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      <title>C'mere, prosperity.</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Isn't the world cool with all this paranoia?&lt;/div&gt;
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      <pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2006 04:58:44 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:date>2006-07-30T04:58:44Z</dc:date>
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      <title>World without a Superman?</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;I feel if DC Comics won't settle with the families of Jerry Siegal and Joe Shuster, the creators of Superman, especially following the new movie, 'Superman Returns', they deserve to lose the property.
&lt;br/&gt;Rumor has it that Superboy's rights have been taken away already.
&lt;br/&gt;Tough negotiations are fair, and Siegal and Shuster didn't have the legal clout that Bob Kane, creator of Batman, had when he signed his deal.
&lt;br/&gt;Neal Adams fought to get Siegal and Shuster royalties, but apparently, their estates can legally own Superman and publish him themselves, seperate from Batman, The Justice League and The Legion.
&lt;br/&gt;I feel this would kill comics, a metaphorical goose which lays golden eggs.
&lt;br/&gt;True, good stories (and art) in DC, Marvel and the new publisher of Superman, should this happen, would keep the industry alive, but hardball tactics of years past may have become obsolete with so many creative opportunities.
&lt;br/&gt;Comics are doing well at pulling out of the implosion of the early nineties, and need to keep it up...&lt;/div&gt;
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      <pubDate>Fri, 14 Apr 2006 01:05:34 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:date>2006-04-14T01:05:34Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Duck</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Hello,
&lt;br/&gt;  I am trying to organize my small business, and the 3000 assignments I am currently committed to drawing.
&lt;br/&gt;  When any of those comes through with a home, an advance and a contract, I do them immediately.
&lt;br/&gt;  If anything comes along with this previously uncomitted to, I prioritize.
&lt;br/&gt;  I have been called very talented, only missed one deadline, when I tried to do 96 pages in a little over a month, (missed the deadline by one day) and I can verify how sales always go up, sometimes dramatically, when I sign on a project.
&lt;br/&gt;  This heavy load on my shoulders makes it hard to always be perfect and I wonder if this is a symtom of what's wrong in business on a bigger scale.&lt;/div&gt;
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      <pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2006 18:25:56 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:date>2006-02-19T18:25:56Z</dc:date>
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      <title>optomism</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;I believe you can kill the goose that laid the golden egg many many times, and the goose will magically resurrect, unconditinoally and perpetually. Right?&lt;/div&gt;
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      <pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:09:51 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:date>2006-01-17T21:09:51Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Geese</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;What comes to mind regarding abusing and losing a good thing?
&lt;br/&gt;For me:
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&lt;br/&gt;1) Neediness or expectations in love.
&lt;br/&gt;2) Credit.
&lt;br/&gt;3) Reliance on prosperiety or convienience.
&lt;br/&gt;4) Freedom pushed past the boundaries of others.
&lt;br/&gt;5) Confusing respect with worship.&lt;/div&gt;
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      <pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2006 21:05:56 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:date>2006-01-03T21:05:56Z</dc:date>
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      <title>The United States</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Wonder if Herbert Walker Bush is saying, "Some day, I'm gonna have a looooooooong talk with thut boy!"?&lt;/div&gt;
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      <pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2005 20:15:36 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:date>2005-12-06T20:15:36Z</dc:date>
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      <title>the actual *sniff*</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;April 30, 2003 
&lt;br/&gt;Here at ICv2, we occasionally look at back issues of our print predecessor, Internal Correspondence, for a glimpse at the history of our industries.  The May 1993 issue of IC was particularly interesting, as it portrayed a comic business in bubble mode, a deal craze in comic companies, several articles that foreshadowed the impending comic crash, and anime and game sales that show some similarities to the present. Internal Correspondence itself had just gone to full color, and was showcasing its new look with the May issue.  
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&lt;br/&gt;The context in the comic industry was that the Death of Superman issues late the previous year had caused an unprecedented wave of publicity, with a corresponding jump in sales (and in aftermarket prices that were driving a speculative frenzy).  DC had pumped out ten Superman comics in April, with the Return of Superman the anchor marketing event.  The industry was still reeling under the weight.  Here are the top stories from comics and other industries in May 1993.  
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&lt;br/&gt;Malibu Comics had signed a number of top creators to do comics, including Howard Chaykin, Jim Starlin, Gil Kane, George Perez, Norm Breyfogle, and others.  Malibu had also signed a videogame deal with THQ.
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&lt;br/&gt;Marvel had just acquired 62% of toy company Toy Biz for the bargain basement price of $7 million in working capital, the Marvel toy license, and guaranteeing a $30 million loan.  Our article said, "For relatively minimal investment, Marvel has acquired control of a toy company with enormous potential (just think of the tie-in possibilities with the James Cameron Spider-Man film).  Isaac Perlmutter, who owns the privately held, New York-based Toy Biz, will contribute all of its assets and will become Chairman of the new Toy Biz line."  Avi Arad, then a star toy designer at Toy Biz came with the deal in an exclusive services contract (IC said it was "almost as important as the acquisition of control in Toy Biz").  Ron Perelman's MacAndrews and Forbes was borrowing $300 million to buy 20% of Marvel to add to the 60% it already owned.   (Note -- this implies a market cap of around $1.5 billion.  After tripling its stock price in the last nine months, Marvel's market cap has just crossed $1 billion for the first time in years).   That puts all the characters in the Marvel story in place.  Ten years later Isaac Perlmutter is the largest shareholder in the post-bankruptcy Marvel, Ron Perelman defaulted on his loans and lost control of Marvel, Avi Arad is Marvel's point man in Hollywood and executive producer of the hit Marvel movies, and after finally getting a Spider-Man movie made in 2002 along with two other hit movies, Marvel has finally crept back to 2/3 of the value it had ten years ago.  
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&lt;br/&gt;Kitchen Sink Press announced that it had acquired Tundra Press from founder and publisher (and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles co-creator) Kevin Eastman.  Scott McCloud's Understanding Comics was an important title named as part of the deal.  Kitchen Sink was also happily announcing that an animated show based on Cadillacs and Dinosaurs was going to be on CBS in the fall. 
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&lt;br/&gt;Fantagraphics was doing the Hateball Tour with Peter Bagge and Daniel Clowes (who more recently achieved a break-out level of fame with his creation Ghost World).  Clowes had just designed the Certified Cool logo for Capital City Distribution (which eventually sold it, along with most of its other assets, to Diamond Comic Distributors).  
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&lt;br/&gt;Capital and DC were collaborating on the Vertigo Spin Across America Tour with Neil Gaiman (accompanied by then Capital Ad and Promo Manager and current WizKids EVP Martin Stever); Chris Bachalo, Peter Milligan and Duncan Fegredo; and Jill Thompson, Grant Morrison, and Steve Yeowell.
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&lt;br/&gt;Former Marvel and Valiant EIC Jim Shooter was talking about the new company, Defiant Comics, where he held the same role.  
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&lt;br/&gt;On Capital's top 600 comic list, the #1 comic was Spawn #13, with Image holding eight of the top ten titles (Voyager/Valiant and Marvel had the other two) and twelve of the top 25.  Voyager/Valiant had two of the top 25, Marvel had six, and DC five (all Superman titles).  
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&lt;br/&gt;In the game world, Games Workshop was switching its miniatures from lead to pewter due to health and regulatory concerns.  It also reorganized its miniature lines, but held prices at $4.99 per two-figure blisterpack.  
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&lt;br/&gt;On the new game bestseller list, the Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting from TSR was #1, with the Vampire Players Guide from White Wolf #2 (CCGs hadn't been invented yet).   On the game backlist bestseller list were some familiar names -- Axis and Allies was #1, the Vampire RPG from White Wolf was #2, and TSR's Player's Handbook and Dungeonmaster's Guide were #3 and #4.  
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&lt;br/&gt;POGs (remember those?) were a craze in card shops.  
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&lt;br/&gt;On the video bestseller list, 14 of the top 20 were anime, including #1 title Sol Bianca, followed by Guyver, Odin, and Kabuto.  Two UltraMan titles were on the list between #15 and #20.
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&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;That issue of Internal Correspondence also premiered a new feature, a monthly column by Internal Correspondence editor (and ICv2 founder) Milton Griepp.   That month's column, titled "Crossing the Rubicon," was about the huge increases in comic shipments the preceding month.  Over 20% of the April 1993 comic dollars were in the ten Superman titles, and April comic dollars were over twice the size of the previous December's.   Griepp's comment on these shipments (which ended up being the biggest month in the modern comic industry, and the beginning of the crash that brought down Marvel and many other companies with it) was understated, to say the least, "Overall, it seems inevitable that there is going to be unsold product in the marketplace when the dust settles."   
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&lt;br/&gt;Griepp also sounded a cautionary note that foreshadowed the coming apocalypse.  "I believe that the best way to expand... is to expand the number of readers for comics," he said.  "Those stores that stress the enjoyment of comics and use the new interest in the medium to build their reader base will be the most successful.  Encouraging speculation, bulk purchases, and touting investment value will inevitably lead to long-term trouble for those retailers that use those practices.  ...I'm concerned about the negative practices described.  As a motivator to buy an entertainment product, excitement is good, greed is bad.  Ask the hundreds of card retailers that went out of business over the last few years."  
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      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2005 01:10:28 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>*sniff*</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;April 30, 2003 
&lt;br/&gt;Here at ICv2, we occasionally look at back issues of our print predecessor, Internal Correspondence, for a glimpse at the history of our industries.  The May 1993 issue of IC was particularly interesting, as it portrayed a comic business in bubble mode, a deal craze in comic companies, several articles that foreshadowed the impending comic crash, and anime and game sales that show some similarities to the present. Internal Correspondence itself had just gone to full color, and was showcasing its new look with the May issue.  
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt; 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The context in the comic industry was that the Death of Superman issues late the previous year had caused an unprecedented wave of publicity, with a corresponding jump in sales (and in aftermarket prices that were driving a speculative frenzy).  DC had pumped out ten Superman comics in April, with the Return of Superman the anchor marketing event.  The industry was still reeling under the weight.  Here are the top stories from comics and other industries in May 1993.  
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt; 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt; 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Malibu Comics had signed a number of top creators to do comics, including Howard Chaykin, Jim Starlin, Gil Kane, George Perez, Norm Breyfogle, and others.  Malibu had also signed a videogame deal with THQ.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt; 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Marvel had just acquired 62% of toy company Toy Biz for the bargain basement price of $7 million in working capital, the Marvel toy license, and guaranteeing a $30 million loan.  Our article said, "For relatively minimal investment, Marvel has acquired control of a toy company with enormous potential (just think of the tie-in possibilities with the James Cameron Spider-Man film).  Isaac Perlmutter, who owns the privately held, New York-based Toy Biz, will contribute all of its assets and will become Chairman of the new Toy Biz line."  Avi Arad, then a star toy designer at Toy Biz came with the deal in an exclusive services contract (IC said it was "almost as important as the acquisition of control in Toy Biz").  Ron Perelman's MacAndrews and Forbes was borrowing $300 million to buy 20% of Marvel to add to the 60% it already owned.   (Note -- this implies a market cap of around $1.5 billion.  After tripling its stock price in the last nine months, Marvel's market cap has just crossed $1 billion for the first time in years).   That puts all the characters in the Marvel story in place.  Ten years later Isaac Perlmutter is the largest shareholder in the post-bankruptcy Marvel, Ron Perelman defaulted on his loans and lost control of Marvel, Avi Arad is Marvel's point man in Hollywood and executive producer of the hit Marvel movies, and after finally getting a Spider-Man movie made in 2002 along with two other hit movies, Marvel has finally crept back to 2/3 of the value it had ten years ago.  
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt; 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Kitchen Sink Press announced that it had acquired Tundra Press from founder and publisher (and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles co-creator) Kevin Eastman.  Scott McCloud's Understanding Comics was an important title named as part of the deal.  Kitchen Sink was also happily announcing that an animated show based on Cadillacs and Dinosaurs was going to be on CBS in the fall. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt; 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Fantagraphics was doing the Hateball Tour with Peter Bagge and Daniel Clowes (who more recently achieved a break-out level of fame with his creation Ghost World).  Clowes had just designed the Certified Cool logo for Capital City Distribution (which eventually sold it, along with most of its other assets, to Diamond Comic Distributors).  
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt; 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Capital and DC were collaborating on the Vertigo Spin Across America Tour with Neil Gaiman (accompanied by then Capital Ad and Promo Manager and current WizKids EVP Martin Stever); Chris Bachalo, Peter Milligan and Duncan Fegredo; and Jill Thompson, Grant Morrison, and Steve Yeowell.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt; 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Former Marvel and Valiant EIC Jim Shooter was talking about the new company, Defiant Comics, where he held the same role.  
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt; 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;On Capital's top 600 comic list, the #1 comic was Spawn #13, with Image holding eight of the top ten titles (Voyager/Valiant and Marvel had the other two) and twelve of the top 25.  Voyager/Valiant had two of the top 25, Marvel had six, and DC five (all Superman titles).  
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt; 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;In the game world, Games Workshop was switching its miniatures from lead to pewter due to health and regulatory concerns.  It also reorganized its miniature lines, but held prices at $4.99 per two-figure blisterpack.  
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt; 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;On the new game bestseller list, the Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting from TSR was #1, with the Vampire Players Guide from White Wolf #2 (CCGs hadn't been invented yet).   On the game backlist bestseller list were some familiar names -- Axis and Allies was #1, the Vampire RPG from White Wolf was #2, and TSR's Player's Handbook and Dungeonmaster's Guide were #3 and #4.  
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&lt;br/&gt;POGs (remember those?) were a craze in card shops.  
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&lt;br/&gt;On the video bestseller list, 14 of the top 20 were anime, including #1 title Sol Bianca, followed by Guyver, Odin, and Kabuto.  Two UltraMan titles were on the list between #15 and #20.
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&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;That issue of Internal Correspondence also premiered a new feature, a monthly column by Internal Correspondence editor (and ICv2 founder) Milton Griepp.   That month's column, titled "Crossing the Rubicon," was about the huge increases in comic shipments the preceding month.  Over 20% of the April 1993 comic dollars were in the ten Superman titles, and April comic dollars were over twice the size of the previous December's.   Griepp's comment on these shipments (which ended up being the biggest month in the modern comic industry, and the beginning of the crash that brought down Marvel and many other companies with it) was understated, to say the least, "Overall, it seems inevitable that there is going to be unsold product in the marketplace when the dust settles."   
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&lt;br/&gt;Griepp also sounded a cautionary note that foreshadowed the coming apocalypse.  "I believe that the best way to expand... is to expand the number of readers for comics," he said.  "Those stores that stress the enjoyment of comics and use the new interest in the medium to build their reader base will be the most successful.  Encouraging speculation, bulk purchases, and touting investment value will inevitably lead to long-term trouble for those retailers that use those practices.  ...I'm concerned about the negative practices described.  As a motivator to buy an entertainment product, excitement is good, greed is bad.  Ask the hundreds of card retailers that went out of business over the last few years."  
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      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2005 01:08:49 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>too many sequelz?</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Final paper; The Beatles Break-up The End of a Legend As they walked off the plane, thousands of people stood there to welcome them. They were screaming their names and singing their songs. Everyone had heard of them, they were the true meaning of rock and roll; they defined it. They were the biggest sensation since Elvis; they called themselves The Beatles. They had never expected to be the next sensation. No one ever expects to become a great legend in national or world history. It had taken them two years to establish the final four members, but once they joined together they were known around the world. Even though they were not the greatest guitarists, drummers, singers or musicians (Professor Joel Friedman, personal interview). As a whole they came together as a world champion team, like a finely tuned machine. But just as every dynasty has its finest hour they came to an end, just like any great thing. No one ever wanted or thought this miraculous band would ever cease to be. However, they did, but why is the question many people still ask today. They were four young men with a dream to play in a band. The members consisted of John Lennon, Paul McCartney, Ringo Starr, and George Harrison. The band was created in nineteen sixty, but the group was not fully established until nineteen sixty-two. This is when the name British Invasion first started to take acclaim. They toured around the world performing everywhere. Not wanting to ever stop for a second because of the love they all had for music and because of how hard they had worked to finally achieve what all human beings want, success. They had about seven great years together, at least from what the world new, but soon things started to change. The group began to have difficulties within themselves. Internal conflict is what brings all great things to stop working like clockwork. The question is what was so bad that this extremely talented group had to break up? There is much controversy to why the group broke up. Many people believed different things, the problems varied; the problems ranged from drugs to personal differences among one another. The group gave many interviews and had many discussions to why they had broken up, but still there are debates. People now are starting to come to the conclusion, that there is not one specific reason to why the exceptional band ended. Could the Beatles just have not had anything left to do with their music? According to The Beatles, written by Allan Kozinn, the Beatles had given seven great years of music, but the whole group wanted different things. In a personal interview done with Professor Friedman, the possibilities were endless to why they ended. Lennon had begun recording a record with his wife and felt it was in his best interests to go solo. McCartney, one of the key writers for the band, began creating songs solo. The band no longer worked as a group to accomplish things; they would just come together as one when they needed to record. The band started to feel that it would just be better to go on their own paths and see where they would end. Many people say this reason could not be true because all of the Beatles songs say written by McCartney-Lennon. McCartney and Lennon would no longer try to create songs together, or try to put music to what they had written. It got to the point were the only reason the songs were McCartney-Lennon was because Lennon might give his opinion if McCartney needed help, not because he wanted to help him write (Friedman). According to the web site, on March 30, 2000, www.askjeeves.com, Harrison had wanted more artistic freedom with his work, which was not possible. Harrison had become very interested in Indian music, culture and philosophy; he wanted to incorporate it into the Beatles music, but Lennon and McCartney would have no part of that. (Kozinn, 162). They believed that they were the two writers for the group, and did not want to incorporate Harrison's music into their band, therefore he felt as though he was being shunned from the group. This intimidated Harrison, which is not something that helped the band. When a member of a group does not feel 100% involved, it causes aggression and can lead to more controversy. Everyone in the group wanted to put in what they believed in, but they felt as though they could not. Which causes tension and controversy. Through out their entire career the Beatles have always had an idolization with Bob Dylan. While spending more and more time with Dylan the Beatles began to experiment in drug use along with him. However, Dylan and the Beatles are totally different personalities. Dylan being able to use drugs and still accomplishes his goals and in contrast the Beatles were not able to mix work with pleasure in that respect (VH-1, Behind the Music). Lennon had become too entangled into the drug scene. Lennon was having a very tough time in his life. He became bored with all the things that he used to love, touring and recording. He soon found something to replace the feeling of emptiness; experimenting with drugs. He was no longer part of the Beatles world; he was in his own. The drug use started fights among the members and soon it was impossible to establish any kind of agreement (Orman 12-13). The Beatles were soon unable to work together. By all consuming drugs and having that one thing in common led to a split between members because they all had different attachments to it. Another main reason that was speculated to why the Beatles had to come to an end was because of marriage and/or girlfriends. Lennon became very close with Ono. The two lovers became inseparable. They also wanted to start a family together and move on in life instead of staying in the same place. Their time together began cutting into their recording time, which made the others frustrated. The fact that Lennon had began recording an album with Ono caused much tension among the group. The group preferred recording in privacy, which Lennon did not understand. According to Kozinn it is ridiculous to blame Ono for the break up. Though she caused much tension, the reasons were much more complex and way beyond her (Konzinn 175). The group had always worked alone, and once things got tough and the group began to develop more and more trouble, Ono began to interfere more with the group, causing more problems (Friedman). Also, Harrison and Starr were married, and both of their families lived outside of London, which made recording and touring difficult. The Beatles wanted to spend time with their families and not have to leave all the time. Lennon especially was a main factor in the fact that the touring ended. He did not like to go out on tours; he also lost the desire to record music within the band. It had become routine to him, and he was sick of it. In an interview done with George and John in 1967 referring to stop touring, it was said that it was like an end of a cycle. When they were in Liverpool, it was like they understood the crowd, but once out touring around the world, it was different. There was a new different type of audience each day; it was no longer what they were use to (www.askjeeves.com March 30, 2000). As many old bands experience today when they go on tour they seem to not have the same crowd following. There include some old fans, new ones, and other people who would just go to see them because they never saw them and figured it would be fun. They were losing their fan base that believed in their music, and gained fans that just wanted to hear something. According to John, When we were away from it for a while it was like school holidays. You hadn't done any work for a bit and you just remembered the laughs. You looked forward to it again... until you got back and were fed up. But we've had enough performing now. I can't imagine a reason that would make us do any sort of tour ever again (www.davidsbeatles.com). Though the fans were disappointed and touring was hard on the members in the band. They wanted to make music and have fun, but touring was no longer fun for them, which hence forth, made creating new music no longer fun. In reference to the web page, www.ask.com as of March 24, 2000, in 1969 the group began to discuss ending the group and going there separate ways. Paul wanted perfection, John had Yoko, George wanted more artistic freedom and Ringo was tired of being just a drummer. They all urged for something more that could not be given to them if they kept doing what they were doing. Although it does not sound selfish and greedy it really was. Just as a dynasty begins to lose power because they want to keep expanding on what they already had their band lost power because of what they wanted to become. When Paul was asked to explain why the group had broken up he stated, Personal differences, business differences, musical differences, but most of all because I have a better time with my family. The other questions those many during this time were wondering; was it temporary or permanent? Paul answered, I don't really know. George Harrison was interviewed in 1971 about one year after the break- up. He stated that Paul John and himself have made so many songs of their own, that it is a good idea if they all go and make their own albums. Each of them wanted to play their songs their own way and not the way the others want. The only way to go about it was for them to break -up. George also said that they all have to try something different, and once they had maybe the Beatles' will work together again. It was all about compromise for George. Slowly the screams started to fade and soon the Beatles were no more. If only the group had learned to compromise to what the others wanted, and had stopped being selfish, the miraculous band would not have ended, but their stubbornness and their inability to listen is where their downfall was. There were so many reasons to why the band had to end, but the most prominent to me, was because they no longer were a band together; they were a band that had drifted and no longer combined their work, they just did what they had to do. Who knows where and what they could have done with there incredible talent. This amazing band changed rock and roll forever, and they will never be forgotten. Though the screams have stopped and the fans no longer are at the airport to greet them when they get off the plane, they will always be known as the band that changed music for the better. They will always live in the memories of what once was and of what became. They changed music to better suite the people of the day and they laid the foundation for the future of all musicians across the globe from present to future. People should not sit and ponder about why the Beatles broke up, but should think about the great memories they have provided for the entire world. How they helped make music what it is today for all music fans and for the children who will once listen to the great sounds which come out of the same stereos which once played the great music that Lennon, Harrison, McCartney, and Star magically fabricated. 
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&lt;br/&gt;Bibliography
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&lt;br/&gt;Cording, Robert…Ed. In My Life. Fromm International Publishing Co. New York. 1998 This book talks about how the Beatles influenced everyday peoples lives. Which is important to how they took the world by storm and how the people felt when they fell apart. It was because of the fans they were so great, so what they think and how they felt is substantial. Kozinn, Allan. The Beatles. Phaidon Press Limited. London, 1995 The Beatles whole history is recorded in this book. It contains how they started, became famous, and how they fell apart. Orman, John. The Politics of Rock Music. Nelson- Hall, Chicago. 1984 This book deals with the issues of John Lennon and his problem with drugs. This is an alleged reason that the Beatles broke up. www.ariz.com/beatles/index.html March 7, 2000 The Beatles dominated rock music in the 1960s, eventually broke up when they felt their possibilities as a group were exhausted http://www.getback.org/breflib/breakup.html March 7, 2000 this site explains why the Beatles broke up. It expresses that each one of The Beatles wanted to do there own thing. Paul had made the announcement there was a lawsuit issued by him. Which caused much controversy. He also stated that the Beatles would never again work together. http://rollingstone.tunes.com/sections/artists/text/bio.asp?afl=&amp;amp;LookUpString=868 March 7, 2000 John Lennon had wanted to part from the group before there actual break- up in 1970. Just before the group broke up, he had started recording with Ono, his wife. Because of Lennon's relationship with Ono, would cause great tension among the Beatles. In April McCartney -- in a move that Lennon felt was an act of betrayal -- announced his departure from the Beatles and released his solo LP. From this point on (if not earlier), Ono replaced McCartney as Lennon's main collaborator. The Beatles were no more. At the time, much attention was focused on Ono's alleged role in the band's end. 
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      <title>BE BOP DELUXE A Golden Goose :)</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;  BE BOP DELUXE
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&lt;br/&gt;This is my personal tribute page to Be Bop Deluxe, a great band from the 70's.  Bill Nelson was its guitar hero leader. 
&lt;br/&gt;They only made five original albums, and one live one, but they are all great. 
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&lt;br/&gt;Bill Nelson went on to making all kinds of electronic ambient music, and still does so today. Be Bop Deluxe were a mix of glam rock, electronic experimentation music, and straight out rock and roll. 
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&lt;br/&gt;They came out the same time, in the same genre', as David Bowie, and T Rex.  
&lt;br/&gt;Paul McCartney watched them record their first album at Abbey Road studios, and remarked that he was very impressed by their performance. 
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&lt;br/&gt;Bill Nelson is the epitome, and even characture of the blazing steel- breasted guitar hero.  His low, deep resonant tones, and the searing, melodic guitar solos emanating from his stereo, semi-acoustic, cherry sunburst Gibson 345 are his trademark. 
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&lt;br/&gt;His guitar playing, along with his offbeat, lyrical metaphors, make Be Bop Deluxe some of the greatest rock guitar music of all time. 
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&lt;br/&gt;Bill Nelson's guitar solo on "Adventures in a Yorkshire Landscape" from "Live In The Air Age" album is nothing less than magnificent. 
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&lt;br/&gt;It is some of the most musical, emotional playing I have ever heard. 
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&lt;br/&gt;It is very difficult to find Be Bop Deluxe CD's today. 
&lt;br/&gt;If anyone has trouble finding them I am open to trades. 
&lt;br/&gt;I also have a couple of DVD videos of them. The quality is not the best, but I am willing to trade for it.  
&lt;br/&gt;It is only available in the USA  NTSC format. 
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&lt;br/&gt;For much more Be Bop Deluxe and Bill Nelson information including biographies, and pictures, be sure to visit Bill Nelsons Official Site: 
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&lt;br/&gt;Permanent Flame - The Bill Nelson Web Site 
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&lt;br/&gt;I have found live video of Be Bop Deluxe that I have made into 2 DVD's, so if anyone wants to trade, or has any other video by them,  please contact me directly at: 
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&lt;br/&gt;BobbyShred@aol.com 
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&lt;br/&gt; Be Bop Deluxe Album Covers 
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&lt;br/&gt; Be Bop Deluxe Albums
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&lt;br/&gt;I have these Be Bop Deluxe CD's for trade.
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&lt;br/&gt;Axe Victim 1974
&lt;br/&gt;Futurama 1975
&lt;br/&gt;Sunburst Finish 1976
&lt;br/&gt;Modern Music 1976
&lt;br/&gt;Live in the Air Age 1977
&lt;br/&gt;Drastic Plastic 1978
&lt;br/&gt;Be Bop Deluxe Radioland BBC Radio 1 Live in Concert 1976
&lt;br/&gt;Raiding The Divine Archive - The Best of Be Bop Deluxe
&lt;br/&gt;Singles A's and B's
&lt;br/&gt;Be Bop Deluxe - Air Age Anthology 1997 2CD
&lt;br/&gt;Be Bop Deluxe - Tramcar to Tomorrow 1998
&lt;br/&gt;Best of - Homemade Favorites
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&lt;br/&gt;I also have some rare live CD's of the band for trade:
&lt;br/&gt;HAMMERSMITH ODEON 76
&lt;br/&gt;HIPPODROME 75 / SUPERSONIC 76 / OXFORD EARLY 78
&lt;br/&gt;MUSIC ARCADE BLUES - MARQUEE, LONDON 1976
&lt;br/&gt;RIVIERA THEATER, CHICAGO 76
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&lt;br/&gt;I have an original Axe Victim CD is someone is interested in buying it for $20.00. 
&lt;br/&gt;Please email me at Bobbyshred@aol.com 
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&lt;br/&gt; Be Bop Deluxe DVD Video
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&lt;br/&gt;I have found some live videos of Be Bop Deluxe that I have made into DVD's.  
&lt;br/&gt;The video quality is decent on these videos, but certainly not perfect. 
&lt;br/&gt;The video quality varies between the different clips on each DVD. 
&lt;br/&gt;Please see the pictures below for the actual screen shots. 
&lt;br/&gt;The DVD's have menus and chapters. 
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&lt;br/&gt;I am looking to upgrade these videos so if anyone has any video by them please contact me. 
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&lt;br/&gt; Be Bop Deluxe - DVD 1  Be Bop Deluxe- DVD 2 
&lt;br/&gt;The Old Grey Whistle Test 
&lt;br/&gt;Maid In Heaven 
&lt;br/&gt;Sister Seagull 
&lt;br/&gt;Ships In The Night 
&lt;br/&gt;Fair Exchange 
&lt;br/&gt;Forbidden Lovers 
&lt;br/&gt;Down On Terminal Street 
&lt;br/&gt;In Concert 
&lt;br/&gt;Fair Exchange 
&lt;br/&gt;Ships In The Night 
&lt;br/&gt;Bring Back The Spark 
&lt;br/&gt;Blazing Apostles 
&lt;br/&gt;Bill Nelson Interview 
&lt;br/&gt;With very short clips of: Ships In The Night,  
&lt;br/&gt;Kiss Of Light,  Do You Dream In Colour?, 
&lt;br/&gt;Flaming Desire,  and Maid In Heaven. 
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&lt;br/&gt;Approximately 75 minutes running time. 
&lt;br/&gt;Format: DVD-R  U.S. NTSC
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&lt;br/&gt; BBC Sight &amp;amp; Sound  
&lt;br/&gt;New Precision 
&lt;br/&gt;Superenigmatix 
&lt;br/&gt;Possession 
&lt;br/&gt;Dangerous Stranger 
&lt;br/&gt;Islands of The Dead 
&lt;br/&gt;Lovers Are Mortal 
&lt;br/&gt;Panic In The World 
&lt;br/&gt;Don Kirshners Rock Concert 
&lt;br/&gt;Bring Back The Spark 
&lt;br/&gt;Twilight Capers 
&lt;br/&gt;Modern Music 
&lt;br/&gt;Midnight Special 
&lt;br/&gt;Panic in The World 
&lt;br/&gt;New Precision 
&lt;br/&gt;Maid In Heaven - music video 
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&lt;br/&gt;Approximately 56 minutes running time. 
&lt;br/&gt;Format: DVD-R  U.S. NTSC
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&lt;br/&gt;If anyone wants to trade please contact me directly at; BobbyShred@aol.com 
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&lt;br/&gt; If anyone wants to trade for these Be Bop Deluxe DVD's 
&lt;br/&gt;please contact me directly at; BobbyShred@aol.com 
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&lt;br/&gt;The quality of these Be Bop Deluxe DVD videos is decent to poor. 
&lt;br/&gt;The video quality is not perfect, but they are watchable and sound halfway decent. 
&lt;br/&gt;The screen shots above should display some idea of the quality. 
&lt;br/&gt;Considering the rarity of the material, it is great to have them at all. 
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&lt;br/&gt;These old tapes have been transferred at the highest possible bitrate to DVD-R to preserve the maximum quality. 
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&lt;br/&gt;Once again, If anyone wants to trade for these Be Bop Deluxe DVD's,  or has any other Be Bop Deluxe video please contact me directly at: BobbyShred@aol.com
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&lt;br/&gt; Be Bop Deluxe Links 
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&lt;br/&gt;Be Bop Deluxe / Bill Nelson's Permanent Flame Site 
&lt;br/&gt;Bill Nelson's Official Site 
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&lt;br/&gt;Join the BeBopDeluxe@onelist.com 
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&lt;br/&gt;Rebuild The Twin Towers 
&lt;br/&gt;of the World Trade Center! 
&lt;br/&gt;We want the Twin Towers rebuilt! 
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&lt;br/&gt;It is now May of 2005.  New York Governor Pataki's plan of building the new  
&lt;br/&gt;Freedom Tower on the site of the  
&lt;br/&gt;World Trade Center has been scrapped because the NYC Police Dept. has said it is UNSAFE.! 
&lt;br/&gt;Donald Trump has now proposed that we rebuild the towers one story higher than they were. Trump says: 
&lt;br/&gt;"If we build the Freedom Tower, it's like the terrorists won."  
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&lt;br/&gt;The Freedom Tower plan "looks like a junkyard!" 
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&lt;br/&gt;"The last thing we need in New York is a skeleton representing the World Trade Center.  I think it's not an appropriate design." 
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&lt;br/&gt;I believe we MUST rebuild the towers to show the world that we have won. 
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