Hippies

topic posted Tue, January 23, 2007 - 10:48 PM by  offlinekyle
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Hippies ... it would be fun to have one catchy term for the current "scene".

"Indigos" rings beautifully. I like the word indigo. I wonder if it could work? Indigo children strikes up too many unrelated associations with Indigo Children.
Hippies ... it would be fun to have one catchy term for the current "scene".

Burners is a possibility but probably has issues, just like the 3 guys who "own" BM are now in a lawsuit from what I hear. I feel like "burners" is just a tangential term and refers to too much and too little.

Freakers gets used a lot, but just doesn't sound that fun to me.

Techno tribal pagan is clutzy

There *are* many tribes involved.

Technology is totally involved - psychedelic art is done more and more on computers, music is done more and more on laptops, people connect more and more via tribe.com and as well as on the more general public myspace.com.

There is an appreciation for metal, feathers, leather,crystals,stones, bones, tatoos ie old tribal symbols.

Psytrance in Australia and Europe seems similar to the feel I get in the Bay Area but ironically many of the Bay Area people can't stand trance anymore though most of them loved it 10 years ago. Trance seems a bit Walt Disney of psychedelic music with the gaudy decorations and dayglow colors. Many of the Bay Area trancers went more tribal, leather, fur, piercings and cirque (Cirque Berzerk, Vau de Vire, El Circo, Mystic Family Circus) and their music turned more Break Beats, IDM, glitch, psydub and now dubstep.

I feel a similar attraction to the Trance culture but I feel much more mystery and beauty around Oracle Gatherings or Synergenesis (though I can go off on their shallowness and consumerism but I can leave that to someone else and just revel in the beautiful part).

My wonder is of an unknowable, unfathomable beauty, richness in life that I can only wonder at and I see an acknoledgement of this ineffiable vastness of being expressed in the community through art, dance, music, free-form community revels and of course inner exploration.
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kyle
SF Bay Area
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    Re: Hippies

    Wed, January 24, 2007 - 8:37 AM
    ohhh. no. i totally disagree. the moment something is catagorized and named is the moment it is over. this is organic and alive. please do not kill it.

    with all due respect,
    ~k~
    • Re: Hippies

      Tue, January 30, 2007 - 2:40 PM

      I've wondered about photos or writing killing the magic. The magic I feel at times seems almost sacred as if a camera would be irreverent such as at Burningman or underground "ecstatic rituals" ( I like that name from Barbara Ehrenreich "The Suppression of Collective Joy").

      Over time the photos though seem to bring happiness to people and the more I take the more people react positively thus I've been encouraged to do more. I love taking the photos and trying to capture the elusive magic. Does that kill the magic? I think it has potential to mislead other into try to recapturing the magic in ways that miss the boat, such as copying the dress and looks thinking that will recreate the the energy they imagine in the photos. The looks and costumesseem to be more and more emphasised and there seems to be less awareness on the moment and the energy in the short time I've been out dancing. Do I think the magic is dying - no. I think the magic is ever elusive. Those nights where I've been like "I love this venue, the people who are coming, the DJs and musicians and it's going to rock" and it fizzles. ON the other hand I've been pulled reluctantly into small events not knowing who was going or playing or even where we were going and had times of mind bending magic.

      I love the costumes, the dress, the attitudes, the music. The magic has a life of its own beyond all of this, but I think being in a group of people looking for the magic it happens from time to time.

      But because photos can be misleading, I do want to have text along with the photos that for one points out that it's not just costumes that creat the magic. I also want to explain the magic for those who are so far from the photos with text that the photos are almost inaccessible, which I think is the majority of people. The people I've know most of my life find the photos to far removed from their experience to make head or tails of them.

      Does a work kill something? Did the word "Hippies" kill the hippies? I know the hippies hate the word. I never did. I grew up in the 70s and was always fascinated by the hippies, that culture that I had just missed.



      • Re: Hippies

        Tue, January 30, 2007 - 3:45 PM
        The hippies didn't like being labelled as hippies because the mainstream culture used the term derogatoraly and the connotations became overwhelmingly negative. Some hippies decided to rebrand their counter culture revolution as the "yippies" but that didn't catch on. The 60's counterculture revolution, which started with the beats in the 50's and the dragged well into the 70's was born out of San Francisco. The 90's counterculture revolution was also born out of San Francisco. They're called burners and they're are many parallels between the two flowerings. The revolution of the hippies was against the restrictive society which was overdue for a civil rights movement, an end to the war, education reform, etc. Mainstream America pretended their objective was drugs, rock music and denim but of course there was a lot more to it than that. Likewise, the revolution of the burners is a rejection of the TV culture which wants us to live our lives vicariously. To go to the desert is to extricate ourselves from the mass media so we can live our own lives in ways undreamt of by marketting executives.

        Our counterculture flowering is getting long in the tooth as well. It's spread across the country (and the world) and has gained widespread media attention. Most burners don't mind the label of burner, yet. Soon that will probably change as the media marginalizes our event as a drug rave with costumes. Already, the event has changed because of this perception. 7-10 years ago, Burning Man was much different. It was much more about individual self expression. Now it's about dancing to other people's music. The oddball musical ensembles are few and far between having been replaced by dj booths. Costuming aside, there isn't nearly as much participation. There's still infinitely more than in the living rooms of the real world but less relative to where Burning Man started from.

        Looking ahead into the future, I think burner aesthetics will be incorporated into the mainstream. Kids will be able to dress more outrageously without being called a fag. Just like the kids of the 80's could get away with wearing long hair, ripped jeans and a tie dye. And to be fair, the hippies didn't really lose. Though our policies may not reflect it, people are much more aware of the peace movement, a more nomadic lifestyle and environmentalism. Likewise the burners will push their urge to live amazing lives into the mainstream world. Burners have forever changed the world which will soon be waiting for the next explosion of resistance to the predominant world culture.

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