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Love Language

jjp216 — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:28:59 GMT

I'm in a relationship with a man that shows love but has never said that he loves me. After going through some personal trials recently he told me of his stress. Because I love him I told him that if he needed for us to be apart so that he could work on himself we could separate. He was heartbroken that I said that. He told me that I hurt him to his core. I was only loving him enough so that he could become whole but he feels as if I were turning my back on him. I know that men and women speak different love languages and communicate differently. How could my honest and innocent gesture be so misconstrued? Actually it was very hard for me to tell him that because I DO love him, enjoy being with him and to not be with him would devastate me. How do I make this situation right? He now feels "numb" to my love....what do I do?

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Caroline — Tue, 13 May 2008 15:09:51 GMT

Manifesting Unconditional Love in Romantic Relationships

Uniting in a romantic parntership is an opportunity for manifesting the greatest love; unconditional love. Your partnership/marriage is sanctified and consecrated when you invite Spirit to be with you. By so doing you are dedicating yourself to continually choose loving every day; within yourself, in all your relationships and in your romantic partnership.

Loving is a choice. It is the choice to call on Spirit. It is the choice to move to what is higher in your relationship, even in difficult moments. It is the choice to support, care for, listen to, and have compassion and understanding with your partner. Choosing loving when you are in the “honeymoon phase” is easy, but how do you choose loving when you confront differences? How do you use those differences to grow your relationship? How can those differences lead you to even greater loving?

Choose loving.

So how do you choose to love when you find yourself in a major disagreement with your spouse or partner? Maybe you disagree on lifestyle, politics, maybe even what movie you going to rent tonight? When there is a disagreement there are often negative emotions that follow. For instance you want to watch a movie and your partner wants to watch baseball. Maybe you find yourself saying, “He always gets to watch baseball!” That thought leads to feelings of irritation or anger. Now you are not feeling very loving toward your partner. Left unspoken this disagreement can lead to resentment, which later can blow up into a full-blown fight.

You can return to the choice of loving by noticing (becoming aware of) any negative thoughts and emotions as soon as they arise. Ask yourself, “What need of mine is not being met?” Practicing loving toward yourself by acknowledging your deep internal needs. Then find a strategy that will meet your need to, for example, sometimes be able to share a movie and sometimes fulfill your partner’s need by watching the baseball game with him. You negotiate for both person’s needs until you feel peaceful inside. This is not compromise. Compromise leads to someone not feeling fulfilled, rather find a strategy that fulfills both person’s needs.

Loving is a conscious choice. You choose loving by simply making an agreement with the different aspects of yourself; your mind, your emotions, and your spirit, that you will relate to your partner from a state of loving as best as you possibly can, and learn to be more loving each moment. Loving is a choice to be made consciously moment.

Reflection

What is loving? To know how to love and choose love, you must first recognize the loving “state of being”. How does loving feel? When you can know loving and maintain it-- then you can grow.

We only have one word in our English language for love, an experience so vast, rich, deep and multifaceted that it cannot be defined using a single word. I experience love as a state of acceptance, peace, caring, compassion, understanding and wanting the well-being for myself and others. Define love for yourself. Take some time to contemplate loving and how you recognize it.

I find that love is infinite and, as I attune myself to its energy, spirit and power, it continually reveals something new about itself. I add to the reservoir of loving that I am rekindling inside myself, for loving is our natural state and we have only to reestablish its place in our lives.

One way to inspire (inspirit) yourself to greater loving for yourself and in your relationship is to think of a time when you, without question, knew your heart was open and you were in a state of loving. Perhaps you felt that buoyancy and bliss when you were with a child, or a pet, or in nature. Using a past reference to reconnect with loving is like turning on a light switch in a dark room: once the light goes on you can explore the architecture of the room.

You might want to start your day with a statement such as “Today I choose loving with myself and my partner.”

Be open to the strength and power of loving.

As I have traveled, talking to people about loving as a practical approach to living life, I have often heard people express their concern that if they are loving with others, they are vulnerable to becoming a doormat or getting taken advantage of. Somehow, in our American culture, being loving has acquired the connotation that it makes you weak and puts you at risk of being hurt (with the underlying illusion that being hurt is one of the worst things that can happen). And many of us have been hurt in relationships, when our love has not been returned, when we have allowed our infatuations to cloud our practicality and good judgment, when our partner has changed direction in life and we have not followed (or vice versa). But it is not love that has caused pain, it is the shattering of our illusions. When this happens, even if the relationship withstands our disillusionment, we mourn our loss. We often do not realize that losing our illusions, while painful, is necessary for our growth, as individuals and as partners. But, when things do not turn out as we had hoped or fantasized they would, we must heal and grow.

Reflection

One of the greatest obstacles to unconditional loving is our human tendency to hang onto our illusions. We have all watched friends or other loved ones go through difficult times due to their desire to have their romantic relationships fulfill their fantasies, or support cherished illusions, (even if we don’t always remember to apply these lessons to ourselves). Some common illusions are: Once I have a partner, I will always be happy; my partner will be my constant companion in all things; if my partner disagrees with me, she doesn’t truly love me.

When we have the courage to confront our illusions and let go of them, that is when we have the courage to be unconditionally loving in all our relationships. What illusions are you holding onto? How are they blocking your ability to be “real” with yourself and with your partner? Are you ready to let go of them and to step forward into unconditional loving?

One of the best ways to heal from a relationship that didn’t work out the way you had hoped is to ask yourself, what did I learn? How did I grow? How was this experience necessary to becoming the person I want to become? How can the things I learned in this experience assist others? By learning and growing through any situation, you are tapping into the power and strength of loving and using that for the upliftment of yourself and others.

Unconditional love, what does it mean?

Unconditional love means that sharing your love does not depend on how you are treated, your partner’s actions, or how you are feeling and what you are thinking. For instance, if your partner does not come home on time (a condition that may be important for you in your daily routine) — or substitute any behavior you don’t like -- that doesn’t mean that you withdraw your love or emotionally separate yourself from them.

So, what if you feel angry or frustrated by your partner’s behavior, do you just love them anyway? Yes, and you communicate your feelings and needs. Taking personal responsibility for your feelings and needs, expressing them, and staying in your heart are actions necessary for being unconditionally loving.

You take care of yourself, which means honoring and validating your own needs, which fills you up inside, then you have the presence of mind and heart to share in the overflow of love, with your partner.

You have heard it before… you must love yourself first. But how?

Make sure you are deeply listening to your needs and validating them. Too often, we hear ourselves say something like “I really need more quality time with Jim.” Then the next thing we do is tell ourselves that we shouldn’t want that or don’t want to burden him, or in some other way we invalidate our needs. If we continue to ignore our needs, negating them, pretty soon we are spiritually and emotionally depleted, which can lead to resentment of our partners, yet they don’t even know what we want!

The best way to head off feeling hurt or angry with a partner is to continually take an internal inventory of our own emotional, mental and physical needs, validate them and ask for what we want (not necessarily expecting that we will get it, but at least expressing it). Painful emotions are symptoms of deeper needs that are not being met. Often, all it takes is validating and expressing our own needs to experience internal peace.

I have a friend who apologizes to his wife rather often, not for anything in particular. He tells her, “I want to apologize in advance for anything I may do that may be hurtful or not measure up”. This usually produces a lot of laughter between them and deepens their connection with each other.

Communication, Communion

Communicating is the connection between two human beings. Communicating deeply means sharing the intimacy of your heart -- be it sharing our deepest concerns and feelings, expressing acknowledgement and appreciation for each other, or reaching out physically and affectionately to our partner. In expressing ourselves to our partners and being open to their expression, we find our true communion of spirit. Nothing is better than that.

How can you foster and enliven communication?

Set aside special, sacred, uninterrupted times where you can dedicate yourselves to talking and sharing from your hearts. You can choose a topic to discuss to get the ball rolling:
something that you both care deeply about,
an activity you both love,
what you might like to create in your home,
how you might like to spend leisure time,
your dreams for your lives together,
how you want to grow,
what you want to learn.

Make sure you include time to communicate about what you want to improve in your relationship. If something is bothering you, talk about it before it escalates. I’ve noticed that when things become uncomfortable, people tend to ignore it or look the other way. This doesn’t create connection; it creates a hidden separation. Eventually, the issue will raise its ugly head, no matter how you try to suppress it. I suggest weekly partner and, if you have children family, meetings.

Practice deep listening. My image of deep compassionate listening is a heart with ears. When you listen, listen with your full attention. Avoid the temptation of thinking up an answer while the other person is talking, giving advice or to saying “that reminds me of when…”. Be present. This means not being in your head thinking of the next thing you are going to say. Acknowledge what the other person is saying. Empathize with them by saying, ”you must feel…” . When you acknowledge the things you have heard your partner will also know he is heard. There is no greater connection than really hearing your partner and acknowledging the thoughts and feelings underneath his words.

End every communion time with what you appreciate and love about your partner. If you are not used to this, it may be awkward at first but believe me, it doesn’t take long until expressing what you love and appreciate about one another becomes easy and wonderful and deepens your state of loving.

Using relationships to grow as a human/spiritual being.

I’ve heard it said that relationships can be like sandpaper, rubbing off the rough spots. One way to view the process, of growing and learning, that relationships generate is to notice the dovetailing patterns that often arise. For instance, you have an issue with being abandoned while your partner has an issue with losing her freedom. This manifests by your partner going out with her friends after work and not calling you. You feel hurt and angry because you take this as abandonment and rejection. You express your anger when your partner eventually does come home and then she feels angry because she starts to think that she is trapped and can’t have her freedom and be in relationship with you. One issue dovetails with the next.

I’ve never known a couple that didn’t have dovetailing patterns. It’s amazing how perfectly the issues seem to bounce off one another.

Recognize that relationships offer many excellent opportunities to grow, and if you experience emotional imbalance, anger, and/or hurt, see it as a symptom of an issue that is ripe for resolving. Be grateful for the experience. It’s not the issue, it’s how you handle the issue.

When an issue that is ripe for resolution arises, take the time for introspection and examination. You can approach this in several ways. When I discover a place in my consciousness that needs healing, I first ask for grace. Sometimes that is all I need. But sometimes I need a personal understanding of the origins of the issue. When resolution needs more work, I use the process to produce compassion for myself and others.

Selflessness in Relationship

Putting your own desires aside to be with your partner is one of the greatest gifts you can give. I had a dear friend come to visit me last summer. He loves football. One evening after dinner, I noticed him reading the TV guide, but soon he put it down and asked me if I wanted to go for a walk to the video store and get a movie. We did and had a lovely evening. The next day, as I was reading the paper, I glanced through the sports section and realized that there had been an exhibition football game on TV. I mentioned it to him and said “You took me for a walk and a video when you really would have liked to watch that football game, didn’t you?” He just kind of smiled. He had put his own desires aside to give me an evening he knew I would enjoy much more than watching a football game. I felt so touched. It was a demonstration of loving I will never forget.

What do you have to offer? I’ve noticed, with singles wanting to manifest their “dream partners”, they have their wish lists. How about adding a list of the qualities, skills, and heart that you have to offer your partner? What are you happy and eager to give to them and to your relationship?

In order to be selflessly loving you must be fulfilled inside yourself and give from your overflow. If you give out of wanting something in return, needing approval, or keeping score, eventually that kind of giving will lead to resentment and conflict. When you have handled and openly expressed your own internal needs, the loving can overflow and you can quite naturally put yourself aside at times and give to your partner out of the fullness of your heart.

Call on Spirit

Spirit is the third party in your parthership, yet Spirit doesn’t inflict itself in any situation, so you must invite Spirit to be a part of your relationship.

Pray and meditate together. There is nothing quite so beautiful than to pray and meditate with your partner. Especially when differences arise, ask for the presence of spirit to love and guide you in all that you do, but don’t wait for difficulties. Make time to do this every day.

Dedicate your relationship to Spirit. You know those couples with whom you just love to be around. They just exude loving, peace, happiness and well-being. Perhaps they are those who have dedicated their lives and their partnership to Spirit. Maybe they haven’t done it consciously but they demonstrate a life in which love is at the center.

Contribute. One of the greatest things a couple can do together is to take on a project of contribution. This might be volunteering together in the community. You could create your own service project together, like gathering clothing for those in need, adopting a family at the holidays to provide a food basket, coaching a kids’ soccer or baseball team … together, together, together.

When you consciously step on the path of loving, your relationship can be fertile ground for learning, healing, growth, expansion and even greater loving. Your relationship can be a demonstration of spirit and loving in action, a partnership that contributes to the world.

A relationship of unconditional loving flourishes when you claim your dedication to Spirit as the third person in your partnership. As you open to an awareness and willingness to use everything for your growth and upliftment, joy and understanding will grow and deepen. As you direct yourselves toward unconditional love, the two of you will be of great and fulfilling service to your family, your community and the world.

Your relationship can be a foundation of companionship and sharing that can be a source of joy and happiness for your life and the lives of those around you.

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Why does it come and go?

hipstorian — Thu, 08 May 2008 06:05:58 GMT

... the flow?

Moments of surrendered, open-hearted blossoming.
Many more months of closed, tight, pain.

Memories of the open seem to make the closed-feeling all that more... constricted.

I don't know how to make the pendulum stop swinging to and fro.

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Insightful Love

Visheka — Sun, 04 May 2008 17:15:21 GMT

Cast far in the distance from home and comfort
Attempting to find my place in this world
Having to look within for strength
I must dig deep and long
For reasons past unhealed
I am confronted with my own demons
I fear I am my worst enemy at times
Why must I be so hard on myself?
Why must I seek perfection that only exists in spirit?
I crave for true acceptance
And have been chasing this need in yearning
That seem to reveal this longing needs to be healed
I stare myself in the mirror focussing on imperfections
It suddenly dawns on me how harsh I've been
My soul so pure
So full of Love
So sensitive to all of life's beauty
I was blind to my own
I am beautiful
Why couldn't I see?
Why do I berate myself and destroy my own spirit?
The nurturing and love I seek
I can provide tenderly
The emptiness in my heart washed away with relief and hope
I look forward to loving me

Bless you all!

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Have you ever freaked someone out with your love?

aschleigh — Tue, 11 Sep 2007 04:34:10 GMT

Ok, here's the scenario: You love someone and you love them so unconditional , so deeply that it freaks them out.
They think it's weird , maybe they haven't experienced unconditional love. Maybe there were raised to think they should only be loved if they lived up to certain criteria. Or that it was somehow stupid to try to love , or believe in love or believe in fairly tales like real Love?

Here's a somewhat related quote
"Fear often originates from a sense of not being in control. We use control to manage people and situations that we do not understand or that threaten to expose our lack of self-love. If we accepted people and situations for what they are, we would be back to the universal definition of love - which is,
"Love is the opposite of fear".

Ok, Discuss.

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Candle in My Window - for Tibet

April — Fri, 02 May 2008 16:02:34 GMT

www.facebook.com/event.php

Please take a look if you don't know about this peaceful protest already.

www.SilverSunbeam.etsy.com

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I am begining to think it's NOT all my fault

aschleigh — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 18:22:36 GMT

So I started dating this guy. He came on strong, he gave me flowers, and cooked me breakfast , all in the first 2 weeks. And I thought it was great. Then he freaked out, said he was uncomfortable and didn't think we should date.
My usual thing here would be to blame myself. I went too fast ( we both did) . I asked for too much, etc..
And then I stepped back a bit . I liked the attention. I wanted to hang out but I wasn't asking for more than that. I was already feeling blamed for the state of the relationship. I have since backed off.
It is really hard for me to love myself in these situations. I think " Did I do something wrong? " . But I have come to the conclusion that I didn't. Even if I did, it's forgiveable. I think I am getting the hang of this " there is nothing inherently worng with me " . He was prjecting a whole bunch of issues on me, that weren't there in those 2 weeks. It's disapointing, but possible better to know now that he's not there. Not ready to meet me as a human being, beyond our " Issues", I know I have terrible abadonment issues, so I hold too tightly , too soon.
But I am done with him. No holding here.
Any thoughts?

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differentiating b/w forgiveness and acceptance

kimsan — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 13:22:22 GMT

I am REALLY trying to forgive some people who were incredible harmful to me as a child and I am having a hard time separating forgiveness from acceptance of their actions. I know all the "hold them in love" stuff, but I really cannot get there. Any thoughts?

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Loving myself

Platypusman — Tue, 08 Apr 2008 19:23:16 GMT

How do you do it?

I am going through a very difficult time right now as I just broke up with my girlfriend of the last five years. I am trying to let go and to not obsessing on my loss but it is really hard. I want to love myself but a voice inside myself is telling me that I made a big mistake and I am not worthy of being loved now.

There must be a trick to loving yourself even under the toughest of circumstances. If you know what it is I would really like you to share it with me.

Thank you.

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Thank you UL

trinsic — Tue, 01 Apr 2008 08:25:40 GMT

I just wanted to thank all of you in this tribe. Everything that I have learned here has been an enormous help in awakening me to my purpose. I have learned more here from the thoughts and feelings expressed in various ways, then I have in my whole life. I want you all to know that we are all working together to create something that is much greater than our selfs.

With all the pain and suffering in this world, Eventually something has to give, love has to give way for space to be created that brings change.

Things have changed in my life for the better, looking back I realized that it wouldnt have been a reality if I hadent really taken a good hard look at where i was at, and where i was going. I feel like this tribe has help me do that. I respect the power of love now, more than ever.

The universe has given me a relationship with someone with a very big heart, and she has helped me see where i need to improve. I dont think it would have happend if I didnt hear someone say to me that what important is inside a person instead of whats on the outside.

Thanks guys,

Trinsic.

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What is Unconditional Love?

Parvati — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 06:46:31 GMT

One's original state of being, free from all limitation, judgment and definition.
In this state, one steps into the freedom of the larger view, which offers acceptance and allowance for how oneself and others are choosing to grow. This is unconditional love.
- author unknown

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Why can I love so much and not be able to love myself?

aschleigh — Sun, 02 Mar 2008 06:02:05 GMT

I have so much love for people. I look around and want to give love to people. But it doesn't work with myself. I often have this feeling that something is wrong. Something is wrong with me. I am " fine" . Healthy, in school, new job, new car, nothing is wrong. And yet it's there. This anger or sadness. This " my parents failed me and I will never be loved" . It comes back even at the best of times. It's extreme self-doubt, self-criticism.
I feel better than I have in a long time, then I start feeling scared again. I dont know if it's depression . It doesn't feel like depression. Why can't I love myself ? Why can't I feel like I deserve to be loved? Why do I stay so upset for so long after someone betrays me? Why do I take it so personally? Why can't I feel good about all my accomplishments?

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my friend was murdered...

Parvati — Sun, 02 Mar 2008 07:27:36 GMT

I had a beautiful fairy friend....
She was a shining spirit - full of life and creativity....
But most of all - she was the embodiment of Pure, Unconditional Love....
She loved everybody - always smiling - always saying "hello Love", "goodbye Love"...
Always singing "Love, Love, Love"....
Her life was a work of art and her being was pure inspiration and joy....
I loved her - everyone she ever met loved her....

Then I found out she was brutally murdered....
She was in Asia - home alone - someone tried to rob her - she fought back and was stabbed to death....
Grief, shock and disbelief overcame me....

I could not get my head around it - I could not believe that this could happen to one of the most wonderful people on this earth....
she did not deserve to go like this....
I could not imagine the fear and terror she must have felt with her last breath....
the thought of it made me physically ill....

I understand that we all must die....
and yes, it's tragic that she had to pass - her time had come - etc....
But NOT like this - how could someone so peaceful and full of unconditional love and light suffer her last day of life like this....
This can not be the way - this is just not fair - this can't be the way the universe works - it just can't.....

A week had passed after I heard the news...
I couldn't come to terms with it....
I was listening to a Pema Chodron discourse on audio....
I was deep in a meditative state...
Then Pema Chodron said "whatever you choose to be aware of - the universe will serve up the opposite to help you become more aware...
if you want to practice patience - the universe will give you irritating situations so you can become aware of your impatience....
if you want to practice mindfulness - the universe will give you mind-less situations so you can become more aware...."

At that moment I received a download from the universe....
My friend was murdered because she believed in unconditional love.... she WAS the embodiment of Unconditional Love...
so she was killed in the worst way in order for her soul to practice and forgive and unconditionally love her killer....
This was her soul lesson...
If she did - her soul would not come back to this earth plane as a human - but ascend to the next realm of Angels and Muses....
The universe always unfolds for our greatest good - to bring our souls closer to source....
The universe only gives you what you can handle.... and her soul must have been so close to pure that she could handle it....
otherwise it wouldn't have been so....

This was the message I received....
and at that moment I felt like I understood....
and an awesome presence of peace came over me....
"she can do it" - I thought... she can transcend....!
I wholeheartedly believed this message - I truly believed that she was liberated from the mortal bondage of death and re-birth and that she has now gone to somewhere higher - where her love and light could do so much more profound work than on this human realm...

Today they found her killer....
he sold the things he had stolen from her home for $300...
that was all her life was worth... 300 dollars....
And instantly, that peace I had felt before vanished....
Instead I heard a voice in my head telling me that what I had realized before - what I thought was a download from the universe - was just my mind's way of rationalizing this heinous crime.... because I could not emotionally handle her death....
The voice said that there is no justice in this universe....
and that my friends death was just a cold, cruel, accident - it could happen to anybody - it just happened to be one of the most precious creatures on the planet....

If this is true - if there really is no rhyme or reason - if it just happened to be wrong place - wrong time - then I am not sure I can go on...
Then this whole world is pointless.... and everything is just random....
and there is no use to try to love - to try to help - to try to heal....
if this could just "happen" - then there is no karma - no wrong or right....

I want to believe that what my insight from the universe revealed was real - that there is some sort of order to this universe - some sort of soul evolution - some sort of kind universally all-loving spirit that guides us for our highest and greatest good....
but my mind is telling me that it's just a big rationalization and that the universe just exists - it is indifferent - and doesn't really care one way or the other...
it just goes on....

I don't know which one is real anymore...
I don't know what is real anymore...
I don't know what the point of this existence is....

I am feeling confused, cynical and a bit schizophrenic by all of this....
any insights from this tribe will be a great help in helping me to sort this tragedy out and come to some sort of terms....
Thank you for just letting me blurt this all out...

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URGENT! PLEASE HELP TIBET! SIGN THIS PETITION!

JuBaL — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 22:03:01 GMT

URGENT! PLEASE HELP TIBET! SIGN THIS PETITION!
PLEASE REPOST!

> Dear friends,
>
> After decades of repression under Chinese rule,
> the Tibetan people’s frustrations have burst
> onto the streets in protests and riots. With the
> spotlight of the upcoming Olympic Games now on
> China, Tibetans are crying out to the world for
> change.
>
> The Chinese government has said that the
> protesters who have not yet surrendered "
> will be punished". Its leaders are right
> now considering a crucial choice between
> escalating brutality or dialogue that could
> determine the future of Tibet, and China.
>
> We can affect this historic choice--China does
> care about its international reputation. China’s
> President Hu Jintao needs to hear that the ’Made
> in China’ brand and the upcoming Olympics in
> Beijing can succeed only if he makes the right
> choice. But it will take an avalanche of global
> people power to get his attention--and we need
> it in the next 48 hours.
>
> The Tibetan Nobel peace prize winner and
> spiritual leader, the Dalai Lama has called for
> restraint and dialogue: he needs the world’s
> people to support him. Click below now to sign
> the petition--and tell absolutely everyone you
> can right away--our goal is 1 million voices
> united for Tibet:
>
::: SIGN THE PETITION! :::
http://www.avaaz.org/en/tibet_end_the_violence/6.php
>
> China’s economy is totally dependent on "
> Made in China" exports that we all buy, and
> the government is keen to make the Olympics in
> Beijing this summer a celebration of a new
> China, respected as a leading world power. China
> is also a very diverse country with a brutal
> past and has reason to be concerned about its
> stability -- some of Tibet’s rioters killed
> innocent people. But President Hu must recognize
> that the greatest danger to Chinese stability
> and development comes from hardliners who
> advocate escalating repression, not from
> Tibetans who seek dialogue and reform.
>
> We will deliver our petition directly to Chinese
> officials in London, New York, and Beijing, but
> it must be a massive number before we deliver
> the petition. Please forward this email to your
> address book with a note explaining to your
> friends why this is important, or use our tell-a-
> friend tool to email your address book--it will
> come up after you sign the petition.
>
> The Tibetan people have suffered quietly for
> decades. It is finally their moment to speak--we
> must help them be heard.
>
> With hope and respect,
>
> Ricken, Iain, Graziela, Paul, Galit, Pascal,
> Milena, Ben and the whole Avaaz team
>
> PS - It has been suggested that the Chinese
> government may block the Avaaz website as a
> result of this email, and thousands of Avaaz
> members in China will no longer be able to
> participate in our community. A poll of Avaaz
> members over the weekend showed that over 80% of
> us believed it was still important to act on
> Tibet despite this terrible potential loss to
> our community, if we thought we could make a
> difference. If we are blocked, Avaaz will help
> maintain the campaign for internet freedom for
> all Chinese people, so that our members in China
> can one day rejoin our community.
>
> Here are some links with more information on the
> Tibetan protests and the Chinese response:
>
> BBC News: UN Calls for Restraint in Tibet
> http://news. bbc. co. uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7301912.
> stm
>
> Human Rights Watch: China Restrain from
> Violently Attacking Protesters
> http://hrw.
> org/english/docs/2008/03/15/china18291.htm
>
> Associated Press: Tibet Unrest Sparks Global
> Reaction
> http://ap. google.
> com/article/ALeqM5gSSpPcDOPMoAiRLhPUyezuCRiXBQD8VFDD680
>
> New York Times: China Takes Steps to Thwart
> Reporting on Tibet Protests
> http://www. nytimes.
> com/2008/03/18/world/asia/18access.html?ref=world
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Extracts from ELIXIR DIVINE, by Gurudev Sri Swami Sivananda

Lummis — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 21:01:25 GMT

Extracts from ELIXIR DIVINE

by Gurudev Sri Swami Sivananda

'I am the body' is ignorance. 'I am Pure Consciousness' is wisdom.

Religion is philosophy practiced in life.

Prayer is lifeless when there is no faith.

Wisdom dawns when names and forms vanish.

'Be Yourself' this is wisdom.

When the Divine virtues increase,
the mind will recoil from pleasures of the senses.

Purified by the fire of wisdom one attains the state of God.

With every experience you evolve a little.

Pride of renunciation is more harmful than pride of wealth.

Religion is the realisation that man, in essence, is God.

Fogs of worldly obscure the vision of God.

Begin each day as if it is the beginning of a new life.

Work done for the individual binds;
work done for the common good releases your soul.

Every little action has its effect on character.

The more we feel the presence of God, the more free we are.

Thy heart is the sanctum sanctorum. Install the Lord there and worship Him.

Love is its own reward and joy.

Creation is the appearance of the Lord, Who is one, as many.

Sow the seed of self-discipline. Water it with love.
Fence it with the Lord's Name. The tree will yield you the fruit of immortality.

Love is the healing stream of life.

Get up at dawn with His Name on your lips.
Do your duties with His Name in your heart.
Retire to bed with His Name on your lips.

Love alone can cure all the ills of life.

The lower mind is your enemy and the higher mind your friend.

Embrace poverty, chastity and humility.
You will attain immortality and eternal peace.

Make God your guide when you walk on the path of life.

When all desires of heart die, mortal man becomes Immortal.

Without prayer there is no purity.
Without purity there is no meditation.
Without meditation there is no illumination.
Without illumination there is no salvation.

He knows the world who knows God.

Brahman is the thread on which are strung all the worlds and all the beings.

Association with the wise is the root-cause for eradicating all misery.

The key to the gateway of perfection is purity.
The key to bliss is meditation.
The key to wisdom is Enquiry.
The key to Divine Ecstasy is devotion.

God generates, permeates, sustains, absorbs the universe.

He who hears the music of the Soul, plays his part well in life.

Love looks not with eyes but with heart.

Aim of spiritual life is not merely to know about God but to become God.

Check the outgoing tendencies of the mind and direct them inward.

Man is a bridge between the two worlds - the visible and the invisible.

Nature is the art of God.

A sage's look is a spiritual fire that burns the impurities.

Vanity makes one blind.

Be patient with others but impatient with yourself.

God reveals Himself in different ways at different stages of evolution.

A saint is the mightiest hero; for he has broken the unbreakable chain of Karma.

The elimination of ego is the sole condition of Self-Realisation.

God is the essential Truth in man.

We have in us the infinite possibilities of the Lord.

Fix the eyes on the feet of the Lord and direct thy hands in the service of humanity.

Bondage and liberation exist not in the Self but in the mind.

Repeat Hari. Never worry. Seek and find.
Feel and realise. Assert and Affirm. Aspire and Inspire. Move forward and Godward.

He who sows generosity, reaps love Divine.

God is a great artist. This world is his Masterpiece.

Love beautifies the giver and elevates the receiver.

Virtue is the offspring of wisdom.

Purity is the gateway to the kingdom of God.

Destiny is powerless before Divine Grace.

What is the greatest joy that never becomes distasteful? That is the bliss of the Self.

Meditation without dispassion is a wasted effort.

Life moves by faith alone. Without faith all will perish.

Religion is the art of re-modelling man into divinity.

Close the gates of the senses. Shut the door of the mind.
Light the lamp in the inner chamber of thy heart and
stand face to face with the Lord.

'God is in Heaven';
'The kingdom of God is within you';
'I and my Father are one'.
These are stages of spiritual attainment according to the Bible.

He only is advancing in life whose heart is getting softer,
whose blood warmer, whose brain quicker and
whose spirit is entering in living peace.

Sow love, reap peace; sow humility, reap reverence;
sow meditation, reap wisdom; sow prayer, reap grace.

Where there is no selfishness there is peace, joy and illumination.

Temptation is the test of spiritual growth.

Names and forms are many but the underlying consciousness is one.

OM is the matrix of all sounds and words.

Prayer and meditation are the food and water of the soul.

Mineness is the cause of all pains and sorrows.
Mineness is the essence of Maya.

Compassion is Divine Power.

A sage does not reject anything, does not crave for anything,
does not acquire anything, and does not renounce anything.

Humility draws in Divine Grace.
Faith draws in Divine Grace.
Surrender draws in Divine Grace.
Prayer draws in Divine Grace.

Develop faith, practice humility, pray regularly, and
surrender unconditionally unto His Will.

Divine Life bestows happiness, blessedness, goodness and godliness.

Behold the Light that lighteth everywhere.

You can develop will-power if you do what the mind
does not want to do, and do not do what the minds wants to do.

Remain unaffected by the ever changing mental Vrittis
by identifying yourself with the unchanging Self.

Let your eye look with kindness, your tongue speak with sweetness,
and your hand touch with softness.

Yield not to Tamas and Rajas.
Stick to Sattva. Get yourself rooted firmly in Samadhi.

Discontentment regarding wealth and pleasure causes one untold misery.
Therefore, be content with what you get by chance.

Let Dharma underlie your quest for enjoyments.

Have constant contact with your mind and intellect
through the eternal laws of God. The alone your life will have some meaning.

God walks with the simple, reveals Himself to the humble,
gives understanding to the noble, and hides himself from the proud.

Sadhana is the effort. Siddhis are the effects. But Self-realisation is the goal.
Practice rigorous Sadhana till you attain that Supreme Goal.

Prayer is the greatest and most efficient antibiotic to kill the germs of evil Vrittis
that germinate in the mind. Therefore pray regularly.

Love is the moving principle of all forms of fellowship. Love redeems.
Love transforms. Love purifies. Love promotes understanding.

God is with those who persevere patiently, and put away all earthly anxieties.

Life in spirit is real living.
You will lag behind if you depend upon your bodily life.

Glorious is the world of God around us but
more glorious still is the world of God within us.

Thoughts of God cheer up the body, mind and spirit. Names of God soothe the nerves.
Love of God bestows peace and joy. Knowledge of God breaks the fetters of Karma.

Peace is the fruit of fervent prayer.
Joy is the fruit of generous sharing.
Bliss is the fruit of intense meditation.

Wherever there is ignorance, there is neither faith, nor devotion, nor wisdom.

True satisfaction and contentment are attained only by a saint.

Objects do not bind you, but it is the desires that bind you.
Therefore annihilate desires.

Mineness is the fuel with which the fire of ignorance burns.
Stop the supply of fuel and the fire will be extinguished.

Karmas cannot be annihilated. They must be worked out.
But you can change your angle of vision by attaining wisdom
and detach your mind from their effects, good or bad.

Entertain noble, divine thoughts. You will have noble,
divine speech and perform noble divine actions.

Learn to see God everywhere. This is real food for the eye.

You can see better, hear better, taste better, think better,
when you entertain sublime, divine thoughts.

You are not a creature of time in the material universe.
But you are the spark of divinity. Assert this and roam fearlessly.

Mind turned inwards becomes the self, and mind turned outwards becomes the world.

Faith induces one to pray. Prayer purifies the heart.
In the purified heart is reflected the Light of the Lord.
When the light shines mortal becomes immortal.

Eradication of evil qualities in you is just like dusting away the dirt on a mirror.
When the dust is removed you can see the beauty of your face in the mirror.
When evil qualities are eradicated, you can see the beauty of the Self in your heart.

Desire of sensual pleasures keeps you tied to this world.
Grow the wings of Bhakti and Jnana and fly to the eternal abode of everlasting peace and joy.

Wealth lost can be replaced by work. Knowledge lost can be regained by study.
But time lost, can never be regained.

Be like a river. Dirt and filth of cravings and desires will be poured forth into you
from either sides. But by the constant flow of the water of devotion you will remain pure.

What sunshine is to flowers, prayer is to humanity.

Sorrows are like hunger, caused by spiritual starvation
and will be relieved only by spiritual food.

As sleep is necessary for the well-being of the body, so solitude at home
is necessary for the well-being of the soul.

Push out the king of lust, hatred and passion who has usurped
the throne of your heart and invite the righteous and rightful
monarch of love, purity and peace.

Wisdom never dawns upon the mind which is under the control
and mercy of desires and expectations and is destitute of contentment.

The mortal sheath craves for gratification of desires; the Spirit imposes discipline.
The mortal sheath is extrovert and noisy; the Spirit is introvert and silent.
The mortal sheath is subject to moods, but the Spirit is always peaceful.

There is no such thing as a bad man. Recognise the truth in him
and help him express it.

Those who are suffering now would know that they are reaping what they have previously sown, and by sowing good deeds now they can in future reap
a rich harvest of happiness.

Objects are only reflections in the Eternal Supreme Consciousness.

Just as rays of the sun are invisible but capable of illuminating objects,
Consciousness though invisible, illumines everything.

Perfect bliss is unconditional.

Just as we exist during the dream and survive the dream, so also
the Lord exists during the creation and survives after the dissolution.

Essence of Vedanta is Self-realisation.
Essence of Yoga is union with God.
Essence of Bhakti is communion of the Sakti with Lord Siva.

Every moment in the waking state that is free from thought is a state of Samadhi.
It is unnoticed because it lasts only for a fraction of a second.

When the beast in man perishes, the God in man manifests.

It is better to suffer loneliness than to be in evil company.

Prayer is the mystic bridge built across the gap between God and man.

No one can go through life without making mistakes.
Do not brood over the mistake. Repent for it; the forget it,
but remember the experience gained.

Happiness comes from within. It cannot come from without.

Happiness is in one's own Self, and not in objects.

Happiness comes when the individual merges with God.

Glossary

Bhakti: devotion

Brahma: God

Hari: The Hari Mantra, singing

Jnana: Transcendental Wisdom-Knowledge

Mantra: Sacred Name or Sound

Rajas: mode of passions (Fire&Water)

Samadhi: State of enlightenment

Sakti: Universal Feminine Energy

Sattva: mode of goodness (Air&Spirit)

Tamas: mode of ignorance (Earth)

Vrittis: Mind-Stuff, thoughtforms

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it's all in love...

SpiritAsJeff — Sat, 09 Feb 2008 20:18:41 GMT

Within love is all that is needed for every person to heal. We don't always know which parts of love are needed where, so we get to bring the whole thing, love as a complete thing, and offer it to everyone each day. The universe and each individual will figure out which parts of that love to accept and apply, or not. That's not our job, to figure out the details, necessarily. Our job is to continue to hold it all, and everyone, in love. Within that love is patience, and understanding, and kindness, and also tears, and the willingness to be with each other in the pain. It's all in love.
SpiritAsJeff

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CAN YOU LOVE SOMEONE WHO CANNOT LOVE THEMSELVES?

aschleigh — Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:05:45 GMT

My experience is that when I have tried to love someone who didn't love themselves ( lots of destructive behavior, inauthenticity, dishonesty)
that they actively rejected the love.
It was also the other way around. When I was so depressed, angry, insecure , I actively rejected the efforts of people to love me. I felt like I knew I was loved but couldn't feel it, couldn't process that I was cherished. I felt worthless.
It wasn't until recently that I have enough self-love, self-esteem to feel worthy of real love.

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What You Doing for Valentine's Day?

Virginia — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 22:00:37 GMT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_J3oaGSs_DE

This is Disney's Valentine. I had fun looking thru a lot of Valentine videos on U Tube to find some to send others.
The range was from cynical, to very romantic, to funny, history of Valentine's Day, and how guys can save money on Valentine gifts.

For my on-line friends I sent videos and Valentine graphics. I made some Valentine cards with some cute scrapbooking pieces to send snail-mail.

I printed some darling little Valentine baskets off the web, put flowers in them for church seniors luncheon tables.

Hubby and I will most likely go out for dinner and he said he'd buy tickets to the Service League Follies.

I go every year right after Valentine's Day and buy lots of boxes of candy for 1/2 price. Then I start my Spring dieting..ha ha

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You can look the whole world over.....

aschleigh — Tue, 12 Feb 2008 07:51:35 GMT

You can look the whole world over and never find someone as deserving of love as you..

So true, pass it on.

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David Deida

TantraTao — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 08:01:06 GMT

Hey peeps,

I'm thinking about doing this workshop with David Deida.
Any of you done one before? What's the 411?

Details: www.DeidaEvents.com.

TT

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after a while you learn...

SpiritAsJeff — Sat, 02 Feb 2008 15:19:04 GMT

After awhile you learn
the subtle difference between
holding a hand and chaining a soul
and you learn that love doesn't mean possession
and company doesn't mean security.
And you begin to learn that kisses aren't contracts
and presents aren't promises and you begin to accept
your defeats with your head up and your eyes ahead
with the grace of an adult not the grief of a child.
And you learn to build your roads today
because tomorrow's ground is too uncertain for plans
and futures have ways of falling down in mid-flight.
After awhile you learn that even sunshine
burns if you get too much so you plant your
own garden and decorate your own soul
instead of waiting for someone to bring you flowers.
And you learn that you really can endure
that you really are strong
and you really do have worth
and you learn
and you learn...

Veronica A. Shoffstall © Copyright 1971

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I got you.

Jessy — Mon, 22 Oct 2007 22:21:30 GMT

They say we're young and we don't know,
We won't find out until we grow
Well, I don't know if all that's true
'Cause you got me and, baby, I got you
They say our love won't pay the rent
Before it's earned, our money's all been spent
I guess that's so, we don't have a plot
But at least I'm sure of all the things we got
I got flowers in the spring
I got you to wear my ring
And when I'm sad, you're a clown
And if I get scared, you're always around
So, let them say your hair's too long
'Cause I don't care, with you I can't go wrong
Then put your little hand in mine
There ain't no hill or mountain we can't climb

I got you to hold my hand

I got you to understand

I got you to walk with me

I got you to talk to me

I got you to kiss good night

I got you to hold me tight

I got you, I won't let go

I got you to love me so

I got you, babe

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Eckhart Tolle: holding space

zigo — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 03:49:52 GMT

great and funny video..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lx526pO9UV0

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Transitioning from Conditional to Unconditional

Surei — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 05:30:38 GMT

It's the same old story.. two people meet, "fall in love", but eventually realize that they can't love *everything* about their partner. They try to change each other. Obviously that doesn't work, so they "break up".

So here's my problem: It's been almost a year now, and I'm still hung up on this relationship. This person is really special, they bring an energy and unique perspective to life unlike anything I've never encountered in a person before. I really want to keep them in my life.. but how to do it without longing, pain, or jealousy?

I believe a great deal of my pain in this relationship was self-inflicted because I needed things from my partner they wouldn't have been happy giving. To me that seems like conditional love.. I guess then, I want to be able to love wholly and unconditionally, so that my friendship with them can be a pleasure and a positive force in my life.

Does anyone have any personal experience similar to this? Any ideas, stories, or advice would be appreciated :) I need help stimulating this transition!

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What is Depth?

aschleigh — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 04:50:11 GMT

What is really deep for you? What do you think is at the depth of your soul?

For instance I think comitment is deep. It is so deep you can't see the bottom, you just have to wade in and start swimming. I know when I committed to loving my boyfriend ( we are no longer together ) it brought up all sorts of icky stuff , but I knew I had to keep going through to get to the other side. The inner comitment ( he didn't committ to me , so it wasn't mutual) it shifted something in me. I also find that if I comitt to a place, I tend to really be here more than If I'm wishy washy, " I may move in a year, I may not" . So now I am committed to Los Angeles at least for 2 years if not more. I know a mother's love is deep, again the comitment and the shift must be massive.
Connection is deep. Connection is everything ofcourse. But the connection that two people can have in a moment can be very deep.
Knowing that there is a level of life that is all one and all exactly as it should be is deep. Forgiveness is deep, it has something to do with that level where everything is perfect I think.
Rumi said , " what you wish for at your deepest level is what you already are" . I must already be comitment, connection and forgiveness on another level.
What is deep for you?

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A trinsic poem

trinsic — Sun, 03 Feb 2008 00:28:59 GMT

I understand that life has its ups and downs,
and I care about the world and my life,
sometimes things get turned upside down and I wonder,
If Ill be able to stop the flow of time in my head, or slow it down enough to see though it.

To see though the lies and deception that I have created though no fault of my own,
but most of all that I forgive myself, let go and move on with the best intentions,
as the best of my intentions revolve around my ability to unravel what keeps me from the world of compassion and understanding.

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When you think you've learned

MrsC — Sat, 02 Feb 2008 18:01:32 GMT

When you think you’ve learned
That you are capable of making your own way
Creating your own happiness, being your own best friend
A twist of fate reveals to the one you thought had forgotten
He sees with new eyes and realizes with a broken heart
The years the two of you have spent merely existing
An awakening occurs and life for the two of you is new
You remember that holding hands can join two souls
And that being loved, not a little but unconditionally
Makes belonging sweet and kisses a promise of forever
Realizing love is a journey taken together
Enjoying the good and surviving the bad
That the future need not hold certain failure
But present a blank pallette on which to paint life
And you learn that love is real, forever is real
And you learn
And you learn...

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quotes on love

azee — Mon, 25 Jun 2007 12:08:51 GMT

Person to person, moment to moment, as we love, we change the world.

- Samahria Lyte Kaufman

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Noobie here!

Sugar — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 04:17:21 GMT

Just saying hello to all! I'm SO happy to be here!
SB

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Love is easier than you think

Ol Soul Young Heart — Sat, 19 Jan 2008 03:56:22 GMT

Love is easier than you think.
Love is easy, then you think.
Love is easy.
Love.

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Self-love as basic for all Love. What do you think?

aschleigh — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:53:18 GMT

A glowing vision of the future helps you tackle the core beliefs about yourself—such as doubts about your own worthiness for success—that have held you back until now. So as you peel back the curtains around your core self, you become ready to tap the source of all change and success—self-love, and forgiveness for past failures.

Self-love doesn't happen by luck or the grace of God. You have to create it. These are among the most important elements of it.

* Honoring yourself and who you really are. Love is your birthright. As Teilhard de Chardin said, "We are not human beings having a spiritual experience, we are spiritual beings having a human experience."
* Telling the highest truth, which is that we are powerful beings capable of creating joy and success or pain and suffering in our lives. We are not destined to be victims. We have the power to choose, and this power is both the greatest responsibility we have and the greatest opportunity.
* Honoring who you are becoming. Self-love involves recognizing that you are constantly evolving and growing to become a more powerful and more loving being.
* Honoring your feelings and responding to those feelings. Remember, feelings are important signals, and even the so-called negative feelings of anger and fear serve the important purpose of alerting us to the obstacles in our life.
* Recognizing that the universe is literally made of love. "If we will just open ourselves to receive, like flowers opening to the sun, then everything is possible," says Ti Caine, hypnotherapist and life coach based in Sherman Oaks, California.

When things go wrong or goals don't materialize, most people blame their past, their parents, life in general or God. We are even encouraged to do this by friends and family who are well-meaning. We also devote a great deal of energy to settling for what is, without recognizing what we can become.

All the great wisdom traditions speak of the unlimited power we have within us. Both quantum physics and psychology offer proof that our thoughts create our reality. Yet, Caine points out, many people strenuously object to the truth that we create our own reality.

"They argue that it's not loving to tell a sick person they had anything to do with creating their illness," he says. "Yet, by not owning their power when they are sick, they are consigning themselves to a life of being a victim of any virus or circumstance that comes their way. This powerlessness is the source of most depression, and it leads to more illness and problems such as overeating."

He insists it is more honest and even more loving to gently help people recognize the power they have to create their reality, including failures. Once we do that, then we must forgive ourselves for the painful experiences we have previously chosen in our lives. "I don't know all the parts of me that are creating the failed relationships, but I am willing to learn about them."

Only by seeing how in the past we have allowed problems to control us, and forgiving ourselves, can we really change and be free to go forward in life feeling more powerful, able to create the success and happiness we want.

Forgiveness, says Caine, is not only a form of self-love, it is completely an inside job. First you have to own your mistakes. Here is how.

* Imagine a future where you totally love yourself and have totally owned your power.
* Reach for an understanding of why you would choose limitations in your life. We are often taught by family and life experiences that being weak, sick or helpless is the way to get attention or help. Look at your own and other peoples attempts to get acceptance, attention and love. Ask yourself, what was I taught about being lovable? About being powerful and responsible for my life?
* Then forgive yourself for having made mistakes. Imagine how your future self would forgive you for a mistake.
* Then you can consciously create better methods for getting the acceptance, attention, love and success that you want.

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Greek words

J Timothy — Wed, 12 Sep 2007 23:19:19 GMT

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_words_for_love

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Are you a Mystic, please joinus for the love of Mankind

dominic — Sun, 02 Dec 2007 08:21:46 GMT

COMMONALITY AMONGST THE WORLD'S MYSTICS:

If you study the life of past mystics you'll find they share several things in common:

First, they all speak of an induction – or of a need to learn/realize a new level of understanding. They all speak of a fundamental shift in consciousness (be it called awakening, realization, divination, or being born again).

Second they all tell of making a journey into and through a despair process of being “undone” as the precursor to this fundamental shift in consciousness -- be it through experiencing 40 days and nights in the wilderness, starving under the boddhi tree, facing the dark night of the soul, or the hero’s journey. There is a Journey of metamorphosis that all mystics have undergone in some way.

Third, it is an inner journey that must be taken up and navigated alone. This is a hallmark of the mystic’s realization: The reason the journey must be alone is because that which must be faced, seen, and surrendered in order that something new can emerge, is only possible through sustaining the fear and despair process of being alone and meeting the ultimate and fundamental fear of “non-being” and annihilation.

Fourth, they all seem to realize the frustration of being misunderstood by those who have not yet been through the awakening journey -- “those who have ears to hear, let him hear.” A great deal of the mystical writings are devoted almost exclusively to the fact that fundamental spiritual truth cannot be understood by the intellect nor correctly put into words. Forever, the great spiritual teachers have tried through the insufficiency of words to point toward that which can ever and only be experienced and known on a level that is before and beyond the mind. This is something unfathomable to those who have not yet had this breakthrough revelation - and particularly so in our contemporary culture that has become so overly reliant and blinded by the limiting paradigm of the scientific method that forever reduces our understanding of intelligence to that which is sensory, measurable and linear in nature. (...Life isn't (only or always) linear .. In fact it rarely is, except in man-made constructions and habituated uses of the mind.)

Please join us at this forum
http://groups.msn.com/TheInternationalMysticalOrderofKnightTemplars/_whatsnew.msnw

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Zen and the Art of Falling in Love

Kyrka — Tue, 04 Dec 2007 02:53:14 GMT

Zen and the Art of Falling in Love - by Brenda Shoshanna

Anyone else reading this? I've found it quite remarkable, and conjoined with a new (ahem, long-distance) love interest it sure feels like the closest in the years since adolescence I've ever been to being both true to myself, and unconditional in my transmission of love. [Hot damn it's good to be back!]

Not scientific in the least - there have been WAY too many variables changing in my life over the past two weeks to quantify anything concretely... but the impact each change has had feels remarkable, appears to infect the quantum field around me, and energize with more positivity than my vessel is designed to contain.... so now I get to share too! Thanks, thanks, and thanks.

Namaste,
K.

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New relationship to anger....

aschleigh — Mon, 31 Dec 2007 05:37:44 GMT

So I was thinking, when I have been angry at people in the past it was because I didn't get what I want. I didn't get my expectations met and it pissed me off and I blamed the person . I needed the anger to seperate myself from that person and when I felt well seperated I stopped feeling the anger so much. ( and then I could feel the love again, in the case of my mom at least)

So now I am begining to think that when someone is angry with me, it doesn't have that much to do with me. They need it to separate or to not deal with the pain or to blame me for them not getting what they want. Regardless, it isn't me. I didn't DO Anything to them . Their anger is there's.
I am not angry with my ex-boyfriend anymore because I don't need to be. He is angry with me because he needs it still. I heal a bit faster because I do it consciously and I look for the purpose of the anger/pain in my life. I learned so much from this last relationship. Like my standards of honesty and monogamy are totally reasonable.( I tell that to everyone going in) I don't need to be angry he didn't live up to them anymore. And I don't need to need angry with someone just because they are angry with me. And that if someone is angry with me I don't have to beat myself up about it.
And I get to be extra thankfull for people like my mom, who stuck with me through the angry years ( there were many) .
What has made the difference with you and your relationship to anger? How do I go further from here?

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love is on the way

budgie — Sun, 30 Dec 2007 23:58:10 GMT

love is on the way lalalalalalala

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What lesson would you teach?

MZ — Thu, 10 Jan 2008 14:51:21 GMT

If you had one lesson to teach, what would lesson be? Submit your response to www.onelessontoteach.com

much love,
mz

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just unconditional

Celestine — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 02:53:56 GMT

no positive, no negative just unconditional... This is a wonderful meditation. I highly recommend it. I started with this self imposed question...What does unconditional feel like? and went to the mantra "I am unconditional" A truly unique awareness.

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Thoughts on Passionate love past 50 & Unconditional Love- NEED HELP EXPLAINING!

JB — Wed, 02 Jan 2008 22:25:07 GMT

I am new to the group and have not read all the articles, but I would like to get a response from some of those who may know firsthand on this topic

I am 53 going on 40. I have always taken care of my body and mind and can always make a woman happy with and without sex. I lost my wife to a medical problem at age 40 a few years back and am dating a 32 year old who has had LITTLE experiece with sex, but much experience in LOVE in her life. (don't ask why, but a drunk husband should explain things)She will do anything to make me happy and I am the same, and we have only been dating for 6 months before she left on tour. I always strive to make my woman happy with all the litle things I do and both of us have been without sex for 4 long years. We are deeply in love , but she is in Germany and I am in USA. We will be together in June. We are planning an engagement and one week of being together very closely. We were discussing LOVE and SEX, and she wanted to know if I knew what PASSIONATE LOVE SEX was. I explained to her that I experienced it in my last relationship and the easy explanation was that it was like PUPPY LOVE, your first feelings of love, with so much energy and fire built in, that its like no other bonding and can make you feel like you went to heaven for days after. I also explained that if this romance and love is so deep within couples, that it should go on forever, provding both partners are in great physical, mental and emotional states and that this Passionate Love does NOT need practice, that it just happens (MY experience) She is deathly afraid that she won't be able to experience this with me, as she feels she is inexperienced, and feels that I will be disappointed.

I would like someone to EXPLIN to me, so i can explain to her, the difference between Passionate love and just loving someone deeply on a day to day basis. I know how I feel and what it does for me, but i need to hear it from you folks so I can back up my explanation

She was told by a friend? that people over 50 (me) cannot experience Passionate Love, because it is CHEMICAL love and the chemical is gone by age 40 (ya right) and since I have disagreed and experienced it, she is now very curious

Can anyone help me out on this? and what is this Chemical that I haven't heard of, unless its the NGF or something they talked about in the 80's

be well,

J

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Choose LOVE!

scqueaky — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:40:19 GMT

A great little article from dailyom.com:

December 11, 2007
What We Are Made Of
Choose Love

Love is often presented as the opposite of fear, but true love is not opposite anything. True love is far more powerful than any negative emotions, as it is the environment in which all things arise. Negative emotions are like sharks swimming in the ocean of love. All things beautiful and fearful, ugly and kind, powerful and small, come into existence, do their thing, and disappear within the context of this great ocean. At the same time, they are made of the very love in which they swim and can never be separated. We are made of this love and live our whole lives at one with it, whether we know it or not.

It is only the illusion that we are separate from this great love that causes us to believe that choosing anything other than love makes sense or is even possible. In the relative, dualistic world of positive and negative, darkness and light, male and female, we make choices and we learn from them. This is exactly what we are meant to be doing here on earth. Underlying these relative choices, though, is the choice to be conscious of what we are, which is love, or to be unconscious of it. When we choose to be conscious of it, we choose love. We will still exist in the relative world of opposites and choices and cause and effect, and we will need to make our way here, but doing so with an awareness that we are all made of this love will enable us to be more playful, more joyful, more loving and wise, as we make our way. Ultimately, the choices we make will shed light on the love that makes us all one, enabling those who have forgotten to return to the source.

This world makes it easy to forget this great love, which is part of why we are here. We are here to remember and, when we forget to remember again, to choose love.

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MORE THAN A RESOLUTION

everlutionary — Mon, 31 Dec 2007 22:47:21 GMT

More Than A Resolution

Must we resolve what we are already doing? To resolve means we haven't reached our intention, or, that we are creating a new intention; it means we are striving to meet and reach an ideal.

The ideal we hold is why we resolve to change our actions, thoughts, and hence current situation; this is accomplished through an accumulated force of will meant to propel us in a new direction. Today propel onto a new path and internalize the resolution; doing so means it fuses with your every waking and sleeping moment.

Resolve only until it becomes a part of your nature then drop the resolution.

More than a resolution,
the intention must be to change the very nature of our being, therefore, making us congruent with whom we strive to be.

Be.

Resolve to accept yourself for who you are. Remember: no one is ever perfect. Accept the dynamism of change. Experience a growth which cannot be calculated. Situations do not remain the same and as the environment around us shifts, we must open to transform the resolutions once needed… for even they shall one day become obsolete or counter-productive.

Resolve to not be disappointed, overly critical or difficult upon what you do and have done.
If we fix upon a goal and don't reach it we lead ourselves to disappointment.

Dynamic resolutions assist in preventing this occurrence.
Static resolutions do not.

Accept all the good and the bad... accept that which you cherish and that which you despise. Move into a space of acceptance; release from self-judgment. Guilt is not healthy, instead embrace change and create alternatives. Move past the limiting idea of failure. Move into a constant state of embracing every moment... and then become open... to all experiences... open to all that arises and passes.

Look at yourself. Discover your fears. Understand your faults. Reach for the zenith and don't be afraid to fall. Fall down. Stand back up. Embrace falling, it is necessary to learn walking.

Challenge even your resolutions, hence reaching awareness of self.

Avoid causing the self pain by sticking to a resolution that may no longer be relevant. As the conscious intention penetrates into your being, resolve to not blindly cling to resolutions without understanding their meaning; instead, embrace your true nature through awareness of who you are... the change sought is dependent on self-realization.

The change is dependent upon acceptance,
internalizing it so that it becomes more than just a resolution.

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insight on a strange situation?

meru-chan — Tue, 04 Dec 2007 17:22:09 GMT

I am about to get married to someone i have been with for over 4 years. I have been excited to be engaged and we have a great relationship. Recently I got a new job, and have found myself being physically attracted to someone I work with. This has been quite troubling to me. I don't believe in cheating, I have never cheated in a relationship, and I would never want to do anything to hurt my fiance, and I also don'tthink it's a good idea to start up relationships at work. I know all of these things logically, so why are my hormones going nutso??? Is it pre-wedding jitters?

I have been trying to take this as a sign from the universe that maybe I'd like to rekindle the passion in my own relationship, especially as we are getting closer to the wedding. I realized that since living together, our sex life, while the act is still great, has been lower on the frequency scale. So I have been talking to my fiance about the fact I'd like MORE of it, and he has listened and agreed, etc... things have actually improved.

The problem is, I am going to have to go back to work and deal with the fact I still get weird butterflies around this person. Am I terrible? Insane? What the hell is going on?!

I'd really like some healthy insight on this from people who believe that affairs aren't the answer- because I don't think that it IS the answer. What IS the answer?

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unconditionally choosing to love the practice of staying drama free here on tribe and in real life....

freewil4u — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 07:37:33 GMT

have learned tribe esp the BM tribe is a great place to find drama and conflicting opinions even finger pointing at each other if that's what we are looking for in virtual life.... gratefully l have learned mostly from reading and choosing not to participate in dysfunctional relationship while fostering healthy ones..... since l don't get involved in virtual dramas l don't take others personally as much any more....
tribe is full of lessons l see as gifts and have grown from.... perception leading toward being in witness or reactionary participation is a choice we all may learn from....
feel free to share your personal observations experiences or simply point your finger at me and mine lol....
learning;;;;;freewil

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Unconditional love...

Spirit Wolf — Mon, 03 Dec 2007 21:28:38 GMT

Balance is being able to embrace all that exists, both individually and communally, without attatchment, expectations or limitations. That is also the definitions for UNCONDITIONAL LOVE and free will...spirit guides and I must follow!" Spirit Wolf

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TANTRA - SOUTH PACIFIC

jean — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:15:36 GMT

I'm new to Tribe. My friends and I, Swiss, American, French, Nepalese have 5,000 acres in Fiji and 500 acres freehold on an exotic island not far from Suva, Fiji plus a 50 foot motor sailer and we are discussing establishing a Tantra focused colony/commune/resort there. Any interest or suggestions?
Best wishes

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Unconditional love? Attachements to outcome or not?

Steve — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 22:37:47 GMT

I had a conversation with a friend about what defines unconditional love. I thought it was love without attachment. She said it was love with attachment to outcome. I think she's wrong but I still love her. I'm interested in your take on this. This may even be a moot point. Perhaps unconditional love has nothing to do with attachment to outcome. What do you think?

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Sharula Dux on Telos & Hollow Earth

Tranquility777 — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 15:06:28 GMT

Hi and Love to all of you. Yesterday I listened to a very interesting audio about the INNER EARTH people and their lifestyle. It says that they have been living there for 25000 years now. In this audio series of 12, Sharula Dux ; who is a Princess from that inner Earth world; gives us a history of how people chose to live there and she also describes their cities and lifestyle. I would like to believe it 100% because I enjoyed learning about how they manage a peaceful, healthy and extremely advanced community which is a part of the Galactic Federation . What I really enjoyed was about AGING. They DON"T age or die unless they choose to leave. They can live for 1000s of years...........they can stay young for 1000s of years.......just because of their belief in immortality and the way society teaches them that they are not mortal.....................VERY INSPIRING and Revolutionary to our belief system.
Here is the link to the first part of the audio:
www.youtube.com/watch

Enjoy it,
Love,

Zohreh

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empathy and unconditional love

Estrella — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 19:32:47 GMT

this has been posted in another tribe. I don't know why not here. It is so sweet, i had to share
so enjoy it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JiJzqXxgxo

Love
E.

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please view and vote for my bumper sticker campaign at Brickfish :)

Elizabeth — Fri, 09 Nov 2007 21:02:54 GMT

Hey all, it's Liz here. Well I'm trying to win this scholarship competition, where you have to design a bumper sticker. Here is the url for you to check it out:

http://www.brickfish.com/Pages/PhotosAlbums/PhotoView.aspx?picid=125398_80647803&=PPIMEMAIL&isep=1&pbapi=161745&pbvi=6301779

The more votes I get, the better I do. Please take some time quickly to review and vote for my bumper sticker, maybe I can win with your help!

Peace
Liz

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Loving What Is

dan_arth — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 04:33:36 GMT

Anybody love Byron Katie's work?

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Don't brake for politics!

kiddhartha — Mon, 03 Sep 2007 14:38:38 GMT

It's time for people who love their country and their planet to take them back from the politicians.

Candidates that care about us, our tribe and our world deserve our support; others don't.

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when self love, UL and a teenager collide

SpiritAsJeff — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 15:18:27 GMT

last night i apparently hit capacity as far as teen rudeness, or lack of common courtesy, and i said something about it... about the attitude...
i usually dont say anything, mindful that i am not the parent, leaving that to my g/f to deal with, her daughter. so when i finally do say something to the 15.5 year old everyone gets all freaked out... like omg, he set a boundary! now today i dont even want to deal with it frankly and almost wish i'd just kept my mouth shut... which is, i think, kind of the status quo... dont say anything, just tollerate... and then things just stay the same, and is that for everyones highest good? doesnt feel like it. but then this having to deal with the ramifications doesnt feel so hot either.

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the Free Hugs sign

thehappyfool — Thu, 08 Nov 2007 14:33:56 GMT

this is perhaps the most fun i have had in early life of Happy Fool Films..
and i am very proud of this short film.. and i hope you enjoy it too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_HfJGKGIgE

feel free to share and comment.

xome

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PSYCHIC

J Timothy — Sat, 13 Oct 2007 20:54:37 GMT

If you are or are not but interested, then please join us...we are all about psychic understanding and development. I am the mod there and we are a happy and growing tribe with wishes to expand in all directions. Please come and join, we very much welcome unconditional love in our tribe!

PSYCHIC
http://tribes.tribe.net/psi-line

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Is Unconditional Love Painless?

RedRob — Wed, 12 Sep 2007 21:44:50 GMT

I'm dealing with a tough choice in my life -- separating with my wife, choosing to constrained life that meets her criteria for living (which is reasonable by many accounts), or hoping she'll learn be tolerant and accepting of my needs before her own on matters that are important to me. See, I've been the "good husband" who has put her needs so first that I've forgotten to pay attention to my own -- and I resent many choices I've made on behalf of "unconditional love" over the last 10 years of our marriage.

I think UL can't exclude love for your self.

Someone recently tried pointing out the difference between UL and CL (conditional love). A "secret note" I found later on said :

"Unconditional Love Is Painless."

What do you think was meant by that?

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How does your lover make you feel??

Xavior_C_Bonezs — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 22:43:41 GMT

Title is the question but let me expand on it. I recent and very passionately found someone very interesting and I am intrigued in. I want to know how everyone your lover makes you feel when you hear their voice, feel their touch, smell their scent, or just sat near them. Now in my mind Love is Love no matter who the person is and no matter their age if they intrigue you you need to let them know. My Love shares a lot of interests I do and has in the short time we are a couple shown me more things I am interested in. Now understand their is a flip side to this question but that is not what I am looking for. Feel free to express your answers. Names withheld is an option all I truly want to know is how you feel towards them. Oh one thing HONESTY is the only answer I will except.

Have Fun answering this one
Will

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Is it loving

thekid — Fri, 19 Oct 2007 02:55:37 GMT

to continue in a relationship in which you have made your intentions known, told the partners what you expect and realize that they just don't want to put the effort into the relationship? Recently I have adjusted my schedule for a person and they show up one hour late for dates even when they assure me they will be on time. When they arrive they are not prepared for the activities we agreed upon. I am the only one who expresses displeasure the other partner thinks we should just be happy to be together. Well I don't think that is what I want or need. I aim for self improvement. And respect. The activities are not fun because I have to keep giving in order for them to work. What is a perspective. Maybe it is just my perspective. The negativitiy will force me to lose my friendship...but I want more than just friendship...I want improvement. Is dumping friends unconditional love?

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Strength in Love

J Timothy — Wed, 19 Sep 2007 20:16:14 GMT

It has been my experience recently that there are those that have a somewhat predatory nature who would take even the merest mention of the word love as a sign of inherent weakness....or that someone who uses this word is lily-livered and easy to dominate and subdue, overpower.

What I want to know is this: how do you project an aura of strength around love? I am not talking about some form of Tough Love...because I see that as an unworkable and oxymoronic concept. I am talking about real inner strength that does not diminish nor dissipate the condition of unconditional love....

I don't think anger goes the right way, really.....

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