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Howto do a DIY behind the ball rerouting

topic posted Wed, September 14, 2011 - 3:26 PM by  offlineTom
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Hi all,

I am looking for a practical way to do a urethral rerouting behind my balls
without ending up in ER.

Anybody here with medical knowledge ?
Any suggestions ? any hints ?
Any medical advices are welcome !

Please let us know

Tom
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  • Re: Howto do a DIY behind the ball rerouting

    Wed, September 14, 2011 - 5:21 PM
    WOW! I really wish I had an answer to your questions as I want one there also. But as Detach mentions, 1st off that is a difficult location to see what you are doing by yourself. Secondly the urethra and outer layer of skin thicker and moves around more in that location.

    I learned from doing my above the scrotum reroute that there is a lot of shrinkage from healing and I had to do multiple cuts with a dermal punch and at final cut had an oblong hole 3/4 inch long which healed down to 5/16 inch. With the closeness to the anus cleanliness and avoiding infection would be more difficult. And I can assure there would be a lot more bleeding due to the proximity to the bulbous portion and richer blood supply.

    I firmly believe sutures would be a must with the ideal method being one where the urethra is separated to the shaft and cut through and then sutured to a hole in the outer layer of skin. And even in that case if not done properly and the hole closed preventing enptying of the bladder you could end up with serious problems.

    Don't get me wrong... I'm not trying to scare you out of doing one but the things I mentioned are what have been stopping me so far.

    BTW - I tried passing a metal tube down my urethra that could be used to guide a sharp stainless wire down while tenting out the urethra. I was able to pierce an opening but the direction of the hole was pointed backward. I tried piercing a new hole further forward in the outer skin but couldn't find the existing hole in the urethra and lost it completely. Besides pierced holes with metal in them take a long time to heal and then shrink considerably when the metal is removed. I did a reroute PA 5 weeks ago and it isn't even close to being healed.

    My current reroute started with a piercing and progressed to numerous cutting with a dermal punch and still it took close to a year to get an adequately established hole.
    • Re: Howto do a DIY behind the ball rerouting

      Thu, September 15, 2011 - 12:59 PM
      I complete agree with Detach and you: It is not easy to perform
      And that's the reason why I started the discussion and not the cutting.

      Let's first collect all available information and even better facts.
      At the end let's decide whether it can be done or not.

      I was reading about several methods to get a DIY rerouting.
      Using:
      - a knitting needle
      - strong magnet
      - using a soldering iron
      - slow cutting, going deeper and deeper

      I do not know what is the best way.

      First I would like to understand the anatomy of the area behind the scrotum.
      Is the movable skin free movable or somehow connected to penis structure ?
      Is there a risk when it is done e.g. by piercing that urine can get inside scrotum ?
      How could it prevented to get urine inside ?
      Do I have to stitch the outer skin to the urethra ?
      How thick are these layers of skin ?

      Any answers ?

      Would it be possible to make a piercing like it was made for an apadravya:
      - make the piercing
      - put the barbell inside (one ball inside urethra the other one outside)
      - wait until it is healed
      (... and yes I know it might be very difficult to get the barbell inside ...)
      • Re: Howto do a DIY behind the ball rerouting

        Thu, September 15, 2011 - 3:19 PM
        • Knitting needle isn't sharp enough to puncture the skin to get inside the urethra.
        • Strong magnet?!? How would that even work?
        • Soldering iron isn't hot enough to singe the skin open. Ideally you would want to use a cauterizer.
        • Slow cutting may not be feasible since the area heals pretty fast.

        A piercing wouldn't be comfortable- after a day, the piercing would be very irritating and possibly cause infection. Same with Acrylic, wood plugs, or glass plugs.
      • Re: Howto do a DIY behind the ball rerouting

        Thu, September 15, 2011 - 6:02 PM
        Some things I learned from doing my current reroute are that if one starts with a piercing and keeps some sort of stainless steel object in place the healing process will form a skin tunnel or skin tube between the urethra and outer layer of skin around the metal. It takes months to heal completely probably because of the length of the tube that is formed.

        I found that depending on how the outer layer of shaft skin had slid on my penis shaft it determined the direction of the skin tube and consequently the direction that urine flowed out. Sometimes it was backwards, others forward or sideways. I quickly realized that this was not what I wanted. So I started cutting in one direction and used an "L" shaped pin with a round flange on the short end to keep the hole open, The short length of the "L" pin kept the cut outer layer of skin in close proximity to the cut urethra and in that way my urethra began to heal directly to the outer layer of skin. After I completely cut around my original hole I completely removed the 'skin' tube and had a complete bond of the urethra directly to the outer layer of skin. That is the way it needs to be.

        The skin on the penis shaft (actually the upper part of my scrotum) is thin so the inside of my urethra is close to the opening in the outer layer of my skin and everything works well. Nevertheless, I found that if my scrotum moved forward the opening could get covered and restricted some and I would still get urine out the tip of my penis. It was very messy when that happened. That is why I blocked the unused portion. I imagine that same sort of thing could still happen with a 'below the scrotum' reroute.

        As I mentioned I had to elongate the cut opening considerably to allow for shrinkage during healing. My last cut created an opening where I could see inside my scrotum. I also had a fear that urine might get inside my scrotum and cause an infection so I kept a metal tunnel in place until healing was complete and urine couldn't enter my scrotum. I'm not sure if it really would have but I didn't want to take that chance.

        The "L" pins had the advantage that they could be easily removed periodically but as I cut the reroute hole larger I need larger diameter "L" pins that restricted peeing. So then I drilled a hole through the short leg of the "L" that acted as a tube so I could pee easily without removing the pin.

        As my reroute hole got even larger I couldn't bent the pin as the diameter was too large. At that point I tried using a conventional tunnel with a flange on the inner and outer end. Because the urethra is so flexible it would pop out easily so I made a "T" shaped pin. The top leg of the "T" I inserted down my urethra and it had a threaded hole in the side of it. Next I passed a tube with a flange on one end and a male thread on the other that would thread into the part inside my urethra. That was a lot more comfortable and worked well. It was also easy to change the diameter of the tube portion as I cut my hole larger.

        I will post some photos of these devices in the photos section of this tribe.
        • Re: Howto do a DIY behind the ball rerouting

          Fri, October 7, 2011 - 8:45 AM
          I tried/started trying to do one myself 2 hours ago.

          I started with inserting a sterilized chopstick and cutting through the dent with a scalpel.
          It went pretty well through the skin, but the urethra is very resilient.
          so i inserted a small acryl tube an pierced through the urethra from the inside with a long needle i filed myself from a 1mm diameter surgical steel and then sterilized.

          this is where i am stuck right now. I stopped the (very minor) bleeding with wound glue for now. the really long needle is still in.
          I consider trying to cut it free a little later this evening, and failing that using a cauter.

          wish me luck :D
          • Re: Howto do a DIY behind the ball rerouting

            Fri, October 7, 2011 - 1:03 PM
            I got about that far twice myself. I inserted a hollow tube down my urethra and used a 1.5 mm stainless welding wire that I sharpened and sterilized to pierce through my urethra. The problem is what to do with the wire. I cut off the pointed end and attached a small collar I made to the end of the wire between my legs with a set screw. The problem is that the other end is too long (allowing for when the penis is erect to leave in place comfortably. You can bend it where it exits the penis but I guarantee that after a day or two it will irritate the inside of the urethra also the rubbing of the stiff wire on cloths will surely irritate the skin where it is pierced.

            And even if you could tolerate that the hole would be too small when healed to be of any value. Stretch it and within a couple hours (or day) it will shrink back to the size it was pierced at.. All in all you can plan on having something in place for 3 to 4 months for it to heal to the point where it won't close up when it is removed.

            My best guess is that this point you need to cut a larger hole through the urethra and insert a small "L" pin, tunnel or something flexible to keep it open while it heals. The best thing would be to have someone suture it if you can find someone.
            • Re: Howto do a DIY behind the ball rerouting

              Wed, December 21, 2011 - 4:36 AM
              I was privileged to watch my friend Julian having his done about forteen months ago. A smooth long fairly thick sound was pushed down his urethra until we could see it beneath the skin. I think it was made of hard wood and was similar to a smooth chopstick. Prior to this he had held a large lump of ice between his legs which had cooled the area. His other friend then burned a slit into the urethra using a very sharp electric soldering iron. The slit was about 15mm long and 3mm wide. It was a hot summers day and we all went swimming.straight afterwards. We were staying in a beautiful part of remote Devon. He had taken loads of Piriton before to ease any swelling and the salt water was like disinfectant. There was no bleeding and no complications.He now wants further holes into his urethra, one in front of his scrotum and one behind. He has a big cock which I still love to suck, but of course the cum and piss comes from between his legs now. I can low into his cock and feel the "breeze" on my fingers between his thighs!
              • Re: Howto do a DIY behind the ball rerouting

                Thu, December 22, 2011 - 1:52 PM
                Call me skeptical but I have a hard time believing that your friend was able to achieve a permanently open 'behind the scrotum' reroute by that method. How did he keep it from healing closed? I certainly agree that that method of cauterizing while cutting would be nearly bloodless. But I have a hard time believing that the hole in the outer layer of skin bonded to the hole in the urethra without closing up.
                • Re: Howto do a DIY behind the ball rerouting

                  Sun, January 1, 2012 - 4:20 PM
                  Forgive me for not getting back earlier. I have to be honest, I went out part way through this as I hadnt realised that I was feeling a bit faint but there was someting to do with strips put through the edge which had Cyanoacrylate on it. I didnt see this done but I have seen the finished result and it is brilliant.
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                    Re: Howto do a DIY behind the ball rerouting

                    Mon, January 2, 2012 - 3:22 AM
                    Strips with Cyanoacrylate on it! Now there's an idea that I would like to learn more about. Sounds like it might be an alternative to sutures. Is there any chance you can find out more about exactly what was done? This is the kind of creative thinking that might someday allow for a DIY or at least an assisted DIY 'behind the scrotum' urethral reroute.

                    How long has it been since the procedure and do you know if his reroute is still functional.
                    • Re: Howto do a DIY behind the ball rerouting

                      Wed, January 4, 2012 - 1:34 AM
                      The reason I had come back to this sight when I did was I met up with him again about the beginning of December and we had fun together. It was great. The proceedure had been entirely successful and was done nearly two years ago. He has described it as a mini finger gauze with a flexible ring on the end. It was pushed into the new hole and expanded inside. The expanded flexible ring held the gauze inside as it was held taught. The "Super glue" was then dribbled around the opening so as to coat the area cut by the hot soldering iron blade. The flexible ring inside, stopped any glue from entering the urethra and the gauze was pressed down on the outside surface. The excess gauze was then trimmed off leaving a slightly stretched open hole where the inside and outside were married up together with no stitches that could scar and no blood. I do not know what the gauze which was flexible and slightly springy was made of. Sorry if this sounds too fague but I had left the room while it was being done and I was not expecting to have to remember the full details. I gathered at the time that Cyanoacrylate has been used in surgery for some time.
                      • Re: Howto do a DIY behind the ball rerouting

                        Fri, April 26, 2013 - 11:11 AM
                        This thread is very interesting. Its has the best information I have found to date. Cauterizing with a sharp soldering iron and using a rubber ring with gauze and super glue to keep the new opening from healing shut is genius!

                        I would like to hear from Ralf and get an update on his progress.
            • Re: Howto do a DIY behind the ball rerouting

              Wed, June 19, 2013 - 11:20 PM
              I would say once you get a wire through slide a catheter over the end of it and use the wire as a guide for the catheter to make it where youwant it to go, you could inflate the balloon on the catheter and that would keep it from going back inside
        • just thinking what if your put in a flesh tunnel like this ell.bizrice.com/selling-leads/1332128/Double-flared-S-TUN11-steel-tunnel-piercing-jewelry.html then it be always open or could be plugged for standard discharge or to clean the pipes on occasion
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    Re: Howto do a DIY behind the ball rerouting

    Tue, January 3, 2012 - 7:54 AM
    Okay, I had a friend over last week to try to help with a behind the scrotum rerouting. Not a good experience, told him what I wanted done and how to do it, I'm a Nurse (LPN)so I have some know how in inserting things into a urethra. He took it on himself to use neosporin cream instead of KY like I said. I now have neosporin in my bladder, no reroute. If you try this get some one with medical knowledge to do it and don't take any thing for pain,anxiety so the person helping you can be watched.
    What I told him to do was clean the area with betadine, lube the catheter with KY, insert catheter, then find where catheter is in relation to where I wanted the new opening at. Use a local to numb the area, make incision through skin to urethra, make incision into urethra, cut end off of catheter, use forceps to pull catheter through opening. Suture catheter with 3/0 fine. Pack area off with sponges, to change wet sponges remove them BID. After 3days replace catheter with new one.

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