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Are Trekkies Vegan?

topic posted Tue, April 29, 2008 - 3:59 AM by 
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This is something I have been pondering for awhile now, and I want to see what this group of enlightened thinkers has to say on the subject.

If, in the future, it becomes possible to create a food synthesizer as portrayed in the Star Trek series, wherein any raw material can be broken down into its base molecules and reassembled as any food, would it then be considered Vegan to eat a synthesized steak, or some synth bacon. Health problems not being a factor (the machine somehow takes out the cholesterol, saturated fat, etc..without altering the taste or texture in any way) would replicating a burger still be non-Vegan? I really am stumped on this one.

Any thoughts?
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  • Re: Are Trekkies Vegan?

    Tue, April 29, 2008 - 9:23 AM
    I'm always saying that food in the matrix is vegan, since it's in your head. "I know this steak doesn't exist. I know that when I put it in my mouth, the Matrix is telling my brain that it is juicy and delicious."

    See? No moo cows were killed in the making of that steak. Vegan! Then I remembered that the stuff the people in the pods are fed is a goo made of dead humans.

    Now I'm wondering. The stuff the humans THINK they are eating is vegan, since it's imaginary. On the other hand, THEY think they are non vegan, since they think they are eating dead animals. However, because of the stuff they are being fed in reality, they are cannibals. What would you call them, and what do the people who are in the revolution eat?

    As for Star Trek, if they break down plants or rocks to make those fake steaks, they are vegan. If they break down cows or lizards or hamsters or mosquitos or Vulcans to make those steaks, they are not. That's my opinion of it anyway.
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      Re: Are Trekkies Vegan?

      Tue, April 29, 2008 - 2:44 PM
      yep the replicators are made of plasma energy I think, so definitely vegan...well elemental even! :-)

      as for trekkies. Fans of star trek are DEFINITELY not veg friendly at all...in fact even fans of the vulcans (who are a vegetarian race) are not even vegetarians...so they wear fake ears and go to work in uniforms, and try to live their life according to the "logic" principles of the vulcans but they can't even be vegetarian???

      there was a very interesting (and very odd) documentary on TV called "trekies" about star trek fans, and there is an entire city in Alberta, Canada I think that was renamed Vulcan...and the city I think has a huge statue of the enterprise to attract tourists, and the trekkies of the town were all dressed up as vulcans and having a BBQ with steak and burgers and hotdogs...and I was like wtf???

      plus the witers of star trek are VERY anti-vegetarian.. I had to stop watching the last show "enterprise" because it was so blatantly against my beliefs. From all the humans eating HUGE quantities of meat (ie: ALL vulcans are vegetarians and ALL humans eat steak kinda message) to the psychopathic doctor who actually keeps a menagerie of animals in cages to "use" to cure his patients.

      from what I remember "star trek voyager" was the most vegetarian friendly show... the first officer was vegetarian and the captain ordered vegetable bouillon all the time...plus because they were stranded and had to save their energy (not use replicators) the writers were smart enough to realize that produce was the most logical choice...they had an arboritum and they went on planets to find vegetables...although the crew all complained about the food and all wanted to eat turkey and steak with their replicator rations...and they had eggs A LOT which is like ...what???I'm sorry where are you gonna find eggs on a virgin planet? It's not like you're just gonna turn a corner and bam! four dozen eggs just lying around behind a bush.

      Oh and the vulcans are often showed as lacto-ovo which again makes no sense, because if the entire planet is vegetarian they probably wouldn't be raising chickens or cows for their products either.

      Star Trek the next generation was not veg friendly at all either (the captain once made a huge speech justifying animal testing) but there was this quote from the first season : (Riker was the first officer of the ship when he says "we" he means humans)

      "Riker: We no longer enslave animals for food purposes.
      Antican: But we have seen humans eat meat.
      Riker: You've seen something as fresh and tasty as meat, but inorganically materialized out of patterns used by our transporters.
      Antican: Sickening!"

      interesting that meat is referred to as "fresh" and tasty...I see how meat-eaters may see meat as tasty, but fresh??? really? How can dead flesh be "fresh"?? but i digress ;-)

      so if we were to legitimize the fiction of star trek, yes replicators would be vegan. well inasmuch as vegan means no animal products, but really there would be no vegetables in them either ...just energy ;-)

      but as for "trekkies" and the writers of Star Trek: definitely NOT vegan. Not at all.
      • Re: Are Trekkies Vegan?

        Tue, April 29, 2008 - 4:27 PM
        "so if we were to legitimize the fiction of star trek, yes replicators would be vegan. well inasmuch as vegan means no animal products, but really there would be no vegetables in them either ...just energy ;-) "

        Well, then we should defiantly go that way. I was just felling sorry for my green onions and alfalfa sprouts again the other night. I took the wilted sprouts, cut the roots off the onions, added water and put them in the yard to give them a chance. The soil is crappy here and it's been really hot out, so I'm afraid it's not much of a chance, though. :-(
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  • Re: Are Trekkies Vegan?

    Mon, June 2, 2008 - 6:54 PM
    In some specific episode of ST:TNG the "vegetarian" philosophy
    of the humans are explained.

    In "Enterprise", since Gene is dead... they changed that...
    (even though it is "before" TNG)

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