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Re: the fear factor...
Sun, May 11, 2008 - 6:22 AMok...
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Sun, May 11, 2008 - 6:25 AMGive up all resistance to the fear. Feel it, don't think about it, analyze it, judge it. Just feel it in your body. Where is it? -
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Sun, May 11, 2008 - 6:37 AMso far as I can tell it is in the marrow and then just about everywhere else aswell...
inside and outside and physical and emotional and intellectual and financial and etc...
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Sun, May 11, 2008 - 6:48 AMFeel it.
Locate its center in your body.
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Re: the fear factor...
Sun, May 11, 2008 - 6:56 AMprobably between the shoulders if anywhere...
or maybe the 666 at the base of the spine...
does the physical location dictate the quantity of crack and vodka and hookers I'll need as effective therapy...? -
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Sun, May 11, 2008 - 7:03 AMThe only therapy is attention. Your fear will pursue you, so long as you turn away from it. Turn to face it, embrace it with your attention, and it will dissolve into mist.
But first you must find it.
Close your eyes and take a few slow, deep breaths. Then tense all your muscles throughout your body for a moment. Now relax.
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Sun, May 11, 2008 - 7:13 AMI kind of did stuff like this instinctively for a few years already but probably did it wrong... hahaha
in physical symptoms the right shoulder was debilitatingly painful and the neck and joints are key points but from that stuff it goes everywhere so can't localise the source...
hey it's like matrix...
I need to fight my way to the source and explode... hahaha
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Re: the fear factor...
Sun, May 11, 2008 - 7:24 AMSounds like its center is in the area of your shoulder and neck.
Keep your attention there.
Get out of your head and into your shoulder and neck. Don't try to change what you feel there, just keep your attention there. -
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Sun, May 11, 2008 - 7:46 AMwhat drugs at what dosage should I use to get out of my head...? -
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Sun, May 11, 2008 - 8:04 AMAll the chemicals you need are already in you.
Attention! -
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Re: the fear factor...
Sun, May 11, 2008 - 8:15 AMbut isn't distraction the thing to do...?
since when do I have a kilo of crack in me...? -
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Sun, May 11, 2008 - 8:28 AMYou have more cracks than I can count...
Distraction perpetuates fear.
Pump it full of attention. -
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Sun, May 11, 2008 - 10:04 PM<Distraction perpetuates fear. >
By george I think you might be right.
something to mull over. Thanks. Mr. Od
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Sun, May 11, 2008 - 9:23 AMso od...
what you are saying is that the body has all the alcohol and nicotine it needs and if you consciously focus attention on all the pain and fear then you can be homeless and have a good time without having to buy meths and smoke dogs...
but then how do you get a GF if you ain't supplying the juice and smokes...? -
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Sun, May 11, 2008 - 9:25 AMSeems like you're not so scared anymore, now that you're plotting how to get a GF... -
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Sun, May 11, 2008 - 9:40 AMjust curious how an internal zen pharmacological supply would impact on the socio-eco...
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Sun, May 11, 2008 - 9:56 AMLiving "off the grid" is the wave of the future.
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Sun, May 11, 2008 - 10:16 AMyeah but you know what people are like...
as soon as they catch on they'll be stealing the crack from your veins... -
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Sun, May 11, 2008 - 12:00 PMThat's more trouble than it's worth, when you can grow your own. -
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Sun, May 11, 2008 - 12:13 PMI tried growing my own and every time it got stolen...
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Sun, May 11, 2008 - 9:23 AM"You need to name stress in the body, because the body is its home. It creates knots in the stomach, tension in the neck, headache and exhaustion. In a way it's because you aren't noticing how your body feels that your mind becomes so worried and overwhelmed. First of all look to see where the trouble is living in your body and name the worry there. You might notice that your jaw feels like it is cast in iron, and you name "Angry Mind!". Or perhaps one of your children has rung with a problem that you can't help -- and your stomach has tensed up with fear. Just saying "I'm frightened" and noticing the tension means you have taken a moment to look after yourself, a moment to heal your own stress."
I hereby christen thy fear "Fred."
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Sun, May 11, 2008 - 3:24 PMGreat link -- "How shall we have the hours we don't want, the time we feel should not be (h)ours?"
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Sun, May 11, 2008 - 2:35 PMor: I'm scared...
Cool. People usually have to pay for that kind of service.
Or: any suggestions...?
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Re: the fear factor...
Sun, May 11, 2008 - 2:51 PMwell the ideal scenario might be like getting rescued and relocated somewhere sane and friendly...
so any insights on how to hitch a ride on passing spaceships...?
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Sun, May 11, 2008 - 3:41 PMor: well the ideal scenario might be like getting rescued and relocated somewhere sane and friendly...
Sane and friendly is where you make it.
or: so any insights on how to hitch a ride on passing spaceships...?
Sure, get an electric thumb. -
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Sun, May 11, 2008 - 3:52 PMsane and friendly advice as usual... hahaha
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Sun, May 11, 2008 - 10:08 PM<Are you pumping it up or letting it go?>
sometimes you have to pump it up before you let it go...
(i'm speaking metaphorically but of course..it's literal sometimes...I'm deflating the double entendre)
but I really do think it's so...for some people in some circumstances..sometimes..
(while I don't advocate the oh-so-popular strategy of bottoming out) -
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Mon, May 12, 2008 - 2:55 AMso does bottoming out mean like middleaged spread...
or is it the idea that you can't resist when the universe drags you down so you just have to keep falling and see if you eventually get helped or buried etc... -
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Mon, May 12, 2008 - 3:01 AMI am against middle-aged spread..middle-aged people should be freezed dried and consumed by astronauts on their way around and around the planet on which we live.
just keep falling...that's what comes naturally. -
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Mon, May 12, 2008 - 3:16 AMyup I should be harvested and recycled...
all this new age spiritual talk about consciousness and ultimately it's a very bad idea...
youtube.com/watch
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Mon, May 12, 2008 - 3:43 PMI'm afraid you need to look at your fear, enhance it, playwith it, scare yourself silly. Go forge for food, eat some nettle soup, stay outside and sleep under the sky and imagine monsters in the bushes then look at the moon. -
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Mon, May 12, 2008 - 3:49 PMthat sounds a bit too much like what I've been doing for the last 6 years and beyond...
how about...
I get adopted by paris hilton who sets me up with a trustfund and I sleep in warm clean hotels with room service and I look at a big flatscreen tv... -
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Mon, May 12, 2008 - 7:24 PMyou are always online, when do you have time, Orpheus, to be outside and do those nature fear bonding things?
You are a starving artist who smokes pot all day long, and wonders why the universe wont deliver Paris Hilton, not that there is anything wrong with that, not that we havent all done that at times, its just when the money runs out, you go out into the world and face your fears... In the process of doing that the Paris Hiltons of the world appear and give you free sex. Wait, sex isnt ever free, scratch that one. -
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Mon, May 12, 2008 - 7:36 PMIf you do find Paris, you must give her to me. -
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Tue, May 13, 2008 - 2:41 AMI left paris 6 years ago because I had a fling with milan but somehow got dumped by both and got stuck and left to die in this evil backwater...
the first year and a half I had money and then the good lord of nature gave me some pot but for the last 5 years I've had nada...
thus total decline in health and desperate attempts to surf up redemption and/or escape whilst quitting alcohol and meat and cigs etc...
reiki and the secret didn't work for me yet...
all this poverty and isolation amidst a provincial and unfriendly population with a depressive negating xenophobic culture fueled by alcoholism and other addiction pathologies whilst maintaining the status quo by petty undermining strategies of various networks of dodgy hand signals and sexual perversions and bureaucratic reptilian cliques is not much fun...
can some billionaire please save me by buying my crappy art or creating some pointless salaried sinecure job as a token eurasian where I can go and live in luxury in a classy urban multicultural ghetto in a city like SF where I can not feel totally oppressed but rather sustained and nurtured and get some respect and tantric masseuses to relieve the accumulated humiliations of my hopeless bar crawling misadventures of art idiocy etc... hahaha
give an old man a reason to smile before he dies...
come on guys...
be nice...
for a change... hahaha -
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Re: the fear factor...
Tue, May 13, 2008 - 3:42 AMSo there doesn't seem to be much holding you there. Why not move some where you can at least be novel again? -
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Tue, May 13, 2008 - 4:19 AMas with a lot of the world's detritus there is nothing holding me here except gravity and bad karma... hahaha -
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Re: the fear factor...
Tue, May 13, 2008 - 6:14 AMso is nobody else like totally paranoid and isolated etc...?
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Re: the fear factor...
Tue, May 13, 2008 - 6:17 AMI'm working on it... but not there just yet. -
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Tue, May 13, 2008 - 6:21 AMOr, at least, I'm working on becoming isolated, and I'm finding it really hard to shake people off; and other people keep recommending paranoia to me, but I find it difficult to get the hang of it.
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