Tribal must go Hollywood

topic posted Mon, March 12, 2007 - 1:55 PM by  Eva
If you watch any Bollywood Movie, you find dance everywhere. What about Hollywood? I'd love to see anything from Mummie to Matrix or Blade, that shows at least a fusion dancer or - how they make it in Bollywood - a whole group - or is it to much for the nobellydancingatallaudience. I don't think so - or should Shakira be the only one known by everyone for her 'bellydance'. Or did you see the skorpion king - I mean - what's this?
I thought America is the place where every dream can come true - here's my dream!
Or what happend during the centuries that took the dance away from our daily live?
God - I want the dance back!
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Eva
offline Eva
Austria
  • Re: Tribal must go Hollywood

    Tue, March 27, 2007 - 1:06 AM
    Well, you need to watch older films!
    There was a lot of singing and dancing going on in films in earlier years.
    I recently watched some films with Marilyn Monroe or Elvis and thought to myself: "Hey, just like Bollywood movies, only shorter!" :-)
    • Re: Tribal must go Hollywood

      Tue, March 27, 2007 - 3:06 AM
      Thank you, Meissoun for that answer from you as a specialist of indian dance and Bollywood - n'est ce pas?

      I didn't think about Elvis, but as you said, idea! I mean I haven't forget those Musical and Dance Films like "Dirty Dancing" ... either. And I'm sure if we surch we'll find some short cabaret style in one or another Bond Film too.
      I just thought about modern movies like Matrix or Lara Croft or Blade or The Mummie or whatever. And wished they would have put some fusiony dance into it to spice it up!

      By the way, would be interesting to look for some old hollywood film material (something around Mahmoud Reda) with cabaret in it. They had something even before Elvis, i just heard rumours. If anyone has a film title or could tell me where that's availiable, would be great.
      • Re: Tribal must go Hollywood

        Tue, March 27, 2007 - 4:24 AM
        What exactly do you mean with "cabaret"? Cabaret dance? American cabaret bellydance?
        There's a list of films and TV shows with Oriental dancers in them:
        www.boulderbellygrams.com/in%20...es.htm
        www.boulderbellygrams.com/belly...TV.htm
        • Re: Tribal must go Hollywood

          Tue, March 27, 2007 - 4:50 AM
          Hm - nicht verzagen, Meissoun fragen!
          Dankeschön!!!
          Bussi
          • Re: Tribal must go Hollywood

            Tue, March 27, 2007 - 10:36 AM
            Hallo Zusammen,

            ich bin mir jetzt nicht so ganz sicher: deutsch oder englisch.. egal, oder?

            hm, ich bin mir nicht so sicher, ob Tribal jetzt unbedingt von Hollywood beeinflußt werden muß oder soll????
            warum muß Hollywood mit Bollywood verglichen werden.... eigentlich kämen wir von Hölzchen aufs Stöckchen mit diesem Thema...
            steht es uns nicht selbst frei, uns einer Filmmusik zu bedienen und was eigenes damit zu machen? Muß die Inspiration dazu aus Hollywood kommen? für mich persönlich muß ich sagen, ganz sicher nicht! Inspiration kommt woher auch immer, und manchmal aus den seltsamsten Momenten :-)

            zu älteren orientalischen Filmen mit Tanz würd ich als Lektüre das Buch von Nelly Mazloum "Oriental Dance Technique" empfehlen. Darin sind jede Menge alter Fotos von Auftritten und Filmen zu finden. Mit deren Hilfe lassen sich sicherlich auch irgendwo die entsprechenden Filme "auftreiben".

            viel Spaß

            Gauri
            • Re: Tribal must go Hollywood

              Thu, March 29, 2007 - 12:52 AM
              Hi, Gauri!

              I'll continue in English, I want our tribal sisters from the US being able to reed that too, if they'll find it. Of course we all won't need Hollywood to inspire us to Tribal and I'm not here to compare Hollywood and Bollywood. I just wished to see Tribal in US-Moovies, cause there might be people who've never seen oriental dance or Tribal. Haveing Tribal in the Movies could be like haveing Shakira in the Charts, ATS in everyone's mouth!
              I also think dance is an art form that is created for the very moment, and esp. Tribal Improv is always new and unique. A painting you can put on the wall. A CD you can put into your player. The dance you once saw just lives in your memory.
              If you think about ancient times, esp. arabic-andalouse the Muwaschachat/Samai Taquil is an example for that: those times they had wars and religious conflicts and what died was the dance. They destroyed it's pictures ... now we don't know exactly how it looked like and which steps they used. Dance is like a living foreign language (is that well translated?)
              Why don't we save more of our dances for everyone, why don't we put it in our movies? And why don't the US-People show, that ATS is their modern Bellydance? A Fusion of everything all around the world - no limits - the Bellydance of the Future!
      • Re: Tribal must go Hollywood

        Thu, January 10, 2008 - 12:15 PM
        I just joined the tribe and reading through the posts .... a little bit of fusiony dance is in the Queen of the Damned (if you look up the bar scene on youtube you ll find it )
        I think there is a lot of inspiration in the movies, maybe not dance, but costumes and accesoires ;-) Especially historical movies :-P

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