaven.... " :-)
yeah yeah.

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SO,WHATYA CAPTAIN OF? CAPTAIN? YER RUBBER DUCKY OR YER TUB?

2006-10-15T11:22:27Z

he he he he he YANK!.
Welcome to TENNESSEE land of the brave and the tree.
Heh heh.
or was it brave tree?
forgot.
Anyway.How do you it so far? yank.
heh ;;--

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Tower Records

2006-10-09T22:22:07Z

yes folks, it's true. my beloved place of employment is to be no more.

tower records... yet another great american company fucked over by great american inc.

as a formal sign of protest, i'm asking everyone i know please, do not participate in the liquidation sale. these people do not care about you. hell, the guy they've got running our store doesn't even like music. he thinks michael bolton is still cool. they are evil in every sense and meaning of the word; the less money they make off the people i know and love, the better i feel about the whole thing.

the apocalypse is near. i can feel it coming. i think i know what it is...

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New Monsoon in Nashville

2006-10-05T16:03:50Z

Just wanted to put this out there... these guys are on FIRE and worth catching at any cost!!

June 2nd - Friday Exit/In Nashville, TN Late show--11pm start

You can learn more at www.newmonsoon.com

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EAST TENNESSEE BELLYDANCE WORKSHOP THIS WEEKEND

2006-10-05T16:03:20Z

Hey ya'll!
I just wanted to let you know that I am teaching a Bellydance workshop tomorrow at Gypsy Hands Healing Arts Center in Knoxville TOMORROW, SATURDAY MAY 27!!! Noon to 5pm. The workshop will include an hour of yoga and toning, an hour of deep precision isolations in relation to chakras, and then a choreography to Solace's Nataraja (found on the Satya album). There will also be a HAFLA at Gypsy hands that night at 8pm, so this is a great chance to come out and meet dance affecionados in your region! The workshop is $55, the hafla is $10 or both for $60. This workshop is appropraite for all-levels, so if you've even only just thought about trying bellydance, come try it now! Hope to meet you there! ~Mizilca

To register Contact Sara Griscom at Gypsy Hands Healing Arts Center
(865) 522-5829
711 North Central Avenue, Knoxville, TN 37917
sara@gypsyhands.com
www.gypsyhands.com
www.transformationalbellydance.com

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Hello

2006-10-05T16:02:43Z

Just wanted to say hello, new to this group. this is the first time i have been on tribe.

Brandy

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local rawk show

2006-01-24T10:07:00Z

haven't got friday nite plans? well now you do!
local rock heroes SPOUT will be having a cd release party for their second album, "what are you waiting for" @ THE END this FRIDAY JAN 27, 10PM, and you should be there! for more info or to hear what the band sounds like (as if you didn't already know), check out www.spoutmusic.com

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Welcome to our Newbies!

2006-01-20T22:20:21Z

Looks like we have had a few new people join the tribe. If you're new, WELCOME! Tribe says it will be starting a system where moderators are notified of new members, but for right now... if you are new--- introduce yourself! Tell us who you are and why you joined? What other cool tribes do you belong to? You know, stuff like that!

Have a great weekend, everyone!

Rhonda Lee

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Hi All!

2006-01-13T16:31:59Z

Just a quick post to see if anyone still reads this thing!!! Doed anyone know of anything cool happening in the near future in good ol' Tennessee??? Especially family-oriented activities? The fam and I are BORED sitting around on the weekends, and the only places I know to look for things to do are the Nashville Scene and The Rage... any other ideas?

Thanks!

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Religious Oppression

2006-01-13T12:54:32Z

I'm glad that there's a lot of nice things to say about TN but I'd rather talk about the dirt right now.

And that is religion. Now all my life I've been a religious person and have even been a long term overseas missionary, but living in Tennessee has brought me to the point where I want nothing to do with religion or religious people.

Anyone else feel the same? Don't hold back!

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Greetings From a Geek

2005-11-11T18:40:44Z

Hello all. Making my presence known. Now don't everyone come posting all at once. I only have two hands, two eyes and 10 fingers.

Nashville so far has been great! Looking forward to meeting plenty of new people, both wierd and normal. Which are you!?

theMacGeek

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This does NOT make a loki happy!!!!

2005-11-09T18:22:45Z

No talk? There are only 2 excuses that I will except!! Death and sickness!! Haha I kid it is only death!!!

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I'm back.

2005-11-09T14:31:14Z

Howdy Tennessee.Got a message for you all.
Remember the Alamo. :-)

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Hanted Murfreesboro

2005-10-20T01:48:05Z

Come hear tales of olde Murfreesboro. The BoroTellers are Murfreesboro's premiere storytelling guild, and Haunted Murfreesboro is its most ambitous project to date. Fridays and Saturdays, October 21-22 and 28-29, the BoroTellers will present a lantern-light storytelling tour of historic downtown Murfreesboro. Tours start at 8pm and leave every 15 minutes through 10pm. Reservations may be made ahead of time (I'll get the number for you later), and they're filling up fast!!! I am one of the featured tellers, and the stories we've got are great.

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it's me again....

2005-10-19T23:16:18Z

OK, Guys/
Let's get a head start this week and y'all tell me about all the cool, fun, and unusual stuff happening this coming weekend!

I have a family and I am trying to do something with them each weekend... I know you all know some good stuff going on.... fill me in... enlighten me... please :) Pretty please ;)

Smiles
Rhonda
www.rhondalee.net

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Hail the new moderator

2005-10-13T19:07:11Z

I don't know how you pulled it off without my letter. But, congragulations regardless.

I hate using public comps.. STUPID STICKY KEYBOARD!!!!

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On my way!

2005-10-12T16:58:09Z

Hi!

I'll be moving to Nashville in a couple of weeks. I'm really excited because I've been a military brat most of my life, but now that my dad's retired we're finally coming "home"!! I've visited Nashville a few times, but it was mostly to see my relatives. The last time I was there was a couple of months ago for my mother's funeral...

Anyway, where all the fun (and cheap!) places in the Nashville area? I love books, art, music, and interesting people.

~ Angel

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Looking for a new moderator

2005-10-07T14:38:32Z

I am sure some of you have noticed that my lcation has changed to Seattle. I was semi just supposed to be visiting here and just don't want to leave. I really feel that this tribe should be in the hands of a Tennessean. So, if any one thinks they can keep it up in here just let me know.

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New Tribe for Performance Artists of the South-East..

2005-09-27T09:08:47Z

http://tribes.tribe.net/performartsoutheast?r=10381#

A Collective of Performance Artists in the South-East.. so that we can find Eachother and Unify.. Ritual Performance Encouraged..

Also if you are into Prop or Scene Design, Costume Making, Producing, Promoting, etc... Or if you have an Event you need such Creatures for..

Puurrr.... x0x

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New Tribe!! Performing Mama's join Me!

2005-09-27T00:07:03Z

I started a new tribe today... This is going to be a place for all performing mothers, whether singers, songwriters, dancers, actresses, comedians, bellydancers, whatever... to share their stories, their tips for balancing home and performance, marriage, personal issues, post photos of moms and kids, lots of things. Feel welcome to come and join the newest tribe! We'll be happy to have you. I look forward to getting to know all of you!
Smiles, Rhonda Lee
www.rhondalee.net
http://tribes.tribe.net/performingmamas?r=10511

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Any artists here?

2005-09-20T20:12:01Z

Hey... I'm looking for a cool group to hang out with... Is there anyone here who is an artist in some way? I just started learning poi/fire spinning. I also write and do acting.

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Idapalooza Fundraiser/Party Saturday

2005-09-18T20:11:57Z

Do people here know much about Idapalooza (which has some *great* acts, BTW)?.....anyway, we're having a fundraising party for it on Saturday at John & Lee's. It'll be an all day BBQ/Creek-Dip thing, and after dark we'll video-project the Wizard of Oz to The Dark Side of the Moon. (Tht's so hillbilly, I know....but it's impressive when you see the synchronization....)
Anyway, if you're free and up for a party on Saturday, there it is!
Take care,
F

http://nashville.tribe.net/event/b72b5723-d29a-43b8-a2fd-a7935d1a5a71

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Got a time and place

2005-09-11T07:03:26Z

Nashville BellyDance will be having a benefit Saturday 9-10-05 at the Amerisuites Hotel in Hendersonville starting at 6:30 pm.
Please come and support the Katrina Relief effort!! If you are a dancer, contact Anderia at amhudgens@msn.com to let her know if you can dance with us!!

Thanks
Cathy

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Dance from the Heart Part 2

2005-09-02T01:20:59Z

I am a member of the Nashville BellyDance Group and wanted to alert ya'll that we will be doing another silent auction and benefit bellydance concert for the folks that got flattened by Katrina. I'll post again when a definite time and place are set. Save up some money so you can come watch us shimmying for charity!

Cathy AKA Nahni

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For the crafty, sewing type of folks

2005-08-16T15:48:40Z

the Intergalactic Bead Show will be at the State Fairgrounds this weekend! A chance to stock up on shiny stuff :)

Cathy

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Other TN tribes.

2005-08-09T08:32:17Z

I have gotten alot of crap for starting this tribe from people that don't even live in TN. They said that I was trying to break up the existing TN tribes. Which was not at all my intention. I was trying to give you all a place to start enjoying tribe the same way I have. So, I have desided to post a few other Tn tribes. Like the localized ones and the ones of special interest. I encourage you all to do the same.

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Sound System Rental??

2005-08-09T02:31:12Z

Does anyone here know where I could find a good sound system rental that's on the good-deal end of the spectrum and can handle the outdoor amplification of live music for a crowd of 300 or so? Does anyone OWN this kind of equipment that would be interested in renting it out (or even donating the service, if they're in that position) for two to three days in september (the 22-24, probably...) Our old rental source is no longer in the state...
Thanks

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Speed can get expensive

2005-08-06T05:32:45Z

Got this from a friend. Sounds downright unfriendly.

>> Tennessee will launch a 30-day speeding ticket frenzy beginning
>> July
>> 31, 2005. The state of Tennessee estimates that 9 million dollars
>> will be generated in speeding tickets. 1 million will go to pay
>> state
>> troopers overtime. There will be 57 state troopers on duty at all
>> times patrolling.
>>
>> They will be patrolling the following:
>>
>> I-24 east and west
>> I-40 east and west
>> I-65 north and south
>> I-75 north and south
>>
>> Now 5 mph above the limit can justify a ticket and every state
>> trooper is supposed to pull a car over and write a ticket every 10
>> minutes. They have issued 30 brand new unmarked Crown Victoria
>> cruisers and they are bringing all their part timers on full time.
>>

All about the money, honey.

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Favorite Place in Knoxville Photo of Golden Building with Pillars..

2005-08-03T04:41:25Z

..is that off limits? Looks like there's a fence around it.. it is so beautiful I'd love to do a period piece photoshoot there at night.. Hmn.. What's the story behind the building? Privately owned? Government owned?

Thanks..
~miss mYa*

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And what do you do with your True TN Time?

2005-08-01T22:48:33Z

How do you spend your time, when you can do as you please?

Mondays and Wednesdays I (optionally) drop by the Knoxville Swing Association's swing dancing nights near UTK campus.

Tuesday's I've made it a semi-ritual to drop by Bailey's Sportsbar to play pool, whether by myself or with others, and generally limit it to an hour regardless.

On sunny non-humid days I play frisbee golf at one of the three parks in town that are set up to play the game.

When I can find a willing partner and have the money to spend I drop by The Climbing Center, a recreational indoor ... climbing ... center... hm. Intuitive, no? It's not that expensive ($10 + $3 for shoes), especially since you can stay as long as you like there once you're in, but since frisbee golf is free... well.. it wins out usually. ;)

Also, I have regular run-ins with a friend of mine at a local coffeeshop where we play chess and discuss the deep and interesting... such as the ratio of people that are there to relax and study versus those that are there in the hope that someone will interrupt their relaxing and studying. ;)

If you're in Knoxville and think any of these things sound fun, I'd love to have more people join in the fun =D

But back to the original question, what do you do? I need new ideas! Go!

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New Here

2005-07-30T07:24:58Z

Hey guys. I am new to the Tribe and just wanted to say hello. I have been with Tribe for a while now, but lost interest along the way. There has never really been a big showing from TN, not just on here, but on all network sites. Once again, just saying hello.

Chris

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Nirvana

2005-07-30T06:17:23Z

anyone here like nirvana? or are loki and mike hawk the only people i know in this blasted state that appreciate Kurt?

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Regarding many State Parks closing in TN...

2005-07-30T05:29:12Z

Do any of you know any great Parks that have closed or may be closing?

Which ones are good to go to that have the least amount of tourists? I'd like to start hiking around some when I arrive..

Thanks!

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So where is everyone?

2005-07-20T04:26:44Z

I have noticed you all haven't been talking:( You got no more love? Is this tribe helping any of you?

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TRUE TN IRL GET TOGETHER.

2005-07-15T19:32:19Z

IN nashville. pick a bar. pick a date, lets try to compromise so that we have maximum turn out, other tribes do this,and i've always heard they had hella fun.

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Moving to TN in 3 - 5 years...

2005-07-14T00:47:53Z

Looking for like minded creatures to connect with..

Wishes..
~mYa*

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Hey Ya'll and Yee Haw!

2005-07-13T03:52:17Z

I just got dragged into this tribe by the toes.So I am a newbie to this tribe.Hope to meet a bunch of ya.I have been here almost a year and don't know too many people.Looking forward to chattin with ya all.

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Need help from murfeesboro

2005-07-12T04:02:29Z

I need help finding a good lawyer(concerning a delicate matter). I would greatly appreciate it. Sorry for being so vague, I wil diclose more on a more personal level.

Thank you,
Loki

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Tennessee hates different opinions!

2005-07-07T21:04:45Z

check this out...just less than a year ago i started this site "www.banarchyclub.tk" and its been geared against the government, and towards punks and other rockers or anarchists who have the time to post... but now we've reached our all-time goal, and it doesnt seem as great as id thought it would... we have been blocked by the Portland Public Library. thats the only one i know of but it may be others. We've never crossed the line of treason...or displayed any form of pornography, but we're blocked, and its BULLSHIT! check out the site, and join if you can, and write me back about what you think... peace out, and to hell with web-block!

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DANCING IN THE DISTRICT

2005-07-07T18:50:18Z

prank and i are going to dancin tonight in nashville. anyone else going there tonight?

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Favorite thing about TN?

2005-07-06T23:34:39Z

My absolute favorite thing about TN is all the summer concerts. I am still really sad about them taking away Riverstages :(( Why god why?

I am eager to see your responses. Maybe you can help me find some cool things here. I haven't found yet.

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Live 8

2005-07-02T20:45:38Z

Normally I try to keep my political views to myself, but since we're all so good at voting, I would like to encourage all of you to head over to www.live8live.com or text message your name to 86483....

LET BUSH, BLAIR, AND THE REST OF THE G8 THAT WE SAY IT'S OK TO MAKE POVERTY HISTORY!!!

Thanks very much,
Chris

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N E Plans for the 4th?

2005-06-30T23:14:54Z

I was just wondering if any of you had some cool plans?

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Hey!!!!

2005-06-30T21:16:17Z

I have noticed that so many of you are on for long periods of time. I am going to start harrassing those of you that are on and not posting anything! Just take this as your warning.. START POSTING!!! I know where you all live now!!!(atleast state wise)

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ELVIS LIVES!!!!

2005-06-30T04:58:56Z

Through my adventures, I have have discovered the Mephis Native. I just wanted to let you all know. That HE IS ALIVE and doing well. Oh ya, one more thing. ELVIS IS IN THE BUILDING!!!

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go to hell

2005-06-30T01:59:12Z

http://tribes.tribe.net/SeeYouInHell

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You guys have been slammed LOL

2005-06-28T04:32:10Z

So I sent an email to my friend in Nashville (I'm in Knoxville now) to give me an update on the rock scene in town because I knew some people that were bitching about how much Nashville sucked music, music wise.

Be prepared to be bitch slapped.

You're ready, right?

Here goes.

~~~~~~

These people live in Nashville? If so, they're fucking lazy. Otherwise
just idiots.

http://exitin.com/

http://mercylounge.com/

http://nashville.bbkingclubs.com/

http://www.bourbonstreetblues.com/

http://themusenashville.com/

http://www.blacklabelempire.com/blueskycourt/ (might be closed)

The End
(http://nashville.citysearch.com/profile/9319175/nashville_tn/the_end.html)

The Springwater
(http://nashville.citysearch.com/profile/9319165/nashville_tn/springwater.html)

3rd & Lindsley
(http://nashville.citysearch.com/profile/9330350/nashville_tn/3rd_lindsley_bar_grill.html)

12th & Porter recently closed. [side note from me: WTF!!! 12th and porter was great! ok done]

The Church (no website)

http://thebasementnashville.com/ (which is in the basement of an
independantly-owned record store (http://grimeys.com), which also hosts
live music.

Cafe Coco [side note: ahh, cafe coco... =) It and Bongo Java are the hippest coffeeshops around. CC plays music on weekends though.]

And thats just off the top of my head.

Also be sure to point out that Jimi fucking Hendrix got his start in
Nashville, as well as countless rock bands.

Victor Wooten (arguably the greatest bassist on the planet) lives here,
I actually met him in a music store once.

Also, Bela Fleck (inarguably the greatest banjo player ever, though
*still* not a country musician) lives here. Say the phrase "Bela Fleck
and the Flecktones" in the presence of a musician who knows his ass from
an oboe and watch his eyes light up.

Also, rappers haystak and Young Buck (who is a member of the infamous
multiplatinum group G-Unit) are both from Nashville.

Everybody and his fucking brother comes to Nashville to record albums
because there are the best studios in the world here, and the most
experienced and talented recording engineers. In the Berry Hill
neighborhood, 1 in 5 homes is either a full blown studio, or contains a
studio.

Gibson fucking Guitars is has their headquarters here, and Fender's
Guild Custom Shop (where Fender builds its one-of-a-kind special
instruments for famous people, under the world famous brand 'Guild') is
here.

Gruhn Guitars (http://www.gruhn.com/) is here, and it's one of the most
famous guitar stores in the world (which is amazing, considering it's
suck-ass website).

Nothing burns my ass more than that ignorant-assed "Nashville is a hick
town" bullshit. I'd say next to possibly Atlanta, Nashville is the
hippest town in the south, and I honestly can't think of very many
places I'd rather live, and none in terms of music. I mean, what's
better? To live in a "better" city (NYC, LA, ATL, etc) you have to make
a huge jump in size, congestion and crime.

Shit. That's just stupid.

My neighbor gave Jimmy Buffet his first ever audition... at the
Exit/Inn, in Nashville. In fact, the song "Cheeseburger in paradise" is
about a restaurant named Rotiers, which is just down the road from the
Exit/Inn, and about 5 minutes from my house.

Some more links of interest...

http://www.nashvillerockscene.com/

http://nashvillerock.net/

http://nashville.about.com/od/rockmusic/

http://www.nighttraintonashville.com/

I am a regular on an online forum for guitar players and there are at
least half a dozen of them who moved from Nashville to other big cities
and say they miss the scene in Nashville, because even though there may
be more going on in other cities, there's also a lot more noise. Whereas
the general quality of music in Nashville is just better. Shit,
Nashville is famous amoung musicians because your waiter at Waffle House
is possibly the next superstar. There's a saying among gigging guitar
players "Never let a crowd member on stage with you if you're playing in
Nashville, because there's a good chance he'll make you look bad".

In fact, go to nashville.citysearch.com and look at the live music
schedule...

Country - 25

alt. Country/Rockabilly (which is not country) - 9

metal - 5

rock - 38.

There's a *huge* problem with modern Nashville country.... it fucking
sucks. There hasn't been a Johnny Cash since... well... thats a bad
example because he's a once in a century phenomena, but the point is
that Nashville country is just pop with stupid hats. The people of
Nashville are losing interest, that shit is selling more around the
country than it is here.

Tell these people to take their heads out of their asses.

Seriously, who are these people? Do they even know anything about music?
Do they listen to Linkin Park or Disturbed?

~~~~~

lol.

Put a steak on that eye, it's gonna swell hardcore.

posted in True TN - 8 replies

I just wanted to brag

2005-06-25T22:46:11Z

about how much gypsy rose wants me! She told me last night, I am sexxxiest thing she has ever seen in her life. Who am I to argue? It is so true! YOU KNOW YOU WANT THIS!!!! HAHA told you I would!

posted in True TN - 3 replies

I was wondering...

2005-06-25T22:04:47Z

Because, we live in the state of country music. How many of you like country? I know I don't like modern country. But, I like some really instrumental bluegrass. I have had a lot of people say I am supposed to like country. Because, I live in Nashville of all places. But, I know the rest of the state gets that ear mark as well. So this question isn't just directed to us Nashvillians.

posted in True TN - 10 replies

Welcome Tennessee

2005-06-25T17:56:33Z

I saw the need to make a TN tribe. The ones on here are lame as all get out. I would like to keep this tribe kind of tame. So as if not to scare off newcomers. Thank you all for accepting my invites!

posted in True TN - 34 replies

Least favorite thing about TN?

2005-06-25T04:53:31Z

Just to be fair. I think my least favorite thing here is the division. I think it's like we have been talking about here. Tn really doesn't know what it wants to be yet. Just as far as Nashville is concerned, it's really not the Music City anymore. It's pretty much isolated to being country music capitol of the world. I think this is changing slowly, I feel like people here are to proud to loose that title. I know it's appealing to me. There are recording studios everywhere. But, there are alot of "Dinosaurs" still rooted into the industry and that isn't in the music either. The dinosaurs are everywhere and they refuse to change with the times. But, change is inevitable. I just hope to see the end of this weird transitional period we are going through. I think this State has alot of potental and I am truely exited to see the results.

posted in True TN - 17 replies

"Born & bred" or Transplant?

2005-06-24T05:46:20Z

Hiya all you beautiful Tennessee folk!

I'm a transplant from SC. My hubby is from here.

I really dig this state, how big and diverse it is (culturally & geographically), the volunteer "spirit," the TONS of history, and the way UT football is a phenomena unlike any I have ever experienced. It is a small crazy country in and of itself!

I'm just wondering how many of you were born here and are still here; were born here, moved away and came back; or came here by your own free will, and what brought ya.

representing Jefferson City,
Jannette

posted in True TN - 11 replies

Gatlinburg

2005-06-24T05:19:52Z

I'm posting a few pics we took in downtown Gatlinburg. Fpr those unfamiliar, it's a lovely (though touristy) town in east TN, in the middle of the Great Smoky Mts. I could care less for all the shops and malls, etc...but what's really nice is to rent a cabin up in the mountains, stock the fridge and indulge in your favorite activities while soaking in the hot tub. There is nothing any lovelier than the mountains in Fall......

posted in True TN - 2 replies

idea

2005-06-23T03:21:36Z

to start get togethers or friendshipe like the other tribes in magor cities,nashville(cept for you fairies who are great) lacks tribes like this, so everyone come up with and idea and we'll see what we can get done about it.

posted in True TN - 1 reply

If you all don't mind.

2005-06-21T06:14:06Z

Could you post this tribe in other TN tribes you are in? If I haven't done it already..

posted in True TN - 0 replies

True TN's topics - tribe.net

Why are people from Tennessee

Anyone have a dual standard VCR [NTSC / PAL]??

NCEF! Media sabotaged! Hijacked by lone wingnut! Accused of fraud and embezzlement!

Southern Burners???

House exchange wanted-our Silverlake (Los Angeles) home for your Chattanooga place this xmas!

Best Bar-b-que in town

Introduction and Request for Guidance

ROBERT E LEE. CONFEDERAT.E

WITH MAH PISTOLS,AN' MAH GUNS.!

I can explain every thing. It was an honest mistake.I couldn't get through to you any other way!?

Old Glory on display in Nashville

Wake Up Tennessee!!!!!!!!!

SANTAS NEW ADDRESS.

WELL,THE SWEDISH AIRFORCE KILLED RUDOLPH THE RED NOSED RAINDEER AND........

WELL, MAH DADDY WAS THE EMPEROR OF INDIA.HEH. :-)

SO,WHATYA CAPTAIN OF? CAPTAIN? YER RUBBER DUCKY OR YER TUB?

Tower Records

New Monsoon in Nashville

EAST TENNESSEE BELLYDANCE WORKSHOP THIS WEEKEND

Hello

local rawk show

Welcome to our Newbies!

Hi All!

Religious Oppression

Greetings From a Geek

This does NOT make a loki happy!!!!

I'm back.

Hanted Murfreesboro

it's me again....

Hail the new moderator

On my way!

Looking for a new moderator

New Tribe for Performance Artists of the South-East..

New Tribe!! Performing Mama's join Me!

Any artists here?

Idapalooza Fundraiser/Party Saturday

Got a time and place

Dance from the Heart Part 2

For the crafty, sewing type of folks

Other TN tribes.

Sound System Rental??

Speed can get expensive

Favorite Place in Knoxville Photo of Golden Building with Pillars..

And what do you do with your True TN Time?

New Here

Nirvana

Regarding many State Parks closing in TN...

So where is everyone?

TRUE TN IRL GET TOGETHER.

Moving to TN in 3 - 5 years...

Hey Ya'll and Yee Haw!

Need help from murfeesboro

Tennessee hates different opinions!

DANCING IN THE DISTRICT

Favorite thing about TN?

Live 8

N E Plans for the 4th?

Hey!!!!

ELVIS LIVES!!!!

go to hell

You guys have been *slammed* LOL

I just wanted to brag

I was wondering...

Welcome Tennessee

Least favorite thing about TN?

"Born & bred" or Transplant?

Gatlinburg

idea

If you all don't mind.

You guys have been slammed LOL