Can Humanity Evolve, Survive WIthout Acknowledging It's Unconscioius Existence?

topic posted Mon, June 18, 2007 - 10:01 PM by  Christophera
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Can we recognize the root causes of our behaviors, the dangerous ones, the ones that threaten our survival as being unconsciously driven? Can we see how such behavior as RON in the 9-11 thread,

uspolitics.tribe.net/thread/...3a48370b

with their incessant evasion and distortion are unconsciously organized? Or the behavior of JEFF there who cannot perform cognitively when trying to support what he thinks is a credible explanation for 2 of the worlds strongest towers going to the ground almost identically at a rate near free fall?

Do we recognize that our memory is basically an attribute of the unconscious mind? And that each day our unconscious reprograms our puny conscious mind with what the conscious thinks life is about? Including what it has available to it for memory held in the unconscious.

If we can recognize these things can we accept that the reason we do not use our recognition of them in a way consistent with the meaning of them to take meaningful action, is, in itself, the acting out of an unconscious mandate? If we can accept that can we work against that unconscious mandate to engage actions that are logical with respect to the comprehensiveness of this message and do so immediately without evasion and cooperate with others who also observe and respect the comprehensive aspects of this message? Can we logically discern what the appropriate action is?

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  • no, if we don't wake up collectively, we are pretty much doomed. Those guys are sleepwalkers,
    they are really just running around in their programs as zombots, trying to keep everybody including
    themselves asleep.

    They can't address the evidence you present, they can only operate from the dogma which they are programmed
    with in knee jerk responses which betray that they have prejudged, and are closed to recieving new information.

    Like most con servers, they are caught in a web of lies and self deceptions. Ron is probably a paid disinfo agent.
    Theres not too many other good explanations for his behaviors en totalia, nobody has that kind of spinn track
    without being consciously aware that they are spinning.

    The root causes of our dangerous behaviors can be traced in summary to the reptile brain, and its social organizing
    aspects of pack, herd, and mob psychology. People such as your examples are trapped in a paradigm which justifies
    violence, verbal violence, personal attacks, and so forth, on the basis that this protects the alleged interests of the herd.
    In truth, they are damaging the capacity of the herd to wake up to real and present dangers.

    They are operating as sheepleherders.

    Their tools consist almost entirely of three main forms of cognitive dissonance and fallacious logic, these being
    personal attacks (ad hominem arguments) Straw man arguments (making up a fake version of an opponents argument
    so that they can then tear it down easilly) and false dillemma, (binary black and white thinking.)

    They create quite intentionally an atmosphre that is dumbed down and thus not capable of actually adressing the issues,
    or reality, or, of having an honest or intellectual dialogue.

    They are social sabotuers, a small clique of half a dozen individuals using social violence and manipulation to dominate
    and control a tribe with thousands of members.

    As long as such people continue to exist in such states of denial, all that is possible is a loosing battle against drivel and
    noise. That tribe may have a lot of traffick, but it is impossible to have a sincere, open, rational, fair, just, sane, civil, ethical,
    moral, or intellectual conversation there, due to the noise created by those people.

    The only hope for awakening rests in realizing that we can have real conversations elsewhere, or, in waking inna up to
    her responsibility to address abusive and manipulative behaviors.
    Short of this, that tribe will remain merely another means of social control and opression, to keep people silent, dumbed down,
    and held captive in psychological cages.

    realistically, inna does not seem capable of facing her responsibility, and so spending time on that tribe is in any case
    a waste of time.


    • www.atam.org/SerpentBrain.html
      What is it that causes people to ignore the facts and choose to agree with deception? What is it that renders the logical left-brain powerless in spite of the clear handwriting on the wall? What is it that paralyzes the brain and causes one to react instead of question and Think? What is it that causes Believers to somehow override the unction of the Holy Spirit deep within, the Bible and plain old “common sense”?

      The answer to those questions and many other similar ones is FEAR. When someone appeals to your fear (reptilian brain), whether it is in Church, media, newspaper or in person you will believe and do stupid things based on your fears. It does not matter how educated or uneducated, how wealthy or poor, how old or young, Spirit-filled or heathen one is; Fear will cause one to become irrational.

      A few months ago when the “terror alert” was raised again I happened to be listening to a political discussion among some Christians that I was with. I did all I could to just listen and not add my 2 cents because now-a-day it’s a Sin to not be rePublican (I’m not Democrat or Liberal either) and to disagree with the appointed President. Someone finally turned to me saying, “You’re prophetic, when will World War III begin and do you see Bush getting re-elected”? There was silence for a few moments as all eyes were upon me. I remember thinking “don’t blow your cover, be nice and agreeable,” after all these were people yet somewhat plugged into the system that had been blessed through my prophetic gifting and basic teachings.

      Without choosing my words I blurted out, “World War III has already started; it was started by your president when our country invaded Iraq. It’s being called the Global War on Terrorism.” Oopps! It was as if I was speaking a different language as their faces contorted and went from shock to anger, to fear and anger again. I tried to smooth things over by honestly telling them I think President Bush would get elected or appointed again. But I didn't dare tell them he will most likely invade Iran and Syria in the name of God if he wins the election; they would have probably passed out.
        • Excellent,

          Now we need to engage neo cortex processing which is limbically recognizable as relating to positve aspects of life (keep the reptile sleeping) via communication technology and disseminate this post haste.
          • well, i am glad you moved quickly to the other side.

            its true, our job is to focus on what is true and correct, on what is ethical and just, and, what is truly in
            the interests of survival of our species. We need to help people to understand that these actions
            and behaviors hurt themsevels and damage our potential to have a future for our children.

            Its soft to allow them to continue to sleep, but to some extent this is necessary because most people
            would be terrified and overwhelmed if the reptile brains thoughts fully surfaced into the conscious mind.

            when people operate via ad hominem, it must be understood that they are attacking not only what is outside of
            themselves, but that they are also attacking their own reptile self. Such persons operate as they do projecting
            a war that exists within them outside of them. We become just the blank movie screens upon which they project
            their own shadows and disease. So such people cannot face their own reptile within, and thus cannot draw
            power or understaning from it. This in turn makes them incapable of genuine reasoning, empathy, compassion,
            creative thinking, collaboration, cooperation, etc. Paradoxically, the people who are repressing their reptile selves
            are actually thus bound to act out from that level; as herd reptiles.
            • PROM WROTE:
              well, i am glad you moved quickly to the other side.

              its true, our job is to focus on what is true and correct, on what is ethical and just, and, what is truly in
              the interests of survival of our species. We need to help people to understand that these actions
              and behaviors hurt themsevels and damage our potential to have a future for our children.



              It seems that the limbic recognition of positive intents can engage neo corgtex processing that elevates communications which spread or enhance the societal environment, futher reducing fear and assuring the lizard brain that it can stay inactive which allows positive actions to be contemplated and then taken.


              PROM WROTE:
              Its soft to allow them to continue to sleep, but to some extent this is necessary because most people
              would be terrified and overwhelmed if the reptile brains thoughts fully surfaced into the conscious mind.



              Or if they were terrified the reptile would fully surface.


              PROM WROTE:
              when people operate via ad hominem, it must be understood that they are attacking not only what is outside of
              themselves, but that they are also attacking their own reptile self. Such persons operate as they do projecting
              a war that exists within them outside of them. We become just the blank movie screens upon which they project
              their own shadows and disease. So such people cannot face their own reptile within, and thus cannot draw
              power or understaning from it. This in turn makes them incapable of genuine reasoning, empathy, compassion,
              creative thinking, collaboration, cooperation, etc. Paradoxically, the people who are repressing their reptile selves
              are actually thus bound to act out from that level; as herd reptiles.



              So very true. So the best action is an invitation full of warmth and love demonstrating understanding which exemplifies the end of fears and the beginning of human activities of thoughtful awareness, fascination with positive collective actions.

              BEGIN

              A djimbe echoing lightly outside a cave by a fire, a sunset dies in the background while a Dijiredo groans vison quest as a young women voices her most beautiful dreams of her future for a video camera. The cameras focus slowly blurrs, far, then near, then far, then near............ zoom wide, panning to her face, close Her blue eyes suddenly seen as the area brightens. "Let us know, let us know, let us know, .......let us share knowing our needs, ............needs"

              END. ............ to be continued
              • yes, hmmm.
                • CONTINUED

                  Panning past her to the left, dancers are seen against the darkening sunset. Her head lowers and voice quiets.
                  "Confusion separates us, the distraction of desires. We've been taught to think we can continue indulging with focus on our wants, but wants are infinite. Our needs are limited and we all share them whether we know it or not. Focus on them is unity, it's automatic. We've become so easily distracted, media corporations promote fantasy and so many of us learned to be distracted with that rather than the simple practice of focusing on our needs. Distraction has become a way of life."

                  The drum volume rises, the camera zooms out onto the dancers, fingers of a pair hands form a circle that mimic the sun setting, waving slowly back and forth.

                  Her voice continues lyrically, rhythmically, her hands form a circle similar to the dancers in the background that gently bounces with the circled fingers of the dancer there.

                  "Meet the short term need, then engage the long term. Secure the short term by focus on the long term. The dance of life. This is what politics are for, I love it, ...... my culture! My children need it, yes need. We all need it."

                  TO BE CONTINUED, .......
                  • This is the maximum depth. Additional responses will not be threaded.
                    CONTINUED

                    A mans voice is heard.

                    "Yes, .... so completely yes."

                    The camera pans further left out the broad cave opening. A young man with dreadlocks stands with his hand on his hips, defiant.

                    "So true good and brave woman. Speaking such a beautiful truth. Yes, ...... politics are spiritual and at best are about love. The confusion, oh Creator give us a break'"

                    He dances in a quick circle bending down to pick a bundle of smoldering sage from a abalone shell on the ground. Her face and eyes watch his moves. A few people sit behind him, they watch. The camera zooms into his hands as he lifts the sage up blowing on it causing it to glow and smoke. He twirls in a dance and encircles the small group of people behind them waving the sage low then high, symbolically embracing them. he speaks

                    "Oh Creator, thank you for the blessing of so many loving people seeking to dispel the confusion dark forces have created in them. Please help them to understand their needs and separate them from the wants which those uncaring forces have elevated to such important so the unfeeling corporations can profit from their lies. please help them to forget and relinquish the false want they have learned, the destructive desires and patterns of living they have assumed as the glowing false fires burning in every living room have spewed forth."

                    The camera catches the woman's face, she smiles. He notices and stops, interrupted by her breach of the solemnity he was striving for. He questions her.

                    "What?"

                    She is silent, thinking forming her words. He looks around at the seated people to his side, then back to her. Again he asks.

                    "What?"

                    TO BE CONTINUED, .......
                    • CONTINUED

                      The woman, feeling she has made her point without saying a word, smiles more broadly, she speaks.

                      "It does not need to be that complicated. Again, ........ that word, "need". It does not -have to- "be " that complicated. All people -have to- do is agree. So it is not about determining how far the agreements can go or end, it is about determining where they begin.

                      Mild exasperation seems to challenge her.

                      "It is ironic, .......... we are educated for 12 years, then go to college 4 more years, .... but when we finally receive that coveted degree, then it seems only corporations actually "need" it.

                      The man leans forward quickly, interrupting.

                      "The corporations don't "need" anything."

                      Exasperation fled, she holds confidence and mastery in her face. (see beautiful woman ---> to right in advertising. Imagine her saying these things.)

                      "Okay, I'll go for that. Only individuals have "needs", the fucking corporations only have "requirements". Are you freaking happy now? My point being is, YOU, with all of your education."

                      She points her finger at his stomach. He reacts lightly, as if being shot with a gun. She continues.

                      "I'll bet you can't even name your first need. I'll give you a clue, ........ it's a condition, a sacred condition. Name your first need now, .... please."

                      Her coy, condescending demand challenges him beyond his egos control. Wide eyed he laughs maniacally astounded she would assume without testing, that she ....... could .......... be ....... correct. Frantically he casts about with his eyes. Suddenly short on words. His eyes meet hers, a deep inquiry of spirit reaches out to her from him as he begins to speak with uncertainly.

                      TO BE CONTINUED, .......
                    • CONTINUED



                      Puffing himself up somewhat he speaks.

                      "It must be air. Everything that lives needs air all the time.

                      The confidence of his voice is not matched by the look on his face.

                      She, smiles and slowly begins to shake her head, glancing to the people seated behind the man, her eyebrows rising. Slowly she speaks.

                      "I'm not surprised. The very simple concept you are about to learn has virtually been removed from western societies, one reason we cause so much suffering and may suffer so much. If, ........ we cannot act together to control the government we think is ours.

                      Her eyes turn sharply to meet his, she continues.

                      "That first need of your which you are so typically ignorant of is your life, a sacred condition."

                      The camera shows the faces of those seated behind the man who has attained a sheepish expression. Some seated are amused, others lightly surprised, nodding thoughtfully. She continues.

                      "And air is second. It is true, all life needs air. But, ......... what is third?"

                      He is quick to speak, confident he knows.

                      "Water."

                      She nods, yes, generally. But, .......... when is that NOT true?"

                      He looks perplexed and shrugs lightly.

                      She continues.

                      "This is a very important aspect. We must understand each other and how conditions change our needs. A homeless man can die tonight of exposure to the cold because he has no blanket."

                      The man nods, raises his eyebrows and sits slowly. She continues.

                      "We must be sensitive to each others conditions. We must know needs and know them well. This is the essence of being a tribe, or tribal. Think of the word. We've lost the meanings of so many words. We use them without knowing what they say.

                      "For example. Who here believes they can tell me what the word "culture" means?"

                      The small audience, now uncertain glances back and forth, to the man, to the woman, to the man, expecting him to meet the challenge.



                      TO BE CONTINUED, .......
    • Good post,

      You've defined the problem persons well, and that we cannot expect them to do anything to alleviate the situation.

      You've addressed that local quasi authority is basically an unwitting part of the problem without capacity to see their own role and take effective action, or even to recognize what that might be.

      You know tribe pretty well. Is there a central place where communicative art of the visual and auditory type gain be viewed en masse, at least temporarily?

      • You know tribe pretty well. Is there a central place where communicative art of the visual and auditory type gain be viewed en masse, at least temporarily?
        ----
        central? no, pretty much its just tribes and more tibes.

        we can make THIS tribe our center, or we can go use utube.

        my suggestion is the former.
        • I think if we cross posted everythingm we would weave it into one place because all the platforms we use would point back to the same thing - unity.

          People it is possible, but no one uses these technologies that way because they lack the intention and bodhictta and have not been taught to. I think its not what but HOW we use it. I think its a double edged sword.

          So yeah, we have no tribe, no unity because no one wants to do that inner work. We can create it slowly, alone and together.

          Yes this is a great start, a great place to start it.

          Please advise.....
          • The dialog I've typified need to be repeated in varying ways by all the subcultures of America in an effort to reprogram ourselves with functional precepts fro daily interactions that can lead to productivity.

            The dialog needs to be exemplified by leadership in order for the people to escape from the trap of deceptive manipulation woven oround our minds, our families and our communities comprised of distorted wants and desires as awareness of our needs is diminished.

            I cannot see how this web site can be used to empower consolidation of people who are focusing on unity. Can you?
            • For example. There seems to be no way for any viewer to know that I was responding with my last post to this post. How confusing and disorganized can a message board be in its concept?

              NAMASTEEZY WROTE:
              I think if we cross posted everythingm we would weave it into one place because all the platforms we use would point back to the same thing - unity.

              People it is possible, but no one uses these technologies that way because they lack the intention and bodhictta and have not been taught to. I think its not what but HOW we use it. I think its a double edged sword.

              So yeah, we have no tribe, no unity because no one wants to do that inner work. We can create it slowly, alone and together.

              Yes this is a great start, a great place to start it.

              Please advise.....
              • chris, you keep complaining that this site has problems, but at least i'm not going to unsub you or kick you
                off. At least we have some stability here. And at least theres a few people here rather than nobody.
                And at least i can work the topics and stuff so it doesn't sound completely quacky, as compared to your guyses
                site. (errrrr)

                Theres problems and pros and cons all over the place.
                This is one place we can work from which has its own pros and cons. It not the perfect medium, but its better
                than any alternative so far out there.
                • Prometheus Pan wrote:
                  Tue, August 7, 2007 - 8:11 PM
                  Re: Can Humanity Evolve, Survive WIthout Acknowledging It's Unconscioius Existence?
                  "chris, you keep complaining that this site has problems, but at least i'm not going to unsub you or kick you
                  off. At least we have some stability here. And at least theres a few people here rather than nobody.
                  And at least i can work the topics and stuff so it doesn't sound completely quacky, as compared to your guyses
                  site. (errrrr)

                  Theres problems and pros and cons all over the place.
                  This is one place we can work from which has its own pros and cons. It not the perfect medium, but its better
                  than any alternative so far out there."



                  This site has deficiencies Pan, and that is a problem. And there are lots of people here that are not aware of that problem because their intention is not to try and solve problems by networking people with deeper understanding of huge issues that control our world.

                  The solution to those problems do not include competition and I am not competing. If this site had a normal quote function and one could post images in a thread it would be better for dealing with huge issues, but it doesn't.
  • Whether they are asleep or not doesn't matter. Their purpose is a purpose, and they do have a role to play in what comes to pass. I think the question should ask how do these people affect me ?

    A lot of people will never evolve and become conscious, will this open your eyes to what is really going on ?
    • Whether they are asleep or not doesn't matter.
      ---
      i disagree, but lets not focus there.
      ---

      Their purpose is a purpose, and they do have a role to play in what comes to pass.
      ---
      i disagree, they don't play any useful or good role other than making themselves miserable and participating
      in devolution.
      ----

      I think the question should ask how do these people affect me ?
      ----
      more than most people are capable of realizing, such noise actually effects people on both conscious and sub conscious levels,
      such that certain modes of conversation become impossible, along with clarity of thought or discussion.
      ----

      A lot of people will never evolve and become conscious,
      ----
      that may be true, but they are still the people in the matix in my neighborhood, and i will still do what i can to awaken as many\
      as i can, because that is the path of right action.
      ---

      will this open your eyes to what is really going on ?
      ----
      my eyes are wide open to whats going on.
      • >>>they don't play any usefull or good role.............<<<

        Whether thier role is good or usefull, isn't the question. How does their role affect you ? Do you let it get you down ? do you keep on trying to open thier eyes or try to affect them in a positive manner ? (Lead by example)

        >>>More than most people are capable of realizing, such noise.........................<<<<

        True, but people will be people, 'asleep or awake' , "the only real control anyone has ends at the end of their finger tips"

        Choice to join the "noise" or create something else, like this tribe.

        *** A lot of people will never evlove and become conscious****

        >>>that may be true, but they are still the .........................because that is the path of right action.<<<

        A good belief, but ones path is ones own. It is through our eyes being open only that we can hope to open others eyes. ( one step in evolution )

        >>>my eyes are open to what is going on<<<<

        I wasn't insinuating that they weren't.

        • I wasn't insinuating that they weren't.
          ---
          that part was unclear to me.
          -----

          Choice to join the "noise" or create something else, like this tribe.
          ----
          yes, thanks for noticing. i'm feeling a bit sensitive that way.

          honestly this is the hard thing about it for me is my consciousness moves like a bulb or bubble stretching to where chris is,
          and then back to other places towards some apparent middles towards just desging those permaculture arcologies.

          finding a balance between getting involved in fighting and not gettig sucked into negative energy cycles....

          well thats a key issue and problem.

          as much as we have talked about people specifically in this thread also makes me uncomfortable, i am much more interested
          in discussing the general because it stays applicable for others in the future, and doesn't dewll in drama.

          my path is to provide information and in some cases to stand up somewhat against misinformation.
          on the other hand, theres a point where fighting is simply not as productive as building something else.

          what you resist you still give energy to,
          what you fight you empower...
          in some ways thats certainly true on my end in terms of the perspective points i get studying the disease when i encounter
          trolls. My learning curve is definitely larger and faster than theirs is.

          there is good reason to hope that some people and some situations might wake up, and its better to try to wake people up than
          not to. Yes in most cases its presumptious and imposible, but, that doesn't mean one shouldn't try anyways.
          sanity is depth reality testing; knowing as soon as it is knowable wether or not a battle can be won and wether or not its worth
          commiting ones energy to.

          i don't like being on any side in the propaganda war,
          but i didn't declare the war, and i didn't pick a side.

          being a gray peice on a chess board as large as human paradigms is an interesting path, one that i have come to appreciate and in
          some ways enjoy. being either a black or white peice (and thus a pawn to whoever writes a given paradigm) is whats to be avoided.
          play both sides against the middle, seek the truth rather than promote any agenda. This can be hard to do since its easy to get attached to
          agendas subliminally. meditation and self exploration are critical in this, one has to be very good at critical introspection to make real
          sense out of the game and the noise.
          • Honestly talking about people, depends on the mood i'm in. Most of the time i'm not in the mood, but sometimes I like to just rip into others. I do realize that, that is my reaction to how I allowed them to affect me. (human nature).

            And I also expend a lot of energy in negative ways and manners. I try and keep my sanity by giving myself limits, by knowing and only risking what I am willing to loose.

            Whether a battle can be won, I belive can only bo determined by contribution. And again with each battle what is the limit that 'anyone' is willing to loose in the battles we choose.

            I have learning and coming to terms with the concept of contribution in the battles rather than the out come ' win, loose or draw '.

            Contribution in conflict, is a real reflection of ones self.

            You are far from being a grey peice.


            • Honestly talking about people, depends on the mood i'm in. Most of the time i'm not in the mood, but sometimes I like to just rip into others
              ------
              honesty is always nice. grok me a bit here. i am an aspie. i learned to read a textbook in a single sitting when i was eight.
              i have read thousands of textbooks. i don't give a rats ass about propaganda warfare, or egotism, god picked me to know more than
              other people by an accident of a wide and flat corpus collosum.

              i don't want to rip into others and was totally baffled by that human trait until i was able to read up on enough psychology and was able to
              put mob, pack, herd, and shadow psychology together with the brodmanns brain areas and come up with 1+!1+!+!1+!1+1=4/60 (or brodmmans 56 plus four.)

              i don't ever get into these moods that humanz do, i am a walking encyclopedia, i exist to serve humanities information needs.
              ------



              I do realize that, that is my reaction to how I allowed them to affect me. (human nature).
              -----
              sure, reptile brain emotional responses.
              -----

              And I also expend a lot of energy in negative ways and manners. I try and keep my sanity by giving myself limits, by knowing and only risking what I am willing to loose.
              ------
              schema are better than limits. That way your being creative instead of feeling boxed in.
              ----

              Whether a battle can be won,
              -----
              pan
              the better alternative is to end all battles demonstratively, which is whats on the agenda here.
              ----


              Contribution in conflict, is a real reflection of ones self.
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              pan, no, understand it doesn't have to be that way. infinite knowledge s just a playground once one opens halo access.
              theres nothing to fight over, the less you fight the better off you are.

              the only reason to fight is that human karma and human collective ecological and economic and political meltdown are not on
              par with each other. The only thing worth fighting for in this century is a world that our descendendts can breathe in without technological
              help.

              Things are going to get pretty bad pretty fast if we don't STOP and wake up and realize that fighting wars for oil isn't the answer.
              GEOTHERMAL POWER IS.

              Theres a potentiate for human interaction that is both reverential and celebratory and still collaborative without a single bit of combat or war
              or pack psychology. No arguments, no debates, no herd movements no propganda warfares here.

              why do any of that when i can just open that lotus before you?
              ---------------

              You are far from being a grey peice.
              ---------
              look a little closer.

    • WE HAVE BEEN TAKING A SHOT AT CREATING A RIGHT VIEW ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON..... BY WORKING WITH MUSIC AND COMMENTARY.

      We are just the people, exploited in our individual capacity and product of our lives. Our understanding of each other is our only real power because it is the key to our unity. Let that understanding return.

      Understand the "KEY-Truth In Artistry"

      Abandon the endless desire for temporary fulfilment of wants taught by the corporate managers and embrace the understanding of your, our needs that we share absolutely. End the dependence and find the freedom of unity with your brothers and sisters as you are together on earth.

      The great artists of Hip hop are explained and extended into truth beyond with the "KEY-Truth In Artistry"

      Will you be distracted by the corporate agenda manipulating you and using your life product, or will you be the downtrodden in the street with no options? New options of knowledge of how we can be unified and how the corporations ARE unified to exploit us can be our knowledge to use for our purposes. Understand and share your purposes with your brothers and sisters

      Be with the peoples revolution of knowledge by confronting the "KEY-Truth In Artistry"

      Corporate manipulations have made us worship images and made us crave different images to feel unique, special and as individuals. Corporations have taught us with media that those with different images are to be feared, ridiculed and resented. We all have the same needs and because the corporation have succeeded, now they have made us dependent on THEM, rather than cooperating with our brothers and sisters in this world for our mutual benefits.

      Cooperate with sacred knowledge, allow the knowledge of the unconscious mind with the "KEY-Truth In Artistry"

      We can triumph by just understanding how those corporations, courts and government agencies keep the secrets that have them colluding generation after generation unconsciously to dominate us and rule the material world. This simple knowledge of the unconscious mind used by indigenous peoples for centuries is what the Illuminati, the Masonic order and religion uses secrety to dominate. Simply by rejecting the fears that society promotes and understanding, this knowledge is ours, serving us.

      Be served by the truth of the "KEY-Truth In Artistry"

      Do you have needs? Do you have wants? Do you see that more is not better. Then you see that you need the natural world to be intact and whole. Can you accept that you need to have the peoples life product used to serve them and NOT a corporate agenda of global dominance and that working for such brings hope? Then understand that there are uses of the unconscious mind that have been made secret over the last 1,000 years.

      Assist the great artists of Hip to appreciate your appetite for truth and how it will serve you with the "KEY-Truth In Artistry"
  • How can we survive the end of a kali yuga? I really feel we have reached completion. But that doesn't mean we should all go out like myspacers and haters and lizard minds. Now is the time to practice truly. Thanks for keeping it true to the Guru Chris!

    It was refreshing to see how the tribe people have kind mind and "get it".

    I just found you all here and gotta catch up on the reading.

    Really great replies going on and good people to meet.

    Peace is not a word to play!