Is anyone here familiar with the book The Gypsies by Jan Yoors?
www.amazon.com/Gypsies-Ja.../0881333050

Does anyone know if the story he tells is true (which he claimed) or a fabrication (which seems likely)? Does anyone know what the reaction in the Roma communities he describes was, to his publishing the book (which I think happened in the 70's, whereas the events are supposedly from the 1930's)?



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  • From my understanding what he claimed was essentially true, he appears to have quite a substantial body of photograpic evidence (that he shot) of his travels, friends, and associates pre ww2. He also seemed to have kept a good deal of the contacts with the Roma community that he befriended / was befriended by, after the war when he emmigrated to the US. Saddly as he describes in various writtings many of the Roma that he knew or were aquinted with in Europe prewar perished in the Holocaust / O Parrajmos.
    As with anyone's personal memoirs there certainly is an amount of embelishment that is unavoidable, and I would suspect romantisizing of times past.
    Duane
    • Thank you. That's my understanding of the official story, but I'd like to ask, without being disrespectful- where did you hear this? What I know of the story is from press articles from the 1970's. I'm hoping to find independent corroboration of this from the Roma community- the grandchildren of the people he describes in the book are still alive, and surely this book would have caused a stir when it came out.

      Also, his photos are from a later period, when he was an adult (50's or 60's, I do'nt have the book in front of me at the moment).

      The reason I'm asking all of this is because I was considering working on the Wikipedia entry for Jan Yoors, fleshing out a bit of the information there with some info about that book, but I wouldn't want to do so if the story was mostly fiction. I'm struggling a bit with whether it's disrespectful to question it.

      I think that what makes me concerned is that:
      a) is it really possible that the event he described, his 'adoption', could have happened
      b) At the end of the book he mentions the WWII fate of some of his friends, and the survival of some through the horrors of the Holocaust. There is no hint that he himself participated in the war. Afterwards, he went on to write a book about his own heroics in the French resistance, which if I understand right (I haven't read that one) included working with his Roma contacts. I'm surprised that in The Gypsies he gives no hint of this- almost makes me wonder if the second book is a fiction that he hadn't yet written at the time. He was certainly an amazing individual in every other respect and I wouldn't be surprised if an artist of this caliber could have written such a story just from doing independent research later.

      I have to admit I feel bad about asking all of this without just asking his son, whom I've met in the distant past, and who curates the Jan Yoors website, but I would love to hear some independent corroboration of his story before working on institutionalizing it on the web.
      • I deffinately don't think it is a direspectful question, to question what is/has been essentially a one sided story that has been told. I've read a few articles that seem to lend some creedence to what he days, I also have a book of his photography (prewar through the 60s or so) that has a nice forward by Ian Hancock, which hopefully imparts some sense of validity to the stories told.
        I think that the issue of his "adoption" could certainly have happened, I think children tend to be the most "colour blind" and adults tend to be a bit more easy on a child "outsider" than a full grown adult walking into their community unannounced (Kids tend to lack the agenda that adults usually have.... we'll except to play and get into mischief.)
        I would imagine that there are still folks around that either personally remember him or have parents that had personal recollections of him. After all its not that long ago. I'd be very interested to know what else you find. I think that there is always the case that someone who crosses cultural "boundries" will have their detractors, I suspect that Jan is not with out them. But as you mentioned someone of his caliber and renown seems a bit less likely to need to fabricate tales. No single person could ever produce a deffinative "story" of a group of people, or accurately relate the reality of existence of everyone from the group being written about. (I guess if that weren't the case there would just be one fairly bland book called "Humans" that every history course and anthro proffesor assigned and that was it.... maybe this is the case on an other planet ;)
        I'll see if I can find the articles that made mention of / were about Jan. Keep me posted !!!!

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