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      <title>Current cameras</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;As of 7-1-05:
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&lt;br/&gt;Richoflex VII (TLR)  very clean, a little brassing on the metal and a soft spot on the veiwing lens
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&lt;br/&gt;Sunbeam Six Twenty (TLR)  don't know about it's condition yet, waiting for it to arrive. looks to be mostly metal, no leather(ish) skin.
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&lt;br/&gt;Marvel S-20 (box) New in the box!!!  I don't think this baby has had a roll through it... yet.
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&lt;br/&gt;Brownie six-20 (box)  very clean, minor wear on corners
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&lt;br/&gt;Agfa Shur-Shot Special B-2 (box) roughest looking one of mine so far. paint worn/chipped of several spots on the metal. some rust 
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&lt;br/&gt;Holga 120S (Toy)  bought it new, unmodified, have 6x6 and 6x4.5 inserts.&lt;/div&gt;
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      <pubDate>Fri, 01 Jul 2005 17:38:12 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>LINKS</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Please post any and all links to outside sources of information here.
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&lt;br/&gt;Hopefully, this will make them easier to keep track of and thus more useful to the group.
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&lt;br/&gt;Please give a brief description of what we can expect to find at the link source.&lt;/div&gt;
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      <pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2005 07:37:36 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>TLR beautyflex</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;has anyone heard of a TLR called "Beautyflex"
&lt;br/&gt;i founf on eat a thgrift store.  the only english on it is the name "beautyflex" everything else in the manual is chinise.  
&lt;br/&gt;has anyone heard of this one?  &lt;/div&gt;
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      <pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2005 01:21:24 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-07-19T01:21:24Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Camera fairs?</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Does anyone here frequent camera fairs in the US...and any recomendations for the 'best' ones they have found?&lt;/div&gt;
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      <pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2005 11:37:51 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>120, 220, 620 film... what's the difference.</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;The Medium format film was created specifically for the Kodak Brownie cameras back in 1900-1901. It was a very simple camera that was basically, fixed focus and "point and shoot." It had a single shutter speed. The "Brownie" camera took its name from cartoon characters that were popular at the time depicting mischievous but good hearted elves.
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&lt;br/&gt;Medium format means 120 and 220 size roll film. The film is on a spool rather than in a cassette.
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&lt;br/&gt;Just about every emulsion from the major film companies was available in 120 film. Most were available in 220 as well. The difference between 120 and 220 film was that 220 was twice as long and therefore holds twice as many images as 120. The spool sizes were the same. What differs is that 120 film has a paper backing that runs the full length of the film. 220 film only has a paper leader. Thus more film can be wound in the same space with 220.
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&lt;br/&gt;Essentially, 35mm film is a fixed size format: 24X36mm while brownie 120 format120 and 220 roll film can be used for several different frame widths and thus formats. The film is fixed at 6cm width so what varies is the length. The most common formats are, in Centimeters, — 645, 6X6, 6X7. The camera determines what "format" is shot onto the 120 or 220 roll of film. Some cameras had/have interchangeable backs which can change the size of the picture.
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&lt;br/&gt;Although bigger in size, a 6X6 camera is usually convenient because it makes it unnecessary to rotate the camera between horizontal and vertical pictures. A 6x6 would get 12 shots to one roll of 120 film.
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&lt;br/&gt;2 1/4" x 2 1/4" is the equivalent of a 6cm x 6cm film. This also works out to being about 56mm x 56mm.
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&lt;br/&gt;Another size you will see expressed in imperial units is 2x3 (actually 2 1/4 x 3 1/4) commonly known as 6x9cm.
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&lt;br/&gt;6cm × 7cm enlarges exactly to 8" × 10" paper, which accounts for its users calling it the ideal format.
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&lt;br/&gt;The term "645 format" is sometimes used when referring to an ordinary 120 or 220 film used in the 6 × 4.5 cm picture format. 645 format cameras will get 16 pictures per roll of 120.
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&lt;br/&gt;If bigger is better, why doesn't everyone use 6x7 cameras? The question here is quality vs. portability. 6x7 format cameras are heavy. They are basically made for studio use, whereas a 645 camera will give you the same portability as a high-end 35mm SLR camera. It's almost impossible to take 6x7 pictures without a tripod.
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&lt;br/&gt;620 cameraKodak introduced the Six-20 camera in 1931 and along with it the 620 film. About this same time Kodak stopped manufacturing the cameras that take the 120 film. In the United Kingdom, Kodak Ltd. manufactured a few models in the 1950's and '60's. The Six-20 was classified as a "pinhole" camera, the view finder is on top.
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&lt;br/&gt;620 film continued to be popular until the 1960's, when the introduction of the cartridge-loading Instamatics simplified the loading of film into cameras. The Brownie Reflex 20 was probably the last 620-film camera to be made by Kodak.
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&lt;br/&gt;Kodak stopped manufacturing the 620 film in the 1990s but 120 film can be used in a 620 camera because it is the same size film. The difference is that the 120 spool is larger in diameter than the 620 spool. The film is identical, so all that needs to be done is the 120 film can be wound onto a 620 spool. This is a two step process since the film has a start and an ending. First you would have to wind the film off onto a spare 620 spool and then wind it back onto another 620 spool. Naturally, you would have to do this in a dark room.&lt;/div&gt;
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Hopefully you are here because you share an interest in older cameras. Whether you are a collector or a user of older cameras, you are welcome here.
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&lt;br/&gt;Please feel free to post pictures you have taken with classic cameras.  If you have good samples of photos from older cameras, you are welcome to post those as well.  Please label all photos with the type of camera used and any other pertinent info.
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&lt;br/&gt;Links to good information sources are encouraged.  Please post them under the "Links" heading.
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&lt;br/&gt;All the standard rules of polite society are in effect.  Please show respect for your fellow members.  I am an active moderator, but hopefully I won't need to be!
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&lt;br/&gt;Enjoy and I look forward to sharing with you all.&lt;/div&gt;
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