Didem?

topic posted Thu, December 21, 2006 - 10:57 AM by  Jye
hi, does anyone have info, or bio about the turkish dancer Didem?
I found a lots of her video on youtube, so I would really like to know more about her~
Thanks
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Jye
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  • Re: Didem?

    Fri, December 22, 2006 - 5:23 AM
    What I know is that she replaced Asena as the main star of the IBO-show a (daily?) Turkish TV-Show of the singer Ibrahim Tatlises. That she is a Turkish Gypsy girl, about 22 years old.
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      Sun, December 24, 2006 - 3:10 AM
      Pff. Tatlises show and himself is what we call as "Kro" in Turkish. It is a big fiasco that he is supposed to be the one making the dancers sort of "famous"..
      Just a thoguht..
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        Thu, February 22, 2007 - 4:55 PM
        about this topic, yeah, i still like her dancing, anybody any info of shows, dvd, and classes??
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          Sat, March 24, 2007 - 7:46 PM
          I'm another one who who appreciates Didem's dancing and would really like to find some contact information....I'd like to arrange to for her come to the U.S. to perform....I think the key is for someone who is Turkish who is willing to get in touch with the iBo tv show.....certainly they would have a professional or business contact for Didem....
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    Sun, April 15, 2007 - 12:09 AM
    I am another fan of Didem and would like to know more about her. I like her style...sorry I have no answers as to any details about her.
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    Sun, April 15, 2007 - 12:20 AM
    Here is a website with a little more info

    www.fotoajans.com/female_tu...kinali.htm

    Can anyone read turkish????

    arsiv.sabah.com.tr/2005/12/...-200.html
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      Fri, April 20, 2007 - 4:42 AM
      I read somewhere on tribe that Didem Kinali has been, like Asena, a student of Sema Yildiz. So to know about Didem's style it might be a good idea to contact Mishaal who just wrote that she hosted or participated in a workshop with Sema Yildiz recently, and ask her about style and influence of this teacher.
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        Tue, May 22, 2007 - 9:42 AM
        I just met some Macedonian Rom musicians who claim that Didem is Rom from Istanbul, Kasan Pasa, I think?? I'm curious whether she is a descendent of this old Ottoman dancer guild I recently heard about. I'm gonna try to find out more, too!
        • Re: Didem?

          Tue, May 22, 2007 - 9:48 AM
          Humm, * 1986 Gaziosmanpaşa doğumluyum - I'm thinking Gazi Osman Pasa, the same neighborhood I study in in Istanbul, and is she only 19??????
        • Re: Didem?

          Tue, May 22, 2007 - 9:57 AM
          "old Ottoman dancer guild "

          Interesting, where did you hear of this?

          btw, it's not surprising if she is Rom. I think many dancers have been.
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            Tue, May 22, 2007 - 3:09 PM
            She is Rom but I don't know about her ancestry.
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              Tue, May 22, 2007 - 4:44 PM
              Ok guys, I just translated one article before posted.. """She was born in Gaziosmanpasa (neighborhood in Istanbul) 1986. But, her childhood was in $i$li Ku$tepe (another neighborhood in Istanbul) and still her family lives there. Their house' walls all covered up with mirrors and she dances nonstop hours and hours until sunrise..She has elder sister and younger brother..She quit elementary school from 3rd grade. But, still thinkin to finish scholl and going to university...
              Her mother was a belly dancer too and her name is Tulay but she said that she only learnt how to play zil from her..All the time she was with her mother when she is performing..When the mother on a stage she is watching her and dancing on the tables. Her father is a drum player and his name is Zeki..They are Rom and she is proud of it. Her mother Selanik her father Yugoslavian immigrants..
              Didem met with Sema Yildiz when she is 13-14 years old.. Sema Yildiz directly offered to her dancing on the touristic clubs,,and she started to dance ..,. she was dancing 7-8 different place in a night....
              One day, she got offered to dance in some celebrity's wedding night,,and after that Ibrahim Tatlises heard how she is talented and asked her to join his TV Show, IBO SHOW.
              She is so gratefull to meet with Ibrahim Tatlises."""
              Cheers,,
              Burak
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                Wed, May 23, 2007 - 11:08 AM
                Her mother is Tulay? Is this the same Tulay that Artemis Mourat shows videos of in her workshops?? That's incredible. Those are some amazing genes she's inherited. That's one lucky girl.
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                Thu, May 24, 2007 - 1:04 PM
                I admire how fresh she looks when she dances considering that she has had a real hard working schedule from childhood on. She is young but even though she could have got tired of it. But then again, obviously it is just so natural for her. Do I understand you well Burak that she never had professional training? Not even by Sema Yildiz? In flamenco gypsy people often really grow into the art, but the elders teach them, too and they have to practise a lot, because the technical level that has been reached by dancers is generally high, and without regular training they wouldn't get far, they know that. But maybe she really is the "Picaso of bellydance" :-).
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                  Thu, May 24, 2007 - 4:02 PM
                  She is not mentioning about professional training in that article, just saying she met with Sema Yildiz when she was 13-14 years old.. Another thing, she wants to be different from other belly dancers,,She likes to put some indian(India), samba, cha cha dance figures on her performance. That's for sure, her life was dance, all the time, in every occasion, she was dancing. Also, she likes artistic gymnastic, that's why she is trying to improve flexibility skills..
    • Re: Didem?

      Thu, May 24, 2007 - 5:18 PM
      Yes, I can, though that would be pretty useless unless I was bilingual ;)

      Below is the translation of the article in sabah.com.tr website. Feel free to ask if you need Turkish/English translation or vice versa. On a side note, I'm not interested in belly dancing. Just joined to this tribe to lend a helping hand in Turkish language issues. Enjoy.

      --

      I'm Under Protection Courtesy of Mr. Tatlises

      Didem, known by many as the belly dancer of Ibo Show, raised much curiosity due to the talk-ban issued on her by Ibrahim Tatlises. Widely known by her smile while dancing, contrary to the serious expression worn by many others, Didem decided to breach the talk-ban and answered many questions about her for Yeni Aktuel Magazine.

      * I was born in 1968 in Gaziosmanpasa. Since I was raised in Kustepe, I'd rather say I'm from Kustepe (neighborhoods of Istanbul, t.n.) I have a brother and a sister. We are 'Romans' (oftentimes, 'Roman' people were attributed extraordinary talent in belly dancing and performing music for it, t.n.); mother immigrated from Saloniki, father from Yugoslavia. I spent all my childhood in Roman district, where we still live.

      * I dropped out at my third year in primary school, then began dancing. I needed to work, but I loved dancing too much. Everywhere in our house are mirrors. Sometimes I dance for 24 hours on a stretch. When I feel like it, I turn the music on and begin dancing. Also, there's this Roman tradition; they put cymbals under a newborn daughter's pillow so she becomes a belly dancer when she grows up.

      * I can't say I had a very happy childhood. I always wanted a bike but never had one due to financial reasons. I dropped out on my own decision, not my family's. I was a successful student except for maths. But I still want to study. I decided to complete my education. I'll even get a university degree.

      DISCOVERED IN A CONTEST
      * Dancing talent runs in my family. My mother, Tulay, is a belly dancer as well. My father is the drummer Zeki Kinali. My grandfater is a retired ud (a kind of lute in Turkish Classical music) artist. My sister sings in weddings. My mother only taught me how to play cymbals. But I remember very well when my mother used to dance for extra pay; I used to hold onto her skirt. Then, I used to climb onto a table, dancing there while she danced on the stage. I was very enthusiastic about belly dancing. When my teacher asked me what would I be when I grew up, I always answered 'belly dancer'. But I couldn't dance this well if I weren't a Roman. I'm proud of being one.

      * In wedding ceremonies, they called me to dance. Since my body is very flexible, my nickname was 'rubber-girl'. Now they call me 'Ibrahim's Belly-Dancer'

      * I met Sema Yildiz, a belly-dance instructor. 'Let's find you a stage' she suggested. I was 13 or 14 years old then. I got transferred from the night clubs of Avcilar to touristic venues in Taksim. I used to dance in 7 or 8 different venues in one night.

      * I danced at the wedding ceremony of a wedding contest TV show. Some epole who watched me then, mentioned about me later. Mr. Ibrahim told them to find me and call me. His agent, Eyup Kanat, contacted me. When he said Mr. Ibrahim wanted to talk to me, I thought someone was pulling a joke on me. When we met, I was very excited and drenched in cold sweat. All of a sudden, I found myself in Ibo Show. I stand witness to how a person's life changes in one day. What I was yesterday, what I am today, what I will be tomorrow...

      * I feel like the Snow White. Thank God. Thank God first, then thank Mr. Ibrahim. He is a person whose hands are to be kissed (an expression of respect and gratitude in Turkish culture; t.n.) In fact, even his feet can be kissed (an EXTREME form of expressing gratitude; t.n.) He's a boss who possesses and protects. I'm under protection even if I go to the other end of the world.

      * I never thought of working for him but I dreamt of it. I used to loathe myself as nobody noticed me. When I went up on stage, audience used to talk to each other, never bothered to look at me. I used to close my eyes and say to myself: 'Help me, God, to take the stage in a beautiful place, where everyone would watch and applause me'

      'IT'S HARD NOT TO TALK'
      * I try to distinguish my style from those of other belly dancers. I want to do Cha-Cha or Samba on the stage. I want to dance to the tunes of Indian music. My favorite is artistic gymnastics. Who knows, maybe if I did not drop out, I would be a gymnast one day.

      * Mr. Ibrahim issued a talk-ban on me as he wanted the people to remember me by my dancing. In fact, it was good for me. Everybody was curious about me, asking 'Who's this girl, where's she from, who are her parents?'. When I went to Germany, people asked me if I was a deaf-mute. It's really hard not to talk at all. People rumoured about me, saying 'She can't speak Turkish, nor has she any manners'. I asked for Mr. Ibrahim's permission to prove them wrong, he kept saying 'All in good time...'

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      • Re: Didem?

        Fri, May 25, 2007 - 2:04 AM
        She seems like a very sympathetic person. In a way, Tatlises' protection might be helpful because stardom can be dangerous - when there are wrong quotes, more rumours, the media really know how to stir it up and that could affect her. But it is right that she talks because he can't keep a lid on her personality forever. She might be so grateful she'd never ever quit. But I hope he doesn't try to own her.

        Rubber girl, I like that one. She's amazingly flexible.

        She should get the time so she can develop her personality, and if she wishes, to go to University. That would only help to make her a mature, multifaceted personality and grow as dancer. She is a talented human being, not a little machine where you press a button and she'll just dance, every night. She looks like she' s far from burnout, but even though, I hope she won't be just used. People should give something back to her. I wish her all the luck she needs.
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        Wed, May 30, 2007 - 4:18 PM
        Thanks for the translation. I am a huge fan of Didem and was trying to find some information on her, but had no luck.
        I have to agree with the others, her costumes are absolutely gorgeous. I am working on making a white outfit similar to one she was wearing in an isis wings performance... I'll keep you posted! : )
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          Thu, May 31, 2007 - 3:14 PM
          Sema told me that Didem has a new costume made especialy for her, from BELLA every week!
          how dreamy is that?!
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            Thu, May 31, 2007 - 4:59 PM
            Ohmygosh! Amazing, considering her humble background and passion simply to dance, it must be so surreal.
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            Fri, June 1, 2007 - 5:23 AM
            Wow! I thought they were Bellas'. Amazing, a new one every week. I'd never buy regular clothes again, I'd just walk arround in a Bella everywhere!
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              Fri, June 1, 2007 - 7:37 AM
              About Sema `Abla`, she is everyones Big Sister. Dancers in Turkey respect her so much because she has a lifetime of professional experience and she is very generous and loving to those she gets to know. In Turkey its not so much a matter of professional training (- well depending on the dancer i guess.) In Turkey, those who are destined to become stars, their talent is usualy innate, they may or may not have any professional training. But often a teacher is the one that sees this talent and knows what to do with it, she can bring it out, give advice and introductions. If Sema sees that someone has talent, she will go out of her way to help them, thats just how she is.
              ok now Im bragging, last month Sema called me, just to say hello and she was with Didem then, you can guess how I was wishing I could be there too!
              Yea, of course Didem needs a new costume for every Ibo show appearence! how wonderful.
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              Fri, June 8, 2007 - 11:28 AM
              Hmmm... I wonder what she does with her gorgeous outfits after wearing them. Surely, she cannot wear the same outfit twice for the tv program she performs on...
      • Re: Didem?

        Sun, June 24, 2007 - 9:08 PM
        Alchemist,

        I posted your translation in Didem's tribe now, so now you can share this with them.
        Thank you!!!! =)
  • Re: Didem?

    Wed, May 30, 2007 - 6:32 AM
    does anyone know who is didem's costume designer? and also who can teach me how to use tribe.net...like how can I post my own topic.
    sorry....I am not good with computer
    Thanks a lot
    • Re: Didem?

      Wed, May 30, 2007 - 2:47 PM
      When you see the Turkish Style tribe's main page (click on this link if you don't know how to get there: tribes.tribe.net/turkishstyle ), look at the left hand side of your screen. Just below the pictures on the upper left hand side, you'll see an orange button that reads 'post a new topic'. If you click on that, you'll be presented a screen to create a new topic of your own. Send me a private message if you need further assistance. Yes, I'm good with computers :)

      As for Didem's costumes, I have no information.

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