I have so much love for people. I look around and want to give love to people. But it doesn't work with myself. I often have this feeling that something is wrong. Something is wrong with me. I am " fine" . Healthy, in school, new job, new car, nothing is wrong. And yet it's there. This anger or sadness. This " my parents failed me and I will never be loved" . It comes back even at the best of times. It's extreme self-doubt, self-criticism.
I feel better than I have in a long time, then I start feeling scared again. I dont know if it's depression . It doesn't feel like depression. Why can't I love myself ? Why can't I feel like I deserve to be loved? Why do I stay so upset for so long after someone betrays me? Why do I take it so personally? Why can't I feel good about all my accomplishments?
I feel better than I have in a long time, then I start feeling scared again. I dont know if it's depression . It doesn't feel like depression. Why can't I love myself ? Why can't I feel like I deserve to be loved? Why do I stay so upset for so long after someone betrays me? Why do I take it so personally? Why can't I feel good about all my accomplishments?
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Re: Why can I love so much and not be able to love myself?
Sun, March 2, 2008 - 3:27 AMas: I often have this feeling that something is wrong.
Every body gets that feeling. The Buddhists even have a word for it - dukkha - unsatisfactoriness, suffering.
It may help to remember that feelings don't necessarily mean anything. They aren't rational. That kind of feeling feeds on your attention, fear and dislike of it. This can create a feed back loop making it seem worse than it is.
The traditional method of working with it is to learn to notice it for what it is, a feeling, and thus remove the fear and dislike that feed it; and, to learn to focus your attention so that it dissipates. No though or feeling can maintain without your attention. If you turned around and saw a car coming straight at you, the feeling would instantly disappear because you have more important things to occupy your mind.
However, jumping in front of cars is hard on the driver so people have worked out other methods.
The one I like focuses on the fact that this feeling is really just a distraction. In this case it is a distraction from living your life. So the practice is to create a very boring task. Let that cause the mind to throw up distractions and then practice refocusing on what you are doing.
A traditional task is to just sit and watch a rock. Now, you'll be tempted to examine the rock, but the task is just to watch it. Start some where between 5 and 15 minutes and just sit and watch the rock. If you are like most people it won't be 5 seconds before your brain rebels and starts trying to think about things. As soon as you notice you are distracted, gently go back to the rock. You be distracted again, go back to the rock. You'll remember something important; go back to the rock. You'll feel silly, want to do something else, have an itch, feel sad, feel happy, unfold time and space...as soon as you notice you are distracted, gently go back to the rock.
Just 5-15 minutes every day. The every day bit is more important than how long you do it, but don't get hung up on it. If you miss, realize that is just another distraction and start back in.
After a while you'll notice when some distraction is messing with you and you'll start naturally refocusing on what you are doing and who you really are. -
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Re: Why can I love so much and not be able to love myself?
Sun, March 2, 2008 - 9:48 AMyeah. I know it just a feeling, it comes and goes. I panic with it sometimes, other times it just passes over me.
I have a 6 hour drive ahead of me, from Pheonix to LA. That will occupy me for a while, see some nice secery too. I'll stop at Joshua Tree national forest and take some pics. -
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Re: Why can I love so much and not be able to love myself?
Sun, March 2, 2008 - 5:25 PMI've made that drive a couple times. The wind mill farm always seems to sync with my music.
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Re: Why can I love so much and not be able to love myself?
Sun, March 2, 2008 - 5:34 PM<<< I feel better than I have in a long time, then I start feeling scared again. >>>
it can get to be a habit asch. we think a certain way our whole lives, it wears a pretty well established path in our heads... a friend of mine told me, 'it took you a long ime to walk into the forest, it may take a while to walk out...'
you've been practicing a new way of being for a little while now, a handful of months, and doing amazingly well. sometimes when things do go so well, our old thinking can get bored, or something, and try to start pulling us back into the same old groove... it become a habit, but thats all it is...
and everyone is subjec to it. it happens to the best of us. what changes is 1) frequency, and 2) depth. over time, it happens less often, and we dont have to wander so far into it, give it so much time and energy. we dont have to get lost in it.
i'll tell you a trick that i picked up along the way. may sound goofy but it works for me, almost every time. when i get feeling funky, i imagine seeing myself through the eyes of god... thats it. and that perspective reminds me that im not just what i think, or what i see, or even what i believe, but im something much different than that, something much more, much bigger...
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Re: Why can I love so much and not be able to love myself?
Sun, March 2, 2008 - 6:15 PMI had a wonderful drive in my new car to LA. I looked at lots of rocks, huge ones, hills and mountains of rocks and thought how long they have been there. And how little my time has been here comparitively. I took some pics of me and my new car and the mountains. I like the windmill farm too.
If god were looking down on me, she would be proud. I keep walking, no matter what. I keep trying to connect, tell my truth, feel love.
I have so much to be thankful for, a mom that can get a new new car so I can have her car, school, health, etc..
A new way of thinking yes. It's been good, I have a part of me back that I lost for so long, so glad it wasn't lost forever. I was scared that I was going to be depressed and "abandoned" forever. But I am really coming out of the forest now.
I very much care about a few people who are still in the forest, I want to pull them out. I have to love and wait for them to walk out themselves. They can do it. I will be there on the other side for them when they are ready.
Thank you Jeff and swarm for the support. I just need to see it , hear it sometimes. Put it all out there. And when things are changing so rapidly for me, I need a bouye of sorts . Thanks again. -
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Re: Why can I love so much and not be able to love myself?
Fri, March 14, 2008 - 3:49 PMone cannot truly love anyone untill you learn to love yourself.
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Re: Why can I love so much and not be able to love myself?
Sun, March 16, 2008 - 11:30 PMthankyou Jeff...since you wrote this..I have thought about it alot and shared it with others and at times also done exactly this...when I hear the critic..I remember...seeing myself as God created me...divinely beautiful for just BEING.....;0) xx
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Re: Why can I love so much and not be able to love myself?
Fri, March 7, 2008 - 10:03 PMH Aschleigh, are you afraid of being hurt?
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Fri, March 7, 2008 - 11:28 PMyes I am adraid of being hurt. It happens often, so I am not so afriad that I don't let myself try and then get hurt. But certainly I have some fear about getting hurt. -
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Re: Why can I love so much and not be able to love myself?
Sat, March 8, 2008 - 9:08 AMHere is something I find helpful in reminding me what it means to love myself -- it's from a talk on Huna Principles (Hawaiian spiritual wisdom) by Serge Kahili King:
"One of the most wonderful ideas of this knowledge comes in a word that you've already heard, which is ALOHA. Aloha, which is so often taken to mean hello and good-bye. And it is used that way. We speak of the spirit of aloha which is so often taken to mean friendship. And it is friendship. But it is more. More than friendship, more than hello and good-bye, Aloha means love. Pure and simple, this is the meaning of that beautiful word. Love.
"And even deeper within the word is the meaning of love, which is To be happy with. To be happy with something or someone, this is the great discovery, the most marvelous secret of this knowledge that was discovered by these people. That to love is to be happy with. To the degree that you are happy with yourself, with other people, with the world around you, you are in love. And love is being expressed, and love is flowing. But to the degree that you are criticizing, to the degree that you have anger, are not pleased with, do not like things in people around you, you reduce and diminish love. So that love has nothing to do with pain. Love has nothing to do with hurting people or being hurt. Love is the happiness in any relationship. Love is the happiness and the joy and the friendship and the pleasure in any relationship. Because to love is to be happy with."
www.namastecafe.com/lori/huna_prin.htm
So, to love yourself means to be happy with yourself -- and that means to focus your attention on the things that make you happy with yourself, because "Energy flows where attention goes" -- (another Huna principle).
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Re: Why can I love so much and not be able to love myself?
Sat, March 8, 2008 - 3:10 PMFrom my perspective feelings mean everything. It is my temperament to feel things deeply. I've asked exactly the same hard questions you are asking now because of how I feel. Feelings prompt us to self-reflection so they mean a lot. There is nothing wrong with you. It may just be that your sensitivity and sadness is a clue to what is most lovable about you. Anger, sadness, self-doubt, self-criticism are messages from your deepest self that must be honored, rather than merely symptoms to be gotten rid of. You are asking the right questions. Self knowledge brings healing. It is hard to love someone you don't know very well.
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Re: Why can I love so much and not be able to love myself?
Sat, March 8, 2008 - 3:20 PMFrom my perspective feelings mean everything. It is my temperament to feel things deeply. I've asked exactly the same hard questions you are asking now because of how I feel. Feelings prompt us to self-reflection, so they mean a lot. There is nothing wrong with you. Every thing we feel and experience is valid. Your sensitivity and sadness are clues to what is most lovable about you. Anger, sadness, self-doubt, self-criticism are messages from your deepest self that must be honored and really explored, rather than merely symptoms to be gotten rid of. You are asking the right questions. Self knowledge does bring healing. It is hard to love someone you don't know very well.
The perfect parents (and society), if there were such a thing, would raise children to know and value themselves ~ strengths and weaknesses. Usually that is not how it goes. We get messages about who we are that are not very accurate. We internalize them at such a young age that we are barely aware they exist within us. And yet they have tremendous unconscious influence over how we relate to the world and to ourselves. It takes time and effort to figure this stuff out. Its not that you are flawed somehow, you've just got some exploring to do, which can yield a lot of really great things. -
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Re: Why can I love so much and not be able to love myself?
Sat, March 8, 2008 - 4:43 PMIt's true , the more I know myself, the more I love myself. I have met some people who have very little self knowledge, and they don't love themselves much. They are only running away from themselves, which doesn't work actually.
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Re: Why can I love so much and not be able to love myself?
Sat, March 15, 2008 - 9:33 PMI would suggest seeing a five element acupuncturist. It can help bring peace and harmony to body mind and spirit.
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Re: Why can I love so much and not be able to love myself?
Sun, March 16, 2008 - 12:12 AMJust do it.
Right now.
DON'T THINK ABOUT IT!W
Right now: just love yourself......love love love YOU ARE AWESOME.
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Wasn't that easy?
Here's a poem I wrote (fyi: we all go through that conflict)
Maps 3/8/08
I stopped at the light and was asked, “Who are you?”
I had no good answer, so I stopped and I spread.
As the light changed, my answer had not.
This continued throughout all of Manhattan.
How many blocks, how many areas, must one traverse,
To find out that one never had an answer.
Only a destination.
Which doesn’t exist except in the future.
Oh beauteous future!
Oh Bright, charming dove!
Oh listful, longing yearning!
Oh day that at once will come!
But it doesn’t, so I don’t…
Just keep longing for the incredible.
And trade favors for maps of lies.
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Re: Why can I love so much and not be able to love myself?
Sun, March 16, 2008 - 10:36 PMYou know I am loving myself. I am taking care of myself. I am getting my homework done with is key to feeling good for me right now. I am taking out the garbage and doing the dishes. I am rolling with the punches and trying new things. I am dating a lot and not feeling weird if I don't feel any real sparks, it's still a nice night out. I just finished the most in depth 9 page paper I have ever written. I meeting with a career counselor type women to see what I want to do once I have my masters. I keep going, one foot in front of the other. -
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Re: Why can I love so much and not be able to love myself?
Sun, March 16, 2008 - 11:53 PMit's "BE GOOD TO ASCHLEIGH TIME" - that's all you have to remember.
one foot in front of the other, one day at a time, head held high.
oh yeah, with a smile.
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Re: Why can I love so much and not be able to love myself?
Mon, March 17, 2008 - 12:27 AMand a bar of dark chocolate with real dark red cherry in it....in your back pocket...;0)...
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Re: Why can I love so much and not be able to love myself?
Mon, March 24, 2008 - 8:14 AMLike anything else it takes practice. A wise person once said "act as if... and eventually you will be...".
I get a lot of my wisdom these days from the Toltec teachings of people like Don Miguel Ruiz. In these teachings they keep things very simple and leave it up to each of us to accept ourselves as perfect beings of love and light energy. If we are perfect then it follows that we can love and trust ourselves.
Sometimes the simplest of concepts can be the most difficult to understand. They also believe that we have parasites living inside us that feed off of our fears and insecurities. These parasites talk to us all the time and can trick us into doubting ourselves if we let them.
I am learning to be aware of my parasites and am working to ignore them when they tell me to be afraid or to hate myself. I have a long way to go but I know I can get there eventually.
Good luck on your journey.
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The Guest House
Fri, March 28, 2008 - 1:44 AMThis being human is a guest house.
Every morning a new arrival.
A joy, a depression, a meanness,
some momentary awareness comes
as an unexpected visitor.
Welcome and entertain them all!
Even if they are a crowd of sorrows,
who violently sweep your house
empty of its furniture,
still, treat each guest honorably.
He may be clearing you out
for some new delight.
The dark thought, the shame, the malice.
meet them at the door laughing and invite them in.
Be grateful for whatever comes.
because each has been sent
as a guide from beyond.
-- Jelaluddin Rumi,
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Re: The Guest House
Fri, March 28, 2008 - 8:51 AMWhat amazing timing! This poem is exactly what I needed to read this morning. -
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Re: The Guest House
Fri, March 28, 2008 - 9:48 AMYou could be into you but you don't know what you're like
yeah.....you would be into you but you don't know what you're like.
Downtown Venus
I'm Downtown Venus, And I'm trying to be by myself.....myself
Habitual dreamers, And no one dreams enough to get me home
I'm Downtown Venus, And they're trying to divine my self.....myself (and they keep saying)
(chorus)
You could be into you but you don't know what you're like
yeah.....you would be into you but you don't know what you're like.
I'm Downtown Venus, And it's alright to kiss my life.....my life
I got misdemeanors, Mounting up for sleeping on the 'nows'
I'm Downtown Venus, And I can't get behind my worth....my worth (but they keep saying)
You could be into you but you don't know what you're like
yeah.....you would be into you but you don't know what you're like.
I'm downtown Venus, where simplicity is always hurt....always hurt
I can't stop screamin', 'cause I'm failing to entertain all of my selves
I'm Downtown Venus And I constantly remind myself....myself
I could be into me but....I don't know what I'm like
Yeah...I could be into me but....I don't know what I'm like.............
~PM Dawn
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