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What keeps us from moving into a deep and profound peace is our lack of
TRUST. Trust is the key to liberation.
For those on a spiritual or religious path, the idea that a
higher power is in charge of your existence is not a new concept.
So why then are you questioning your journey? Why are you second
guessing your life? Having faith or belief is simply not
enough. Trust is absolute. One's faith can be tested. Your
beliefs can be challenged. Trust comes from the heart and is
rooted in a deeper level of consciousness. It comes from a
profound place of knowing that you are divine and that your life
is happening in divine order. In any moment of frustration,
agony, sadness or fear you can bring trust into your experience
and expand your consciousness. For example when you are
frustrated that life isn't going the way you think it should,
instead of continuing on this destructive path of frustration,
simply breathe and acknowledge that every experience is unfolding
in divine order. In consciously doing this practice, the stress,
the worry and the fear will dissipate. Complete trust allows you
to simply enjoy the ride of your life knowing that with the
Divine in charge you couldn't ask for a better driver.
Jesus, Buddha and Krishna lived a life of complete and total
trust. Trust has the ability to propel you into complete
realization and opens you up to a life filled with peace and
authentic surrender. Trust removes the worry and fear from life
and brings absolute clarity. Practice the principle of trust.
As you do you will witness your life transform before your eyes.
Allow the Divine to lead as you relinquish control. Follow
lovingly the path that unfolds before you. This is the path to
your freedom and the map to your road home. Trust your Self.
You know more than you think you do. In the presence of the
light, nothing but the light can exist.
TRUST. Trust is the key to liberation.
For those on a spiritual or religious path, the idea that a
higher power is in charge of your existence is not a new concept.
So why then are you questioning your journey? Why are you second
guessing your life? Having faith or belief is simply not
enough. Trust is absolute. One's faith can be tested. Your
beliefs can be challenged. Trust comes from the heart and is
rooted in a deeper level of consciousness. It comes from a
profound place of knowing that you are divine and that your life
is happening in divine order. In any moment of frustration,
agony, sadness or fear you can bring trust into your experience
and expand your consciousness. For example when you are
frustrated that life isn't going the way you think it should,
instead of continuing on this destructive path of frustration,
simply breathe and acknowledge that every experience is unfolding
in divine order. In consciously doing this practice, the stress,
the worry and the fear will dissipate. Complete trust allows you
to simply enjoy the ride of your life knowing that with the
Divine in charge you couldn't ask for a better driver.
Jesus, Buddha and Krishna lived a life of complete and total
trust. Trust has the ability to propel you into complete
realization and opens you up to a life filled with peace and
authentic surrender. Trust removes the worry and fear from life
and brings absolute clarity. Practice the principle of trust.
As you do you will witness your life transform before your eyes.
Allow the Divine to lead as you relinquish control. Follow
lovingly the path that unfolds before you. This is the path to
your freedom and the map to your road home. Trust your Self.
You know more than you think you do. In the presence of the
light, nothing but the light can exist.
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Re: Trust is the key
Sat, June 20, 2009 - 2:13 AMI try to see trust as not being about how other people behave but as about how I relate to other people. In other words its an opprotunity or even largess I'm offering them which is more about how much I can trust than it is about whether they can be trusted. How they respond is them saying what level of trust they are comfortable with.
This results in an aim high environment where people can prove themselves trust worthy and often do and apposed to an aim low environment of mistrust where everthing is sucked down to the lowest common denominator.
Sure sometimes people "take advantage" of it, but really that is for the best. They tip their hands early over trivial things and the good people shine that much sooner. -
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Re: Trust is the key
Sat, June 20, 2009 - 2:25 AMI think "trust" comes with understanding and acceptance..and that is a process..I certainly would'nt be sitting there thinking oh it's all ok I trust that my baby dying is all part of the divine plan...when it has just happening or happening.. -
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Re: Trust is the key
Sat, June 20, 2009 - 3:38 AMI don't believ in that sort of providence. -
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Re: Trust is the key
Sat, June 20, 2009 - 9:02 AMI trust life more than I trust people. I trust that life will take the untrustworthy people out of my experience. I trust that I will have good feelings to guide me with people who I can trust. -
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Re: Trust, Love, and Nonviolence
Tue, June 30, 2009 - 4:14 PMShakespeare said ( in approximate quotation )
"Love everyone, hurt no one, trust a few."
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Re: Trust is the key
Wed, July 1, 2009 - 12:30 AMI agree with you swarm, but
it is not always easy to see the deceivers
until they have already milked you;
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Re: Trust is the key
Wed, July 1, 2009 - 2:44 AMOn the journey of life, we choose who we share that journey with, and we trust those with whom we walk.
Buddha and Jesus took the path of transcendence so that we could see the way... and we can trust entirely in their experience, their guidance, and their compassionate, unconditional love.
With humans... no matter who we choose to trust, sooner or later we will lead each other astray ... but that too, is part of the path of life.
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Re: Trust is the key
Wed, July 1, 2009 - 10:55 AMThe trick is to trust others, to trust your own instincts and to continue to allow ourselves to be vulnerable even after we have been milked by someone. We must do this, even as we set up and enforce boundaries that serve and protect us, because only when we let our guard down can we achieve deep intimacy with others and rebuild trust in Trusting. We must risk being hurt. If we never trust anyone, we cannot have our trust restored.
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Re: Trust is the key
Wed, July 1, 2009 - 12:24 PMi like that - rebuild trust in trusting- working on that one now
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Re: Trust is the key
Sat, July 11, 2009 - 6:18 AMWell said Ca, trust in your instincts, but trust in yourself as well
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Re: Trust is the key
Sat, July 11, 2009 - 5:04 AMtrust is not the key to liberation.
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Re: Trust is the key
Sun, July 12, 2009 - 1:12 AMYes, we choose who we share our journey with.
Jesus took the path of transcendence did he? .......We can trust entirely in his experience can we? His guidance...........compassionate , unconditional love?
THAT love is very conditional, my friend. "Jesus" speaks to us only through 2,000 year-old text that none of us can absolutely identify as authentic. Apparently, he/it left us to our own devices.I trust entirely in NO ONES experience. As you so accurately put it, "no matter who we choose to trust,sooner or later we will lead each other astray"
You answered your own question. Trust is not the answer,justice is. Justice is the most absolute balancing factor,because we lay obstacles before ourselve without even realizing it. Justice is the 180. It is correcting that which we have already fucked up.
Yes, a form of enforced morality is absolutely the key to liberation
One must enforce ones self to think and act virtuously for the sake of ones self and for the sake of all others. If our "kind" is to ever reach a higher form of enlightenment we have to push ourselves to transcend the narrow boundaries within which we live on a daily basis. To trust is only a piece of the puzzle. We have to take command of our own fate, and many of those around us are not trust-worthy.
We can't simply sit around peering out at life through rose-colored glasses mis-believing that simply trusting will turn things around. The world as we know and experience it doesn't work that way.
Justice is not simply a result. It is a process in itself that can take a lifetime to achieve
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Re: Trust is the key
Sun, July 12, 2009 - 1:22 AMEnforced morality? Enforced morality is justice? The Taliban tries to enforce morality. So do certain politicians, especially conservatives. Is that the key to peace? Is that justice? And who is to define justice? Who is to define what is moral? A court? The same court who would murder someone for committing murder? An individual? I bet every individual has a different interpretation of justice. There are people right now sitting on the border between Mexico and Texas ready to shoot men, women and children for stepping foot on U.S. soil. They will tell you they are doing it for justice.
If the key we are looking for is the key to peace, I would say that key is Love. True justice, in my opinion, is Love in action but Love is still the key. At least in my humble opinion. There is no real justice without love. -
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Re: Trust is the key
Sun, July 12, 2009 - 2:50 AMThe Taliban are mindless,senseless bafoons obsessed with an ideal that is full of more holes that a block of swiss cheese. "certain" politicians are short-sighted fools almost absolutely with their own,selfish, less than honorable objectives in mind.
I am not foolish enough to ,as pesky politicians (conservative and liberal alike)are , to stand before an audience and "sell" what is justice and what is moral for the sake of appearances. I have little faith in courts to define justice or morality because they often fall short.
Of course every individual has a different interpretation of justice. Subjectivity is the disease of our race and justice,either way, has different faces.
Love can move mountains,but it won't disarm a land-mine
Love is instrumental, but vengeance is the vessel
At least, it is for me
Unconditional love is beautiful because you can love a "fallen one" such as a child molester..........even as you pull back the hammer, with the barrell in their mouth -
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Re: Trust is the key
Sun, July 12, 2009 - 4:16 AMWhen we spend our time looking at the mindless, senseless bafoonery of others, we become angry, judgmental bafoons ourselves. There is only one place where true freedom comes from, and that is within us. Call is soul, call it spirit, call it knowing... whatever we wish. The moment we play a part in partitioning humans into groups... religious, racial, economic, political... we have become the separators, and the reason that humans fight each other... over our differences.
We need to spend our time understanding what unites us, not what divides us... and we can only do this with an open heart, patience, and an authentic listening to what others feel in their own hearts. If someone puts a gun in my mouth while I am doing this... so be it...
The only justice... is the result of our own actions... and if we choose to have enemies... we become the enemy. -
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Re: Trust is the key
Sun, July 12, 2009 - 6:28 AM"When we spend our time looking at the mindless, senseless bafoonery of others, we become angry, judgmental bafoons ourselves. There is only one place where true freedom comes from, and that is within us."
Horatio, well said once again, and true indeed. You know, I was about to write a blog piece about someone who used to be close to me here on Tribe (not this one however), who completely lost my trust when we were together, who is now posting things which are not quite true, and I read this from you. Two sentences could not be more true. This really made me think, step back, and realize that yes, I would be the buffoon myself to even bother thinking about, let alone posting something. Thanks for your insight..... -
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Re: Trust is the key
Sun, July 12, 2009 - 6:45 AMI would suggest you resist reading it too. By doing so you do not allow them to take a slap at you. You are hitting yourself with their words. Hit the ignore button and do not read their posts. That's the loving way to protect your Self.
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Re: Trust is the key
Sun, July 12, 2009 - 6:46 PMBeautifully articulated Horatio
Yes, true,natural freedom comes solely from within. You will find no arguement from me on that. But, I have taken no part in any partitioning,personally. By recognizing the many divisions among us, we become the separators? I believe we become a potential vessel for change,not a contributing factor to the problem . Are you suggesting that we ignore these issues in faith that racial,political,economical,religious,spiritual and all other forms of separatism will simply......vanish?
What unites us Horatio? -
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Re: Trust is the key
Mon, July 13, 2009 - 12:33 PMZayne: What unites us Horatio?
We are united by love... love of self, love of family, love of community, love of earth, love of everything that is common.
What divides us are love of one nation over another, economics and wealth, identifying ourselves as better... racially, or religiously.
I certainly wouldn't say we ignore these differences, but in fact embrace them, and seek to find within those differences the source of sameness that they flow from. The more we understand and respect differences, the greater the chance we can come to love those who are different.
I'm just not sure where rage comes into play. Do I feel rage at events that happen in my life. Sure, we all do, and we need to acknowledge it. Do I act out on that rage towards another... I try very hard not to.. but instead to be with the rage, and seek wisdom from within that comes from accepting it.
Perhaps I am misinterpreting your meaning Zayne... on your profile, the picture of the guy beating the other guy over the head is rage in action... and I can never see value in that.
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Re: Trust is the key
Mon, July 13, 2009 - 1:07 PM'rage' is just a specifically defined vibration ~ without judgement, it is one color of the rainbow spectrum
love all-ways,
mem
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Re: Trust is the key
Sun, July 12, 2009 - 6:43 AMI have trouble following your logic. Vengence is the vessel? Only in V for Vendetta. Love can disarm land-mines. Many people leading the movement to stop the use of land-mines, a movement that is working in many places, do so because of love. Many people who risk their lives to do that work also do so because of love.
I find your last sentence most troubling of all. I don't know why someone would shoot themselves while loving yet judging someone else unless they lacked enough love for themselves to spare their own lives. That is not unconditional love. That is depression and sadness and anger. And that method of "justice" sure didn't' lead to peace, which is what I believe the point of this thread was. -
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Re: Trust is the key
Sun, July 12, 2009 - 7:20 PMOnly in V for Vendetta" Seriously? Only? You must not get out much. Hey, you forgot Batman.....oh,what about that "Taken" movie? Eh? Plenty fo vengeance in there.
My logic isn't particularly difficult to follow
Who said anything about someone shooting themselves? I sure didn't. You're just ready and willing to dissaprove aren't you? A sentence that was so troubling,yet you didn't really read it closely enough.
I said that you can love an individual that has caused irrepairable damage,such as a child molester. That even as you ensure that they will never harm another child again and put an end to their life you can still have sympathy for them as a troubled individual who was either unwilling or unable to correct theirself. There is no judgement at that point, only justice because a psychologically destroyed child is unacceptable, any way you look at it.
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Re: Trust is the key
Mon, July 13, 2009 - 6:36 AMOh "their mouth". I thought you said, "your mouth". My bad. Totally different meaning.
As for the V for Vendetta comment, I was making an alliterative joke. Pardon me. I do get out. I just don't watch most violent movies.
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Re: Trust is the key
Tue, July 14, 2009 - 11:51 PMJustice is subjective darling. You say killing a child molester is justice? I say feed them to the wolves in prison, no protective custody? What might the child consider justice? Would there be any?
Is trust liberation? Seriously? Trust in what? Our fellow man? Religion? Government? Non profit organizations? Art? Music? Really? And how will you feel when this trust is broken over and over again? Will you keep on trusting?
Truth is liberation. Self truth, that is... If I know and accept myself for everything i am. I am free to live and love without projecting and placing my self worth into my relationships with anyone and anything. Hence, deluding myself... what can possibly be more constraining than self delusion?
You want liberation? Look inside and liberate yourself.
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Re: Trust is the key
Wed, July 15, 2009 - 2:18 AMStacy
The trust that is being spoken by the creator of this discussion is ... Trust in the divine, trust in God. Just answering your question in your post. -
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Re: Trust is the key
Wed, July 15, 2009 - 6:10 PMWhy thank you Heratio.... may i ask another question? Where might one find this God we speak so much of? ;)
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Re: Trust is the key
Sat, July 11, 2009 - 11:27 AMjustice is, to me, a morality issue, about fairness or balance.
i don't see how it would be the key to liberation, at least from a personal perspective. it's a result, not a process, no?
i'm not sure i think trust is the key either, though it certainly is a powerful stand to take, to trust in yourself being the most important. but justice is, to me, something that involves moral judgments, and i'm personally pretty certain that some kind of enforced morality is not the key to liberation. -
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Re: Trust is the key
Sat, July 11, 2009 - 3:29 PMI think it's just love... nothing more... when we add more dimensions, morality, trust (and I get the point of this thread very clearly and love it), justice, democracy.... we just create complexities that nurture the mind's ego... rather than the simplicity of the heart... the simplicity of love.
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Re: Trust is the key
Sat, July 11, 2009 - 8:01 PMThere's too many holes here. "Trust is the key" is yet another faulty blanket statement.
>"It comes from a profound place of knowing that you are divine and that your life is happening in divine order."
Knowledge often time is the result of thought, but "being" your own divinity has more to do with "non-thought" then thought itself. So what good is the mere knowledge of "knowing that you are divine and that your life is happening in divine order" unless you are actively being that divinity?
>"Trust has the ability to propel you into complete realization"
I wonder how many people achieved Enlightenment as a direct result of "trust?" - besides from "trusting" ones guru.
Horatio is closer to the bullseye with "I think it's just love... nothing more..."
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Liberation comes from within. "We ask no one else to liberate us, only we can free our minds."
Wed, July 15, 2009 - 10:27 PMRe Zayne
"Yes, true,natural freedom comes solely from within."
This is straightforward and really the main point of the Buddha's teaching.
Liberation comes from within.
It has been said, by Malcolm X and Bob Marley, that
"We ask no one else to liberate us, only we can free our minds."
They're right.
KT
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Trust is the Key for Liberation ?
Thu, July 16, 2009 - 7:53 AMHello ! Great and insightful posts! Thank you. :D
Trust in french is "Confiance". I have always been fascinated by the french word because it gives a message there is not in the english world. In Confiance there are the words "Co"- and "Faith". It points out the idea of an Union of Two faiths. Two beings, two Minds, two hearts and so on..
Trust is an exchange of counscious energy between two Consciousness. In my opinion Trust may be a mean "to liberate" one self but it is not different from Faith. It implies only that Two Faiths and not only one are engaged in the process of "Liberation".
Now about the topic Liberation implies that you are a prisoner.
I believe that we have the choice (Free will) to see the world we live in either as a hell or a paradise. We were given the choice to see our earth experience as hell or paradise.
You can feel imprisoned even while you are outside walking in the streets of your town or you can feel free even in a physical prison like many enlighted people experienced.
Before, I thought I was a prisoner of that world...but I understood quite rapidly the only prison that existed was only in my head.
I can spend time alone in a room for days, and I will not feel like my life is a prison, because with my mind and my heart I have learned to see beyond the walls of my room.
Frustration, doubt, despair all those feelings are a part of our progress. Looking at them as little lessons don't threaten our inner peace anymore.
It's not because the peaceful ocean is moved by a storm that it will stop being itself. Once the storm has passed, the ocean is peaceful again. So should be our nature.
Talking about Liberation implies we believe we are a prisoner. So I am wondering "what are we prisoner of ?"
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Re: Trust is the key
Thu, July 16, 2009 - 8:50 AMMy dad always said, you start from trust. How do you do that? You just do it, and if they betray you, you remove your trust.
Thats it.
You can't stop the impulse of fear, its part of what you need to survive, but you give it meaning, and your past inst the truth of a new moment to trust and discover good in a person or moment.
You may get hurt, but you will win more in life by starting from trust regardless of your past.
