Hello Everyone,

I just received a message from Victor Tella. He is has been kind enough to donate 4 new whips to be used as loaners for Whip Works. As some of you may know Victor was a member and educator in the San Francisco BDSM scene for many years and still tries to help out our local community where he can. I don't know of another whip maker anywhere that would be willing to donate whips so that people can learn to throw. When it comes time to buy your first whip or you next whip let give a little back and order from him www.snakewhip.com From a personal standpoint 3 out of the 4 whips I use in every scene I do were made by Victor two of them are 10 years old and still throw like a dream.
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Daddy
SF Bay Area
  • Wow. That is amazing. Kudos to Victor. I know where I am getting my next singletail.
    • I know where I am getting my next singletail.

      That's the spirit. You will love it once it's broken in. He's a big fucker so he plaits really tightly so they take a little time to break in but they also last forever.
      • Re: "last forever"

        Thu, December 13, 2007 - 10:27 AM

        "...a little time to break in but they also last forever."

        Kind of a new thread, but what about that lasting forever thing? I wonder what the longevity IS of quality whips, when carefully treated with dressing, kept in correct environments, not mistreated or dragged across bad ground, etc.?

        I was reading an interview with Peter Fiske (sorry if I misspelled it) a while back, and I thought he said (although he's got a usable whip in his collection from something like 1830 or 1840) that the usual lifetime of a leather whip is something like 40 - 50 years, if I remember correctly. But he didn't explain why he thought that would be, or the factors that would influence the lifespan. I don't have contact information for him, so I can't ask him to elaborate. I'm wondering if anyone's researched this at all, and has any information?
        • Re: "last forever"

          Mon, December 17, 2007 - 8:25 AM
          I'm wondering if anyone's researched this at all, and has any information?

          I have heard people say similar things. I think that after 40-50 years the fibers in the leather become brittle and begin to come apart eventually even if you treat it well. If I get 40 years of play out of a whip I would certainly feel like I got my moneys worth. I have had three different whips that became basically useless in under 3 years. Two were Morgan signals and one of unknown origin that was very pretty but was useless almost from the start and just got worse from there. It is the only 4' signal I have ever held that I couldn't hit a 2" circle with. It almost had a mind of it's own. Just when I would figure out how to compensate enough to get into the 2" circle it would change a few throws later. I gave it to someone that only wanted to practice cracking. I still have one of the Morgans if you want to see it at the next group.
          • Re: "last forever"

            Mon, December 17, 2007 - 1:17 PM
            40-50 years seems logical, but I haven't researched it.
            A gray kangaroo lives an average 10 years, a red kangaroo 15-20. Not sure which is used for whip leather. Makes sense, though that the skin of an animal, even when preserved by tanning and supplemented by conditioner, can only hold the integrity of its fibers for so long--2-4 lifetimes' worth of use would be doing pretty well.

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