This has been a topic of discussion among the belly dance world since I've been around. So I'm willing to bet it's been much longer since the discussion started.
It's hard, even when speaking with someone FROM the country of origin to really nail down what's correct in their dances. But usually, in my experience, a very close approximation will make natives of the culture happy. I think it's the dancer ultimately who is hardest when authenticity comes into play.
It seems a dance performed by a non-native is scrutinized moreso on the basis of the feeling of the dance. Sure, the movements need to be right, the costuming has to be close enough to be recognizeable, but the feeling or tone with which it is performed speaks out louder than those things.
There are couple of concepts in Central Asian dance that address this. And no, I am not a scholar in this subject so I may be a bit off.
One of these feelings is known as kaif. Kaif is a sense that closely resembles exctasy or perhaps it would be better described as a peacfeul exctasy. It's not an overflowing, in your face, hippie at woodstock kind of emotion, but it can be much more impactful.
You can see kaif in this video of a Uygher dancer. She isn't doing much for awhile there, but you might be able to see what I'm talking about: www.youtube.com/watch
Another such emotion is known as noz. Central Asian dances come from primarily muslim societies where women who dance out in public in the first place are frowned upon. But those who do dance reflect a subtle expression of emotion expected of women. NOZ is a very subtle coquettishness that may go un-noticed by people from a more brazen culture. I can't find a good video fo it, but it can often be characterized by looking at the audience out of the corner of the eye rather than in the eye and by use of hiding behind the hands. There are een movements that mimic hiding behind and peeking out from under the veil.
It's hard, even when speaking with someone FROM the country of origin to really nail down what's correct in their dances. But usually, in my experience, a very close approximation will make natives of the culture happy. I think it's the dancer ultimately who is hardest when authenticity comes into play.
It seems a dance performed by a non-native is scrutinized moreso on the basis of the feeling of the dance. Sure, the movements need to be right, the costuming has to be close enough to be recognizeable, but the feeling or tone with which it is performed speaks out louder than those things.
There are couple of concepts in Central Asian dance that address this. And no, I am not a scholar in this subject so I may be a bit off.
One of these feelings is known as kaif. Kaif is a sense that closely resembles exctasy or perhaps it would be better described as a peacfeul exctasy. It's not an overflowing, in your face, hippie at woodstock kind of emotion, but it can be much more impactful.
You can see kaif in this video of a Uygher dancer. She isn't doing much for awhile there, but you might be able to see what I'm talking about: www.youtube.com/watch
Another such emotion is known as noz. Central Asian dances come from primarily muslim societies where women who dance out in public in the first place are frowned upon. But those who do dance reflect a subtle expression of emotion expected of women. NOZ is a very subtle coquettishness that may go un-noticed by people from a more brazen culture. I can't find a good video fo it, but it can often be characterized by looking at the audience out of the corner of the eye rather than in the eye and by use of hiding behind the hands. There are een movements that mimic hiding behind and peeking out from under the veil.
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Re: Authenticity
Sat, October 6, 2007 - 5:38 PM
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Re: Authenticity
Mon, November 19, 2007 - 10:37 PMI think capturing the feel of a dance is just as important as getting the steps right, but I've noticed so many people in folk dance classes I've been in just don't care about it, they just want to do the movements, and they end up looking so off.
It's great having youtube now, to actualy be able to see natives dancing and pick up the feel, or manerisms.
Maybe some people who aren't native are so concentrating on 'doing it right' that they are afraid to let go and have fun.
The concept of Kaif , aka Keyif - Turkish, Kef- Armenian, Kefi- Greek, Tarab- Arabic, or Duende Spanish) is important enought to be identifyed in all those countries.
Naz ( look) is used so much in Armenian, Persian, and related countries, but I notice it seems to be not as common at least in parties, but still there in the Classical form. -
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Re: Authenticity
Fri, November 23, 2007 - 3:21 PMHey Yasemin! Please keep posting what you know! I'm always anxious to learn from others who know more than I do!
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