i seem to collect alot of dense energy or hucha in my lungs. any ideas for cleansing there?
normally i just sort of cough/vomit from my lungs then breath in fresh winds that does the trick but it feels like i have accumalted alot in there over the last few years with out really cleansing and it has been keeping my heart closed and made me feel week.
normally i just sort of cough/vomit from my lungs then breath in fresh winds that does the trick but it feels like i have accumalted alot in there over the last few years with out really cleansing and it has been keeping my heart closed and made me feel week.
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Re: cleansing hucha from the lungs
Wed, April 9, 2008 - 10:18 PMshit ay doesnt sound good bro
i would start with some eucalyptus oil in a water bath -
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Re: cleansing hucha from the lungs
Wed, April 9, 2008 - 10:31 PMVapo-Rub. No joke.. or some ore naturally occurring counterpart, such as menthol herb, mint, sages are Wonderful to help establish or re-form the bond between the awareness of the mind, and its effect on the conscious breathing..
However conscious breathing is probably what found you in this place, knowing the lungs are 'clogged'.
Stretching to open the chest, sitting upright with hands behind you will ease tight congestive feelings in the respiratory region. Pull it apart and loosen things up if you haven't taken the tie to focus on 're-shaping' this region of the chest. -
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Wed, April 9, 2008 - 11:47 PMmy dieta with ajosacha cleared all the crap out of my lungs. -
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Thu, April 10, 2008 - 1:05 AMno... i dont literally have stuff in my lungs, i have dense energy or hucha... my breathing is fine. you absorb it when around dense energy... ive been around very dense energy for damn near 5 years now.
anologous to the buddhist practice of breathing in the dark smoke of someones suffering, and then breathing out light... when i do healing work with some one i dont suck it into my gut i breath it in to my lungs then cough/vomit from my lungs so to speak...
in the andean tradition this dense energy is called hucha.
what i am asking about is the traditional way hucha is cleansed from the lungs? -
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Re: cleansing hucha from the lungs
Thu, April 10, 2008 - 1:17 AMthen do a medicine sing. -
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Re: cleansing hucha from the lungs
Thu, April 10, 2008 - 1:39 AMnot a bad idea...
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Re: cleansing hucha from the lungs
Thu, April 10, 2008 - 3:40 AMSweat lodge bro' and lots of dancing and singing'
Also get someone to wipe you down with their wand or other instrument to drag out stuck energies'
Lots of chicken broth also' and garlic'
Aya speaks here'
Also body threshing with netteles, and lots of hopping and dancing'
Aya'eee'a'
Blessed be'
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Re: cleansing hucha from the lungs
Thu, April 10, 2008 - 3:48 AMas i mentioned to LLB before i thought i would share here
lately i have been finding myself doing some interesting as i walk down the street
automatically when i pass some people actually most people i am finding myself hold my breath
i do not know why i am doing this but i have come to think that i am not wishing to breath in peoples essences, its something that i do not think about but has started happening as people gush past me leaveing a trail of them as they go
just something i thought i would share as it is kinda related.
i could do with a sweat myself actually. -
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Re: cleansing hucha from the lungs
Thu, April 10, 2008 - 10:17 AMi do that, too.
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Re: cleansing hucha from the lungs
Thu, April 10, 2008 - 10:23 AMI also hold my breath while walking by certain peoples too.
it wouldn't be bad to do a sweat, smoking mullein strongly, and using osha root to feed the stone people while doing it. smoking the mullein strongly (i also reccomend a strong mahogany leaf tea to drink while you are sweating), can help bring out energies stuck there. In chinese medicine, i use a ginseng that has spiritual effect on the lungs - Adenophora - Sha Shen. -
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Thu, April 10, 2008 - 10:28 AM"Adenophora - Sha Shen."
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Re: cleansing hucha from the lungs
Thu, April 10, 2008 - 10:39 AMmakes sense its an expectorant.
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Thu, April 10, 2008 - 11:29 AMthanks! i have this same issue! ... great to have it brought up here! ... i try to clear this dense energy in my lungs thru working on my heart chakra .... as it seems to "control" my lungs ... as i type this a blue jay lands 1 foot from me ... looking at me piercingly ... making me think about the heart chakra ... as the bridge between heaven and earth... as the black and white of this jay ... but he says also there is a connection to the throat and hands ... speaking truths being necessary... and protection of the hands may help while passing others ... for i also tend to hold my breath around the pain i feel emanating from some humans i pass. -
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Thu, April 10, 2008 - 11:34 AMi realize also that in holding my breath .. i am keeping energy from reaching my power center ... and my solar plexus feels tightened as i do this. ... i have heard the andean tradition teaches you to take in negative energies hru the power center ... and transmute them therein ... perhaps this is a key.
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Re: cleansing hucha from the lungs
Sun, April 13, 2008 - 12:14 PMHi Little Lightening Bolt,
This is probably not traditional but at times I have found it really helpful myself:
Before going to bed (or a nap, if one is fortunate enough to get one), lie on the back, place the finger tips along the length of the sternum in a gentle clawing like position. Apply a little pressure directly into the sternum and work to open the area by pulling the fingers in opposite directions. The fingers don't move too much they work more to pull the skin and muscles a little wider over the breastbone. Breathe and visualize the heart releasing and opening.
I have been able to release some heavy stuff this way.
Traditionally, from my limited experience, I would definitely say having someone lightly beat your chest with cedar or ruda (if you can get it where you are) would be great. Ideally, in some kind of ceremonial context.
...And failing all that, just have a good cry, brother, with lots of heaving sobs.
Hope that helps.
Take care,
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Sun, April 13, 2008 - 12:52 PM"Traditionally, from my limited experience, I would definitely say having someone lightly beat your chest with cedar or ruda (if you can get it where you are) would be great. Ideally, in some kind of ceremonial context."
thats a good one... the crying as well... -
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Sun, April 13, 2008 - 1:15 PMyep, that is sometimes the best cleanser of the soul. -
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Re: cleansing hucha from the lungs
Mon, April 21, 2008 - 10:55 PMso many great responses here
I often work this way to LLB- for me the key is to clear on my out breath immediatly, suck in and blow out and either into the earth or to my guides above
if it feels congested after the work, I do a steam w/ the oil of my choice- eucalyptus, lemon or rosemary- you get the idea- or like travis says a chest beating- in my region I would use Bay Laurel since I live in a Bay forrest.
blessings
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Re: cleansing hucha from the lungs
Tue, April 22, 2008 - 6:07 PMIt's funny that this thread came up again today (Hey Super G! :)
Just today on the subway I caught myself like immediately exhaling when somebody went by me, and trying to exhale all my breath. I realized that I had always done this, or have for a long time, and didn't really know why. I always thought it was some weird tic (may be! :) that when I smelled something bad I would breathe out so as to not have the smell in my mouth?!?!?! I know it sounds weird, but I think that was how my ego rationalized it, lol.
But then today I did it, and remembered this thread, and realized that my heart was probably guiding that process when this happened and exhaling any negative energies I picked up from someone. Cause you don't smell through your mouth do ya??? :)
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Re: cleansing hucha from the lungs
Thu, April 24, 2008 - 11:14 AMNever had a problem like that but have picked up rather bad stuff from people in crowded places. I always do a ritual honoring to the four directions and the Mother Earth. I also never miss a full moon. Smudging with mojave sage always seems to help me. The moon and the earth mother to me are two of the most powerful healers. Sonds like you are already on to those things LLB, but I wanted to chime in that they work for me. -
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Re: cleansing hucha from the lungs
Thu, April 24, 2008 - 11:51 AMthanks every one...
its not literal congestion...
its just heavy energy accumalated in the lungs. i know whats the differance...lol
the feeling is just a weakness, not a feeling of congestion... and there is a need to cough/purge it out. it can cause congestion and other health problems in the lungs but does not automaticly seem to manifest in such symptoms... one feels week, tired, unenthusiastic, ones heart is not "in it" what ever it is.
working in a pscyhe ward i absorb into my heart and lungs quite a bit of the sicknesses they have there... some times when it gets really heavy i will not hold my breath but blow those energies away, or surround my self with the song by breath whistling... transforming what i breath in into something beautifull and protecting, and medicinal.
having accumalted a lot i just need to do a cleanse focused on purging it out....
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Re: cleansing hucha from the lungs
Thu, April 24, 2008 - 12:26 PMOh I see what u mean- I thought you were clearing others in a healing work by sucking out their heavy energy
so In this case the I highly reccommend getting a selenite wand - I will try to find i a link for this- selenite is a master clearer- invaluable for working in a place like that- I would clear definatly after every shift and throughout the day if needed- if you fine a big enough wand you just run it over your body, meridians chakras etc- basically tune in and you will find your way w/ it
here are a few links- I have 2- one pocket size and one long sword- I keep both in a custom fit leather pouch- never get it wet and note that the surface scratches very easily- but do not underestimate the power of this alley!!! ALSO NOTE selenite is not expensive and as far as I am concerned, on of the best deals a shaman can have.....
www.healingcrystals.com/Wand_-...ds.html
www.lightworkersupplies.com/selenite.htm
store.stormsong.org/cart/pro...hed-point
here is a blurb I took from the second link:
Selenite opens, aligns and clears the aura. It is used to clear the mind and expand our awareness of ourselves as well as our surroundings. Senenite transmits light, energy and information which makes is useful for channeling as well as for healing. In meditation it can be used to access past lives or future lives. In healing, it can be used to remove blockages because of it's ability to transmit light.
To cleanse and recharge your crystals and stones, place them on a piece of Selenite. You can increase the energy of other stones by pointing a Selenite wand at them. Spirit Guides, Angels, Higher Beings or Totem Animals can all be more easily contacted using a Selenite Wand. Access your subconscious as well. These wands are very potent. Be careful of your thoughts when working with Selenite. Rub your Selenite in an outward direction with two or three fingers. At the same time visualize and ask to contact a guide. Selenite provides a bridge to other worlds.
Selenite is often used for clarity of mental processes. It was the original record keeping stone in Atlantean and Lemurian times. Using the same rubbing technique as for Past Lives, ask your Selenite for passage to particular areas of knowledge. Many times that knowledge is given to you in dreaming or while astral traveling.
It has been used to align the spinal column. It also promotes flexibility of the muscles. It is used to facilitate regeneration of the cellular structure. -
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Re: cleansing hucha from the lungs
Thu, April 24, 2008 - 12:26 PMoh and hi back Jav! -
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Thu, April 24, 2008 - 12:32 PMalso frankincense or palo santo oil on the feet and hands prior to your shift and or after - or keeping the bottle of oil on you, putting it on your hands and then using your hands to energetically wash over your entire body w/ long strokes to pull the energy off, being sure to dirrect the energy to the earth for composting or your guides for transforming
do you know the quechwa practice of digesting hucha? if not and you want to learn message me. it is amayzing! -
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selenite wands
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Thu, April 24, 2008 - 1:24 PMthanks G i have one around here some where lol... -
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Thu, April 24, 2008 - 1:39 PMlol!
it is also awesome for clearing metal and all jewerly-like when you buy a new piece of jewerly or have been wearing a piece for a while and know it has taken on some energy that needs clearing- this can be most useful for any and all body piercings!- good for dread locks too...
-I should note that my leather pouches are very soft so as not to scratch the surface of the selenite.... -
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Thu, April 24, 2008 - 2:22 PMalso note not for use with water :) -
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Re: selenite wands
Thu, May 8, 2008 - 11:11 AMYoga takes care of this denseness
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