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Rajneesh Tears of the Mystic Rose Osho Gold-copy came today

prayoga — Thu, 15 May 2008 16:11:54 GMT

And here it is, My book with HIS blessings... signed copy 88 Gold!
Osho’s image

Rajneesh Agrawal, 46, energetically raises his arms and quotes Gautam Buddha before lapsing into verse by Kahlil Gibran. Clad in maroon robes with a flowing beard and dark bulbous eyes, the resemblance to his master, the original Rajneesh/Osho is startling, and almost eerie. But then Rajneesh who dropped Agrawal from his name 30 years ago, has spent almost three decades devoted to his guru and has just written a book, Tears of the Mystic Rose, an autobiography that also talks about his experiences with Osho in the Pune commune.
“My father named me Rajnish, Bhagwan changed my name to Rajneesh,” he says, quietly proud of this connection to Osho. The son of a prominent industrialist, Shiv Agrawal, Rajneesh counts Lord Swraj Paul and the Paul family that runs the Apeejay Group among his first cousins. However, it’s his mother, the actress Vimmi who was serenaded by Sunil Dutt in Na sir jhuka ke jeeo, na munh chhupa ke jeeo, whom Rajneesh recalls fondly. “When my mother died, I left home and stayed with an aunt in Delhi where I started reading Bhagwan’s discourses,” he says. “I knew instinctively that’s where I belonged and I left for Pune immediately.” The year was 1981. Eventually, Rajneesh followed Osho to Oregon in the US and Manali, where he continued to live after Osho died, or as Rajneesh puts it, left his body. Now he divides his time between Pune and Delhi.

“I decided to write this book, because lots happened between Osho and me that no one knows about,” he claims mysteriously. A beautifully designed production, Tears of the Mystic Rose is far from typical; it has no punctuation or capital letters, and it opens vertically, like a scroll, deliberately, says Rajneesh, to open the readers’ “third eye”, and because all spiritual growth is vertical. In one chapter he talks of his divine experience of achieving Samadhi or enlightenment, and in another, he has drawn fantastic comparisons between Osho and himself. “My birthday is the day Osho left his body,” he explains and says it’s no coincidence that right after his Samadhi, Osho was released from prison. While he avoids spelling it out, it is clear Rajneesh believes he’s the reincarnation of Osho. The only dampener being that he’s banned from the Commune in Pune, nor has he managed to convince anyone of his deep connect with the Master.

In his Tears of the Mystic Rose, he has drawn on teachings by Mahavir and J Krishnamurti and emphasised the need for meditation for inner peace. “Once you experience the joy sanyas brings, everything else becomes irrelevant,” he says.

After being estranged from the Paul family, of late Rajnish is back in touch with them. They look at him with bemused tolerance, if not slight embarrassment. Rajneesh is unperturbed. “There’s more to life than money,” he says. His spiritual journey continues, and Rajneesh hopes to have an Ashram in Kerala soon. More than money, there’s fame to look out for.

Tears of the Mystic Rose is available at Osho World in Ansal Plaza for Rs 800

En hier is het, Mijn boek met His Blessings, getekend nr.88 Gold!

Osho’s image

Rajneesh Agrawal, 46, energetically raises his arms and quotes Gautam Buddha before lapsing into verse by Kahlil Gibran. Clad in maroon robes with a flowing beard and dark bulbous eyes, the resemblance to his master, the original Rajneesh/Osho is startling, and almost eerie. But then Rajneesh who dropped Agrawal from his name 30 years ago, has spent almost three decades devoted to his guru and has just written a book, Tears of the Mystic Rose, an autobiography that also talks about his experiences with Osho in the Pune commune.
“My father named me Rajnish, Bhagwan changed my name to Rajneesh,” he says, quietly proud of this connection to Osho. The son of a prominent industrialist, Shiv Agrawal, Rajneesh counts Lord Swraj Paul and the Paul family that runs the Apeejay Group among his first cousins. However, it’s his mother, the actress Vimmi who was serenaded by Sunil Dutt in Na sir jhuka ke jeeo, na munh chhupa ke jeeo, whom Rajneesh recalls fondly. “When my mother died, I left home and stayed with an aunt in Delhi where I started reading Bhagwan’s discourses,” he says. “I knew instinctively that’s where I belonged and I left for Pune immediately.” The year was 1981. Eventually, Rajneesh followed Osho to Oregon in the US and Manali, where he continued to live after Osho died, or as Rajneesh puts it, left his body. Now he divides his time between Pune and Delhi.

“I decided to write this book, because lots happened between Osho and me that no one knows about,” he claims mysteriously. A beautifully designed production, Tears of the Mystic Rose is far from typical; it has no punctuation or capital letters, and it opens vertically, like a scroll, deliberately, says Rajneesh, to open the readers’ “third eye”, and because all spiritual growth is vertical. In one chapter he talks of his divine experience of achieving Samadhi or enlightenment, and in another, he has drawn fantastic comparisons between Osho and himself. “My birthday is the day Osho left his body,” he explains and says it’s no coincidence that right after his Samadhi, Osho was released from prison. While he avoids spelling it out, it is clear Rajneesh believes he’s the reincarnation of Osho. The only dampener being that he’s banned from the Commune in Pune, nor has he managed to convince anyone of his deep connect with the Master.

In his Tears of the Mystic Rose, he has drawn on teachings by Mahavir and J Krishnamurti and emphasised the need for meditation for inner peace. “Once you experience the joy sanyas brings, everything else becomes irrelevant,” he says.

After being estranged from the Paul family, of late Rajnish is back in touch with them. They look at him with bemused tolerance, if not slight embarrassment. Rajneesh is unperturbed. “There’s more to life than money,” he says. His spiritual journey continues, and Rajneesh hopes to have an Ashram in Kerala soon. More than money, there’s fame to look out for.

Tears of the Mystic Rose is available at Osho World in Ansal Plaza for Rs 800

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Share your Sannyas Name and Meaning

prayoga — Sun, 22 Jan 2006 17:54:31 GMT

Those of us who became Sannyasins got a new name, for me it was a great gift. Here is my name and the message I got with it. I'm still proud of it.

Beloved Prayoga,

you new name will be

Swami Anand Prayoga
* bliss experiment *

Becoming a sannyasin meens
You will be moving
On the path of bliss
Not on the path of seriousness
Be cheerfull
Create a singing haert
A dancing body
And a cellebrating soul
And that will be
How you will fullfill
Your being as a sannyasin

Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh, Oregon, 31 august 1982

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L0veVibe Weekly Global Sunday Meditation

L0veVibe — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 10:11:21 GMT

Hello Mindful People,

Just letting you know that in response to an August 10, 2009 message from Ra and the Dimensional Weavers, channeled by Eileen Hetherington, we started a forum to align existing meditation groups and spiritual individuals to combine their focus at the same time every Sunday. London time is 2pm. Feel free to join and spread the word.

The message and other information is posted on lovevibe.blogspot.com
and twitter @L0veVibe

In Gratitude,
Koen

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Osho - Remember to be more Conscious and more Blissful

shiva — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 10:23:24 GMT

Osho - Remember to be more conscious; on the other hand, remember to be more blissful. These are the two wings, and if you can attain to these two wings god is not very far away; the whole sky is available. Then you can fly, you can take off. And they both go together very easily, because whenever you are alert, conscious, you are naturally more blissful.

Only in unalertness does one fall into misery. Misery goes together with unconsciousness; it cannot exist with consciousness. Just as darkness cannot exist with light, in the same way misery cannot exist with consciousness. Consciousness is like a lamp burning bright: it dispels misery and naturally makes it easy to become more blissful. And the other way round is also simple: if you are more blissful you will be more conscious, because when you are blissful that very state keeps you alert, alive. That very state gives you a sharpness of being.

Misery dulls you, deadens you. Misery collects like dust around your mirror and you start reflecting less and less. A moment comes when you are just a layer of dust and there is no reflection left. So these are the two wings to be grown. The bird of sannyas lives on these two wings: bliss/consciousness. That bird of sannyas is cal!ed truth. This is the indian trinity: bliss, truth, consciousness. Truth is just in the middle, bliss is on one side, consciousness is on the other side. If you become blissfully conscious or consciously blissful, you attain to truth. Truth is the synthesis of these two, the highest peak of these two. One has to start with these two.

http://oshoteachings.blogspot.com

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Mass Invitation for Kundalini Awakening through Shaktiapt/Mystic Initiation

madan_gautam — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 16:34:40 GMT

Namaste to All
I am here inviting All of you sincere seekers to join mass Kundalini Awakening session with me.
I am going to start it from 21 Jan to 26 Jan 2009 at 10.00 IST(Indian Standard Time) which is +5.30 GMT.
The session will be for one and half hrs daily and hope all of you sincere seekers will spare your time to sit at the same time according to your Country Time Jone and get the benefit of this mass Kundalini Awakening session through Shaktipat/Mystic Initiation in Siddha Maha Yoga.
Any question on this invited.
I am authorizing charlyne pich, who has received Shaktipat for Kundalini Awakening recently to guide and reply the questions of all seekers.
Pl.see my blog for more information.
OM

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Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

prayoga — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 21:41:33 GMT

Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

Past away tuesday. See my blog for pic.

Maharishi Mahesh Yogi was Guru of the Transcedental Meditation and lived in Vlodrop, the Netherlands. "All the rivers of the world gather in Vlodrop," he once said. The Flow and the Drop.

Namaste Maharishi.

Maybe chat a bit about him here?

I have never seen him in life allthough he lived nearby. As you know I was in the other camp, Osho's camp. Osho always made fun of him, but I think they where the same level. Maharishi has his special audience, highly intelectual people and they do very well... and Maharishi didn't get the mess Osho got with his followers... They where ONE ... I think they are on a beerbooze right now!!!

I was looking for some nice quotes these days of Maharishi but didn't find any. What he sais is right the same as Osho did, but Osho's words taste better for me. His teaching and website are a bit boring and highly intelectual as Osho was more fun and down to earth. Now comparing is not necesary (but I did) they taught the same: MEDITATE you dog!
And Maharishi seemt to giggle lovely with every question, I'm sorry I never seen him.

Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Quotes
"Having the Kingdom of Heaven within you, you have no right to suffer in life, you only have to enjoy the grace of God.”

"Bliss becomes blissful with practice. In our own bliss the desire, desirer and process of desiring are united—they are one. Desire is fulfilled at its source.” Maharishi, July 2005

"When a man has risen to cosmic consciousness, then his state is like that of an ever-full and steady ocean. This state of absolute bliss is the goal of all desires in life.”
Maharishi, from ‘Thirty Years Around the World.’

"Adopt the standard of perfection, because it is a perfect universe. ” – Maharishi, 1989.

"The experience of happiness is a direct means of replenishing life energy and revitalizing the mind.”
– Maharishi, The Science of Being and Art of Living, 1963.

"Identification of the human mind with the field which is infinitely unified in itself—that is the formula for world peace.”

"Attend to your own inner health and happiness. Happiness radiates like the fragrance of a flower and draws all good things towards you. Allow your love to nourish yourself as well as others.

"The only sensible defence strategy today is to be so powerful that one has the natural ability to spontaneously stop the birth of an enemy.
'Maharishi's Invincible Theory of Defence', published 1996

"Hard labour to succeed in the world? Hard labour no, no, human constitution, human physiology, human intelligence is made of infinite creative potential of Natural Law and therefore no-one has to work hard for success. "

If we are able to meet these two requirements - regularity in meditation and leading a good life in society, day-to-day a good life - then nothing would be unattainable by us
. from 'Thirty years Around the World'.

"With this (the Global Maharishi Effect) the 2000 year old gospel of suffering is soon coming to an end, and new civilisation, Vedic Civilisation of enlightenment and fulfilment, is dawning."

"Guru Purnima is the day of infinite correlation. It is the day of supreme knowledge; it is the day of Brahman; it is the day of Guru; Guru Purnima, the fullness of Guru Dev; the fullness of the element of Guru, the fullness of pure knowledge.

I think it's a bit boring, but he did great I think!

Namaste Maharishi.

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New Zorbas !!!

prayoga — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 23:40:04 GMT

Hello all new members,

Glad you found us!
Feel free to post as much happy and unhappy happenings in your life or in your communety.
Remember we are all Buddhas and Zorbas. So between booz and meditation evcerything is possible.

Welcome, welcome, welcome...

Partytime http://youtube.com/watch?v=vTc71FoStZ0

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For and Against Swami Rajneesh

prayoga — Fri, 09 May 2008 19:57:44 GMT

Introduction
There is a Indian teacher who also gives satsang and leads groups in Russia who IS a disciple of Osho's, and calls himself Swami Rajneesh ( Lover of Osho like we all are). Recently he published a book in India called "Tears of the Mystic Rose" which allegedly makes challenging reading. Sannyasnews hope to review when a copy becomes available in the West. The book seems to have upset the popes of the "Inner Circle" the people who run Osho's temporal affairs in Pune and elsewhere (?). They published the following letter about the book. Swami Rajneesh's reply is also included below.

link for downloading the book free is
http://www.oshorajneesh.net/osho_rajneesh_tears_of_the_mystic_rose.pdf

WORLDWIDE CIRCULAR SENT BY THE INNER CIRCLE

Pune, sent on January 15, 2008

Beloved Friends of the OSHO Centers and "Places to meditate", Some of you have reported that they got some promotional literature about " TEARS OF THE MYSTIC ROSE " from someone who calls himself " Swami Rajneesh " Just so you know this is just a local guruji play here in India. As Oshos says " In India there is one on every corner.... " This person is not granted entrance to the OSHO International Meditation Resort

Love, Vatayana. OSHO Global Connections

Swami Rajneesh replies to the Circular. 21 January 2008

To all my most beloved friends and fellow travellers as 19 January was my Beloved Master Osho's Mahaparinirvan day I choose to remain silent. : The inner circle message was sent on 15 January.

My book which is a mysterious love story between a master and a disciple was released on 19 January. This circle of dictators have not even read a single word of my book, Tears of the Mystic Rose. I challenge them to read it first and then send out an informed and intelligent message about me and the contents of the book

I have been a devotee and disciple of Osho for 26 years since 1981. After Osho left his body I remained silent and alone living in the Himalayas in Manali for 17 years without speaking or teaching or becoming a therapist or running any centre - simply alone and moving on my inner path silently. I have come back to Poona after 17 years existence and my love for Osho has made me come out into the world.

The Inner Circle letter: regarding : from someone who calls himself " Swami Rajneesh ". It who was Osho himself who changed my name from Swami Rajnish to Swami Rajneesh, just a few days before leaving his body Osho mysteriously pointed me out in the Buddha Hall in front of 5000 sannyasins, a secret and mystery which I have finally decided to reveal to the whole world. My story of love reveals all the mysteries I have mentioned in my website below. Read and challenge me, I am now available to all. Just so you know this is just a local guruji play here in India, As Osho says " In India there is one on every corner.... that I am playing guruji…even if I were to wrongly accept this label….ok !! Osho also says beware of dictators like Sheela and Hitlers and fascism.

What role is the inner circle playing ?? dictators ?? or facists ?? Osho dreamt of each and every street dancing with his sannyasins singing songs of love for their beloved master. Each of us are his dream and I am honored to dance on every street corner of India if I had to sing his song of love

That swami Rajneesh is banned from the ‘ resort ‘: ….great news… am I banned for one month or six months or 2 years or 10 years or 25 years or forever or one lifetime or the next two rebirths. Anyway I live with the best company of rebels - the outer circle of the banned misfits.

Remembrances of 19 January when Osho died is banned from the resort. Celebration of Osho birthday is banned from the resort. Celebration of Osho enlightment day is banned from the resort. Celebration of masters days is banned from the resort. Thousands of loving disciples are banned from the resort. 15 of the original of the inner circle themselves are banned from the resort. If they are the infallible popes of our enforcement resort then why are they all divided the original 21 are now 6.

Osho mala is banned from the resort. Osho pictures are banned from the resort. Osho songs of love are banned from the resort. The display of reverence and gratitude for our beloved master is banned from the resort bowing to the sacred Buddha hall is banned from the resort. The term samadhi is banned from the resort. The term ashram is banned from the resort. The term swami is banned from the resort. Namaste is banned from the resort. The buddha hall podium where our beloved master was brought for the last time for his last rites has been brutally destroyed and smashed where people today walk on this sacred holy podium with shoes and boots. The Samadhi marble memorial has been removed, his memorial photo loved all over the world has been replaced with a bronze head. Alcohol is flowing freely in the multiplaza where one pays thousands of dollars in therapies to grow towards consciousness, drunken sannyasins fall on the floor at Saturday nights plaza parties

Alcohol stinks 50 meters from the sacred Samadhi, 25 meters from Buddha hall, foul cigarette smell floats hundreds of meters around. This is the dream of our great master Osho being taken care of by the inner circle. They should be personally standing at the gate receiving each and every loving seeker of truth with a welcome and a song receiving each and every sannyasin with warmth and compassion. The higher the person in authority the greater is his responsibility to be conscious of his actions. The inner circle has been given the mandate to take care of mundane matters only. They do not possess even an iota of power to interfere into spiritual considerations

The barbaric destruction of the Buddha hall is not a mundane matter. The removal of the marble memorial is not a mundane matter.The aggressive snatching and banning of wearing of the mala is not a mundane matter. Removing his photos is not a mundane matter. Barring expressions of gratitude is not a mundane matter. Not allowing his song to be sung is not a mundane matter

A member of the inner circle Yogendra ( Darcey O' Brien ) dared to state in the New York Times: “someone comes in and there are, like, 1,000 pictures of this dead guy and they're like - Whoa, get me out of here “ Osho is that dead guy - enough of this bullshit

Now who are these 21 retarded monkeys. We are millions of sannyasins silent to the misuse of power and domination by the retarded. The food voucher states “just a meeting place for friends “ - is this a barrista coffee shop. This is a sacred space….not a place but a temple for fellow travelers seeking the truth. All rebels in our sannyasin world should ban the term resort. Osho only said make the ashram with resort like facilities. It is not an ashram, it is not a commune, it is not a resort, it is a Temple. Oshos Temple of Love. Each and every sannyasin has the right to protect and to question spiritual considerations. A huge fire and rebellious debate is needed to determine the actual powers vested in these retarded, ungrateful and loveless inner circle. They have the power to ban. They should learn real power - the power to love.

Yes, we Indians are stupid devotional types and gratefully remember and dedicate our lives to his flame of love: we are free to express our religiousness
our gratitude in any way we wish, we will protect our freedom of expression of religiousness.

Sannyasins are not sheep, that you create the fear of banning, this is the lowest form of blackmail. Osho says do not make a religion out of me where did he say expression of religiousness was barred.

So wake up, you have been given time with compassion. The inner circle beware of your actions grow up and act consciously, behave humanly, you are merely caretakers of mundane matters, not masters.

Swami Rajneesh

http://www.oshorajneesh.net
link for downloading the book free is
http://www.oshorajneesh.net/osho_rajneesh_tears_of_the_mystic_rose.pdf

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NON-SERIOUSNESS IS MY MESSAGE

chinmaya — Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:25:27 GMT

As Osho says: keep meditation non-serious. Laugh, dance and strum your guitar on the way to enlightenment....
"SMILES FROM OFF THE ROAD IN INDIA"
Walk away from any road in India for a day or so, and you will find people who are still untouched by Western values. people who seem to love life; who still have the humanity to welcome strangers; who still have time to smile.
Western society seems to be in a crisis of greed, crime, alcohol and drug abuse, obesity and depression.
Perhaps we have something to learn?
www.youtube.com/watch

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OSHO books free DOWNLOAD

shiva — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:03:32 GMT

Download Osho free english books in PDF format at

http://www.messagefrommasters.com/Ebooks/Osho_Books.htm

enjoy....

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MYSTIC ROSE NL 2008

prayoga — Sat, 24 May 2008 22:09:32 GMT

MYSTIC ROSE NL 2008
MYSTERY events

rajneesh in
HOLLAND
EUROPE
netherlands

25 juli - 6 augustus 2008
www.oshorajneesh.net/

dutch information
http://swamirajneesh.punt.nl/

OSHO sannyasins from 81 countries visit OSHO RAJNEESH
Tears of the Mystic Rose bringing sannyasins together again
OSHO RAJNEESH book free for all sannyasins

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OSHO Rajneesh Lovers in the Netherlands !!!

prayoga — Fri, 23 May 2008 14:29:04 GMT

OSHO Rajneesh Lovers in the Netherlands !!!
http://swamirajneesh.punt.nl/

OSHO Rajneesh Lovers in the Netherlands
Visit; http://swamirajneesh.punt.nl/
for the Dutch news about Rajneesh, The Slow Walking Man

and his European tour "Mystic Rose Gatherings"

july/august the Netherlands

Dutch updates: http://swamirajneesh.punt.nl/
Rajneesh site: www.oshorajneesh.net/
with FREE download of his book "Tears of the Mystic Rose"

Friends will meet Friends

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Fatwa from Vatayana ???

prayoga — Thu, 22 May 2008 21:15:49 GMT

VATAYANA LETTER TO RUSSIAN OSHO CENTERS AND EUROPEAN OSHO CENTERS

Dear Sannyasin,

Since I have sent you the letter below (www.oshorajneesh.net/events.htm) we haven't heard back from you.I am now back in the Meditation Resort, Pune and again heard that in your OSHO Center you will accommodate eventsrun by the person Rajneesh www.oshorajneesh.net/ in the next weeks.

I want to be very open and let you know that people have sent us a list of places where this person which calls himself "Rajneesh" is traveling too.One of the places is also Yekaterinburg.

As mentioned below,please understand that these kind of eventsare not part of the understanding how Osho wanted his centers to operate.

He say's" ...a center should be a taste of this place ( Meditation Resort ,Pune )"and this person is at this point not welcome in the OSHO International Meditation Resortand has not and will not be invited to facilitate events or meditations in the Meditation Resort.

As explained in the center training once already is, that it's may be possible, that as an individual one may feel different, but as an OSHO center representative there is a need to understand what you have signed in the Letter of Understanding that ...

Osho speaks for himself, with no intermediary. He says: "I have no successor".

That's why an OSHO center is just providing the space forthe OSHO Meditations and / or some workshops with some therapistwho also work in the OSHO Multiversity Puneas they have a good understanding how Osho wanted his therapies presented.

I also heard, that you Sannyasin have been in the Pune.It's really a pity that you didn't come to our office to talk about these things and totake part in the center training as this could have given you a wider view and understandingwhy such events aren't part of the guidelines for OSHO centers.

Just in short –whenever we offer such events where someone creates a certain kind of energy –this may be liked by many people as it's maybe more easy for people to "let someone else" tell what to do, or "giving" you energy,but long-term and eventually is the experience, also what we hear from other places,that it misleads and confuses people - as the idea starts happening that one can have this kind of energyonly in the presents of such a person and this may create a dependency.

OSHO centers should offer the meditations, therapies, meditative therapies, as Osho has given and encourage people that they can make it for themselves. Because, as I heard Osho say something like,.. that if someone can give it to you, they can also can take it away from you. It would be really great to hear fr om you as soon as possible.

Love Vatayana
OSHO Global Connections

Rajneesh www.oshorajneesh.net/ responds http://people.tribe.net/prayoga/blog/bf60f108-df49-4995-ae8a-095322f6e7f0

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Rajneesh Master of Silence BUDDHAM SHARANAM GACHCHHAMI

prayoga — Sat, 10 May 2008 15:17:55 GMT

Rajneesh Master of Silence BUDDHAM SHARANAM GACHCHHAMI

www.oshorajneesh.net

***

Buddham Sharanam Gachchhami

Sangham Sharanam Gachchhami

Dhamman Sharanam Gachchami

I Bow to the feet of the Master

I bow to the Sannyasins of the Master

I Bow to the Ultimate Truth of the Master

***

I surrender to the Master.
The Master is such a magnetic force that your surrender to the master becomes your protection; hence it is called the shelter. Then you are secure, then you are guarded, then you are protected. Then your hand is in those hands which know where to take you, what direction to give to you.

The second thing is the commune. Each buddha creates a commune, because without a commune a buddha cannot function. A commune means his energy field, a commune means the people who have become joined with him, a commune means an alternate society to the ordinary mundane society which goes after spurious comforts -- it is there available to everybody.

A small oasis in the desert of the world is what is meant by a commune created by a buddha -- a small oasis in which life is lived with a totally different gestalt, with a totally different vision, with a totally different goal; where life is lived with purpose, meaning, where life is lived with method -- even though to the outsiders it may look like madness, but that madness has a method in it -- where life is lived prayerfully, alert, aware, awake; where life is not just accidental, where life starts becoming more and more a growth in a certain direction, towards a certain destination; where life is no more like driftwood.

And the third is the dhamma. Dhamma means truth. Buddha represents the dhamma in two ways: one, through his communication, verbal, and second, through his presence, through his silence, through his communion: nonverbal.

The verbal communication is only an introduction for the nonverbal. The nonverbal is an energy communication. The verbal is only preparatory; it simply prepares you so you can allow the master to communicate with you energywise, because energywise it is really moving into the unknown.

Energywise it needs great trust, because you will be completely unaware where you are going -- aware that you are going somewhere, aware that you are being led somewhere, aware that something is happening of tremendous import; but what exactly it is you don't yet have the language for, you don't have any experience to recognize.

You will be moving into the uncharted.

The buddha represents dhamma, truth, in two ways. Verbally he communicates with the students; nonverbally, through silence, through energy, he communicates with the disciples.

And then there comes the ultimate unity where neither communication nor communion is needed, but oneness has been achieved -- where the master and the disciple become one, when the disciple is just a shadow, when there is no separation.

These are the three stages of growth: student, disciple, devotee, OSHO!

www.oshorajneesh.net

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Controversial banned book.....'TEARS of THE MYSTIC RoSE'

prayoga — Tue, 06 May 2008 13:36:16 GMT

Controversial banned book of Swami Rajneesh is igniting the osho sannyasins again to come together again and form a buddha field... this looks like a new phase in the osho sannyas world which always talks about buddhahood.

swami rajneesh talks about many mysteries in his much liked book 'TEARS of THE MYSTIC RoSE'....
like Black magic on osho, why osho left this body suddenly, how jiddu krishnamurti was involved in osho making this decision of leaving body suddenly, transmission of lamp done by osho, how osho went beyond enlightenment, what is the role of therapies in seeker's path and when therapies can act as a hindarance, where is buddha's body (maitreya) today... where is osho's real inner circle... why ashram(commune) was painted black....

many osho disciples have got enlightened but were not coming in open but now they may join together to make a buddhafield to help seeker on any path.

energy created by osho sannyasins to meditate is always open for seekers from any path.
infact buddhahood is our real nature.... osho or buddha or ramana or ramakrishna or nisargaddata or gurdjieff or jesus are just devices to take us towards meditation and realize our true nature.

link for downloading the book free is
http://www.oshorajneesh.net/osho_rajneesh_tears_of_the_mystic_rose.pdf

to know more about swami rajneesh website is www.oshorajneesh.net

with love
shiva

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Why i don't want to be Buddha?

Thu, 09 Feb 2006 07:52:42 GMT

I was reading the books of Osho and also various other stuff on internet.

Each individual is unique and so was Buddha. He could leave his wife and child and move in search of enlightenmet. Is it possible for me to get enlightment without leaving my house?

Looking for your comments....

-Dancing Mind

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Hello

Wed, 19 Mar 2008 03:59:45 GMT

I am Salamander and am happy just to be. This concept intrigues me. I've always thought of myself in this vein. Its a kind of crazy love for all beings. To me enlightenment is a continous process in which we are always and growing. I love to meditate before I go out to party.

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Gute Rutsch in 2008

prayoga — Sun, 30 Dec 2007 23:46:28 GMT

Gute Rutsch in 2008

It's all about GOLDFINGER
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=crn5ephc4UM

Boweevil
Your Prayoga

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Hula-hoop Stuntman?!?!?!?

Dizzy — Sun, 02 Dec 2007 19:03:28 GMT

Check out this crazy video- Jackie Chan or Napoleon Dynomite with hoops?

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ZEITGEIST

prayoga — Thu, 12 Jul 2007 18:01:59 GMT

ZEITGEIST
the movie : Official Release
www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

Thank you for your interest in Zeitgeist.
Zeitgeist was created as a not for profit expression to inspire people to start looking at the world
from a more critical perspective and to understand that very often things are not what the
population at large think they are. The information in Zeitgeist was established over a year long period
of research and the current Source page on this site lists the sources used / referenced.
Soon, an interactive transcript will be online with detailed footnotes and links.

It's important to point out that there is a tendency to simply disbelieve things that are
counter to our understanding, without the necessary research performed.
For example, some information contained in Part 1 and Part 3, specifically, is not obtained
by simple keyword searches on the Internet. You have to dig deeper. For instance,
very often people who look up "Horus" or "The Federal Reserve" on the Internet
draw their conclusions from very general or biased sources. Online encyclopedias or text book
Encyclopedias often do not contain the information contained in Zeitgeist. However, if one takes
the time to read the sources provided, they will find that what is being presented is
based on documented evidence. Any corrections, clarifications & further points regarding the film
are found on the Clarifications page.

That being said, it is my hope that people will not take what is said
in the film as the truth, but find out for themselves, for truth is not told, it is realized.

Thank you

www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

"They must find it difficult...
Those who have taken authority as the truth,
rather than truth as the authority."

- Gerald Massy -

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Spreading the Light

ahmo — Sat, 18 Aug 2007 03:06:22 GMT

invite all lovers of Osho to join in the growing network of Lightworkers around the globe. Here are some links. Full moon and eclipse Aug 28; plus adding to the energy matrix each new and full moon, and solstice and equinox.

It is truly a time to unite Osho's light and the flame of awareness he kindled in each of us to participate in raising the consciousness of Earth.

In Love and Light, Ma veet ahmo

http://lightworkers.org/node/4941/#THEMEDITATION

http://www.worldgathering.net/yourevent.html

www.firethegrid.org

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Pune

blissananda — Fri, 27 Apr 2007 18:31:14 GMT

i think il be finding myself in pune sometime very soon. any tips on cool stuff to do while im there?

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The Queen of Spades speaks

prayoga — Fri, 08 Jun 2007 12:20:44 GMT

The Queen of Spades speaks,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwBMW7KAZ_U&mode=related&search=

Isn't she beautiful in her love for Bhagwan? Look at those eyes!

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URL for CONCERT FOR INDIA'S ENVIRONMENT film

chinmaya — Sat, 19 May 2007 00:27:20 GMT

Friends,
Sorry, I didn't give you a full url for the film!
You can view it on
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=chinmayadunster

Enjoy!
LOVE
Chinmaya

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CONCERT FOR INDIA'S ENVIRONMENT FILM

chinmaya — Thu, 17 May 2007 22:25:53 GMT

Friends,
I'd like to share the film I have just finished.
It blends footage from a series of multimedia concerts recorded live at the Bharati Vidyapeeth Institute of Environmental Education and Awareness (BVIEER), Pune, India in 2004 with:
*Poems on nature, composed and read by Indian schoolchildren
*Interviews with environmentalists and educators
*Stunning footage of scenery, wildlife and peoples from all over India.
It aims to evoke feelings of reverence for the wonders of India’s nature, and respect for the peoples who have lived alongside them and preserved so much of them over countless generations.
It is inspired by Osho's words from 'The Path of the Mystic' #34
"The new humanity will have an ecology in which nature is not to be conquered but lived and loved. We are part of it - how can we conquer it?"
You can view the film on

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=chinmayadunster

Enjoy!
LOVE
Chinmaya

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UG Krishnamurti Full Moon Celebration

prayoga — Sat, 31 Mar 2007 23:11:53 GMT

UG died march 22 2007

Lets CELEBRATE!!!!!!!!!

http://people.tribe.net/prayoga/blog/e6365c1d-9235-41ce-8e3c-26d7adb14f9a

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OSHO THE KEY FOR SECRETS OF TRUTH

Anand.......... — Tue, 20 Mar 2007 09:30:30 GMT

oshoooooooooooooooooooooooooo

OSHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

OSHOOOOOOOOOOOO............;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;

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Hmmmm

Swm.Veet — Sat, 30 Dec 2006 02:12:00 GMT

Hi beloveds..iam swm.veetvedam living now in malaysia born in India landing in this tribe for my un ending quest. I bow to u all.

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"BuddhaHill - NOW HERE - a play beyond the known, the spirit of the New Man"

ChaMeera — Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:24:43 GMT

This movie is for free download on http://www.buddhahill.de
A documentary on a spiritual experiment in a style that has never happened before. A 108 minutes impression of the inner work-play happening at BuddaHill.
Spirituality needs to go with the time. This movie is a modern, contemporary expression of the timeless spirit.

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Wonder

DavidRShapiro — Sun, 04 Feb 2007 07:05:48 GMT

Do you ever wonder about wonder?
Do you ever wonder,
until you come to some conclusion,
and then you wonder some more,
and find it to be a delusion?
And then continue to wonder
about wonder it self?

I wonder?

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Rajneesh English Books Complete Collection on CD-ROM

evrk — Sun, 07 Jan 2007 14:13:39 GMT

Die to the past. Live in the moment.
Mind is a bundle of thoughts. Mind goes into the past as memories. Or it goes into future as imaginations. Go beyond mind.
Accept yourself unconditionally.

Love him or leave him. There is no go between. Look into his eyes and you are blown away. Listen to his words and your mind is no more. There is infected freedom from all conditionings of mind and society.
The sparks of insights from Rajneesh made people mesmerised and drew many thousands to him. The best of humanity sat at his feet to listen to his wors of wisdom.

Rajneesh's books are source of solace and insight to most people with all hues and colors. His books collection in its entirety will form a library of its own.

Many of us have good number of Osho's books collected over the years. Carrying these books on tours, travels and transfers is often cumbersome. It is also difficult to remember in which book and page those inspiring and transforming passages and words were read and underlined. Even bookmarks are often difficult to locate in print editions.

Also the collection can be never complete due to out of print or out of stock situations.

How about having a CD-ROM containing entire library of Bhagwan's book collection. Which we can carry with us on our travels and tours. Also it is easy to locate any word, topic with the full text search function with a click of the mouse.

CD-ROM of complete works, books, writingsof Osho---ever published and unpublished can be your lifelong source of solace, guidance and reference on what Osho ever spoke on consciouseness and on day to day mundane issues like sex, intimacy, relationships, courtship, family, wife and husband, girlfriends, art of living, life, love and laughter, and so many other things answering to all types of questions put to him by the people who came to listen to him.

http://www.rajneeshbooks.com/

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WELCOME ALL!!!!

prayoga — Sun, 22 Jan 2006 17:45:45 GMT

Dear friends and sinners, LOL. It is a pleasure to greet you for the first night in our Zorba the BUDDHA gossip disco!!! Have FUNN with eatchother, post and ask questions and stories you remember. True or half true, we will figure it out as long it's YOUR truth it's OK.
Hope you all agree with the house-rules...LOL and I'm allways open for comments and recomandations.

LET THE DISCO BEGIN!!!!!

LOVE and FUNN
Pray

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CRUISE THE MED...DOCUMENTARY FILM MAKING

panache — Fri, 17 Nov 2006 01:21:51 GMT

Beginning in March next year, we are inviting 9 people to cruise from Bodrum, Turkey along the Turkish coast, Cyprus, Athens, Alexandria on a share expenses basis (very, very inexpensive). We began a documentary in Paris and Turkey last year, and now as it gets warmer in Turkey we are going to complete it. We have a US distributor, and everyone involved will share in profits. It could be quite profitable for you and a real life changer. We are in pre-production of three others...one on black jazz in Paris after WWII until now. We have a Turkish captain/crew/cook on our 70' Gulet, 6 double staterooms still available, all with their own head (toilet and shower). Qualifications? Simply to be able to get along with people. Age? Our producer is 60, our editor is 25. Age inmaterial if you are young in spirit. If you have video experience (HD MiniDV PAL and Final Cut Pro, writing) all the better, but we are doing this to perhaps expand the focus of our documentary which is based on the mystical aspects of Alexander the Great - Title: Force of Evidence. Creative people get free reign as long as they don't sink the ship or the project. We are interested to add some human interest...profound, provocative, funny...to the program, so film making experience in not a requirement. Come for a week or two months. Email me for details.

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Any Sanyasins in the Dallas/Ft Worth area??????

peter — Wed, 15 Nov 2006 09:31:59 GMT

Hi, I am new to the DFW area and would like to know if there are any deciples of Osho in this area. And if there are, Where do we gather?

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Knok-knock... uh, hello . . .

kalicleo — Tue, 14 Nov 2006 01:48:32 GMT

Hi, very, *very* green newcomer here, but this looks interesting and fun. I have a couple favorite "enlightened masters," but I must admit close to total ignorance of those mentioned here. So, I'm out of my comfort zone a bit, and it will feel good to stretch. Somewhere in here, Prayoga said, "Be yourself, thats all there is," and that's really all I needed to hear.

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fikm ad /dvd

panache — Sat, 07 Oct 2006 00:48:58 GMT

Hi. I'm new to the Tribe...onetime follower of Osho, and, more recently in Australia, of Nityama and Sacred Sexual Chuluaqui and Quodoushka. I'm a film-maker with a distribution network. Anyone interested in forming a non-explicit film co-op in Oz?
Panache
panacheparis@yahoo.fr

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New Tribe Welcome

prayoga — Sat, 23 Sep 2006 13:07:39 GMT

Are going to rock new tribe???? OK lets ROCK!!!

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Namaste~ An Invitation

Dee — Sun, 06 Aug 2006 03:32:16 GMT

Greetings, Espavo, and Namaste dear ones!

There is a new community which has been birthed on the wings of the Lions Gate 8:8:8 energies.

We are a One World - Global Unity community. It is open to people of all faiths, all over this earth!

We have a specific area for Buddhism, and are experiencing a significant lack of Buddhist members, so we are hoping that some of you will join us, in order to help people understand what you understand! We want to break down the borders we build between each other, to identify the Oneness within us all.

We hope to see you there!

http://globalunity.proboards100.com

Much Light & Love, And abundant Peace,
Dee

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•U.G. Krishnamurti video's "There is nothing happening..."

prayoga — Sat, 06 May 2006 05:18:50 GMT

•U.G. Krishnamurti video's "There is nothing happening..."

www.ugkrishnamurti.org/ug/ug_...ex.html

Check them out. What 3d shift, what 5th dimension. What ascension? Krishnamurti is speaking from my heart again in this video's. There is no change going on, there is only our willingness for change. Why change? Why learn? Why effort to grow? Have you ever seen a willow going to a seminar for his growing? No, either it grows or not. Both is fine. Well here is dissident Prayoga again... see some video's

Until today I never whatched video's from Krishnamurti but today he really caught my eye. Well just have a look. He is lovely as OSHO as ...

www.ugkrishnamurti.org/ug/ug_...ex.html

LOVE and ascend
Pray...

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The goose is out, 3 march 1981

prayoga — Mon, 26 Jun 2006 16:49:31 GMT

(just am translating into dutch.. would love to share...LOL) Exactly the good reading for me.
The second question

Question 2
OSHO, I AM A HOMOSEXUAL CATHOLIC AND BADLY SUFFER FROM STUTTERING. CAN YOU HELP ME OUT OF MY MESS?

Gyaneshwar, the first thing you should get out of is your Catholicism; that is the real mess. Homosexuality is not such a big problem, it is not a problem at all, in fact. It is part of human freedom. There is nothing wrong if two persons choose a certain style of sexual relationship; it should be nobody's business. But the priests and the politicians are poking their noses into everything! They create guilt in you -- absolutely unnecessary.
If two men are in love, what is wrong in iR What harm are they doing to anybody? In fact, they look happier than the heterosexuals; that's why they are called "gay." This is strange: I never see lesbians looking gay -- they look sad, they look very serious -- but homosexuals always look very gay, very sweet, really honey.
I have been wondering what is the matter, why are lesbians not so happy? Maybe they cannot enjoy nagging, which has been an eternal joy for the woman. In fact, without their nagging I don't think anybody would ever have become religious. All your saints are the by-product of nagging. All your saints should be immensely grateful to women: they have driven them to be spiritual! They did not leave any possibility for them IN the world; they had to escape to the monasteries. They say they are going in search of God; in fact, they are simply going away from the wife. They were cowards.
Lesbians don't look very happy. Something is missing, and that something seems to be they cannot torture each other. They understand each other perfectly well, and because they understand each other very well there is no mystery left.
Man lives in the head, the woman lives in the heart. The heart can rejoice only when there is something very mysterious, something like a koan: the goose in the bottle. Neither the bottle has to be broken nor the goose has to be killed, and it has to be taken out too. The heart enjoys the mysterious; the head is not interested in the mysterious, it is interested in the puzzling, in the riddling. Any riddle, any puzzle, and the head is interested. The approach of the head is logical.
To a man the woman is mysterious; to connect with the woman he has to come to his heart, and he lives in the head. Hence the woman always remains a trouble. He cannot understand her, he cannot explain what is happening, he cannot explain it away either. He has to live with a mystery, and that is a constant pain in his neck; it is beyond his grasp.
But with a man things are simple: both are logical. They understand the language, they understand logic, they understand mathematics, calculation. At the most the man is just a new question to be solved -- not a mystery to be lived but a question to be solved; a problem which can be solved, which is not impossible to solve. That keeps them interested, that keeps them intrigued. Hence I see homosexuals looking gay. Lesbians look very sad.
And one more thing happens: homosexuals become more feminine and they start having a certain beauty, a certain "niceness" about them, a certain roundness, a grace. The lesbian becomes manly, she starts losing her feminine grace; she becomes masculine, aggressive, hard. Hence, Gyaneshwar, if you were a woman it would have been a problem and I would have helped you to come out of it. But you are a man. Why bother? Why make much out of a simple thing? If you are enjoying a relationship with a man, enjoy it!
The Christian God himself seems to be homosexual -- the whole trinity consists of three men. How they are managing it nobody knows -- not a single woman! Only the Holy Ghost is a little suspect -- maybe the Holy Ghost is bisexual? Ghosts can do any kind of thing! Otherwise the Father and the Son and the Holy Ghost -- what kind of trinity is this? It is very homosexual! They have not allowed a single woman to be in it, just to keep out of trouble. One woman would have destroyed the whole trinity; it would have become a real triangle!
So homosexuality is not a problem. We should start looking at real problems and should not be concerned about unreal problems. There are real problems to be solved. And this is a trick of the human mind: to create unreal problems so that you become occupied with them while real problems go on growing. And this is an old strategy: politicians, priests, so-called religious leaders go on giving you pseudo problems to solve so that you become occupied with the pseudo.
The problem in itself is meaningless, the problem is not a problem at all, but how much fuss has gone on down the ages about homosexuality! There are countries where people are still killed for homosexual acts, murdered, sentenced to jail for their whole lives. Strange world! This is a twentieth-century world? Homosexuality is not a problem at all; there are thousands of real problems to be solved. But man has to be kept engaged with toys.
My effort is to withdraw all your attention from toys so that you can focus on the real problems of life; and if you focus on the real problems of life they can be solved. Now, I don't see how homosexuality becomes a problem. How does it become a problem? Why should it be of concern to anybody? A love affair is two individuals' private concern; it is THEIR intimacy, it is not a social phenomenon.
And, in fact, it will help the world population if more people turned homosexual. It will be good, very good for the world: less people will be born, the earth will be less burdened, there will be less poverty. Of course, less orphans and less Mother Teresas! There will be less need for contraceptives, birth control methods, sterilization, and of course the whole business of the Polack Pope will go out of his hands. That is his whole business! For one year continuously he has been talking against contraceptives, against birth control, sterilization, abortion. Homosexuality can solve all these problems simply!
So I don't see there is much of a problem in it. The only problem is your Catholicism.

Rodney, the eldest son of a respectable Boston family, announced to his shocked father that he intended to live with his swishy boyfriend on Beacon Hill.
"Damn it, Rodney," the parent responded, "our family came over with John Winthrop, and we've never had a scandal such as this."
"I can't help it, father, I love him."
"But for God's sake, son, he's Catholic!"

That is the true problem! Come out of your Catholicism. And when I say come out of your Catholicism, I mean come out of all kinds of stupid ideologies and start living life as if you are Adam and Eve -- the first man on the earth, the first woman on the earth. Start afresh, from scratch.
And as far as your stuttering is concerned, what is wrong in it? It may just be because you have made such a problem out of homosexuality that you are stuttering. Stuttering -- I have watched it in many people -- comes in a state of stress, tension.
When I was a student in the university, my neighbor... a young man, beautiful man, healthy, in every way intelligent, and I had never seen him stuttering. Once his father visited him and he immediately started stuttering -- before the father. I could not believe what was happening. The moment the father left he was perfectly okay. I asked him.
He said, "This is a problem. When I go back home, I cannot avoid stuttering before my father and mother. It happens... the more I try to avoid it the more it happens. Even when my father's letter comes and I start reading it, I suddenly feel a trembling. I cannot read my father's letter without stuttering. Otherwise I am perfectly okay."
So I said to him, "So it is not a question of stuttering; there is some stress, some tension. The father is heavy on you and he regresses you back towards your childhood, back to your old fears, and those fears start overcoming your intelligence."
I said to him, "Do one thing: next time your father comes, try to stutter with every word!"
He said, "How is that going to help?"
I said, "You try. Don't try not to stutter, on the contrary try to stutter. Make every effort that not a single word should come out without stuttering!"
He said, "What are you suggesting? I have been doing just the opposite and have failed utterly, and your method seems to be such that it is bound to create more troubles for me!"
I said, "Give it a try."
And the father came, and I was there, and he tried it -- and he could not stutter!
There are a few things which happen only if you try; there are a few things which happen only if you DON'T try, because the very effort comes out of fear and if fear is the cause then the effort cannot help.
Hypnotherapists call it "the law of the reverse effect."
If you are learning to ride a bicycle you may be on a sixty-foot-wide road, absolutely empty, nobody on the road, and then you see a milestone by the side of the road, and suddenly your cycle starts moving towards that milestone for no reason at all. You start feeling afraid, you try to avoid the milestone. Now, on a sixty-foot-wide road even a blind man has only a rare chance of hitting the milestone, but you will try hard, and the more you try the more you will become focused. Now the whole road disappears, there is only that milestone just standing there like Hanumanji, the monkey god, giggling at you, making faces at you, attracting you like a magnetic force. And you are doing every act that you can do to avoid it, but you are going... you know you are going. It is unavoidable! The more unavoidable you feel it is, the more energy you put into it. You become tense. The whole world has shrunken to Hanumanji... and the crash!
This is one of the fundamental laws of life. Homosexuality may be the cause, but it is not homosexuality really but your attitude to it, your approach to it. You are making a problem out of it; then there will be trouble.
My suggestion, Gyaneshwar, is: stutter beautifully -- make stuttering songs! You will enjoy, others will enjoy, and that's what we are here for.

"Have faith and ye shall be healed!" intoned the evangelist at the revival meeting. A woman on crutches and a man came forward. The evangelist asked, "What is your name, my good woman?"
"I'm Mrs. Smith," she answered, "and I haven't been able to walk without crutches for twenty years."
"Well, Mrs. Smith," he said, "go behind that screen and pray."
Turning to the man, he asked, "What is your name?"
"My name ith Thamuelth," he answered, "and I have alwayth thpoken with a lithp."
"All right, Mr. Samuels," the evangelist said, "go behind that screen with Mrs. Smith and pray."
After several minutes had passed, the revivalist announced, "I think the time has come. Witness these miracles. Mrs. Smith, throw your left crutch over the screen." The audience gasped as it sailed over. "Mrs. Smith, throw your right crutch over the screen." The crowd cheered as the second crutch appeared.
Encouraged, the evangelist commanded, "Mr. Samuels, say something in a loud, clear voice, so we can all hear you."
Samuels answered, "Mithuth Sthmith jutht fell on her ath!"

So what is wrong in it? It is a far greater miracle! So don't be worried about unnecessary things. Stutter joyously, enjoy it, and there is a possibility that you may stop stuttering -- beware of it! If you don't want to stop it then don't listen to me, you just go on trying not to stutter.
My suggestion is stutter, and don't be a miser. Fill the whole place with stuttering! Whomsoever you meet, stutter -- don't miss an opportunity. Even the words that you can speak well don't speak well, stutter! And you may be surprised that once you relax, once you start enjoying, once the tension is dropped, stuttering may disappear. If it disappears, good; if it does not disappear there is no harm in it. It is innocent!
Take life as easily as possible. But people don't understand me. I say to them, "Life is a mystery. It is not to be solved but to be lived." And somebody has asked me, "Osho, when you said that, I heard, "Life is a MISERY, not to be solved but to be lived." That is up to you. To me it is a mystery, not to be solved but to be lived, but you can hear it as "misery."
Don't make unnecessary problems for yourself, so that your whole energy can become focused on the essential problem. And the essential problem is only one: Know thyself.

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Enlightenment Intensive

prayoga — Wed, 21 Jun 2006 20:32:23 GMT

*Enlightenment Intensive*

Tell me who you are...

I once,
20 years ago,
did a lovely Bhagwan training:
"Enlightment Intensive"

5 day"s of asking your partner:
"Tell me who you are..???

Now take a nice face pic,
cut it in half,
mirror and paste.

NOW TELL ME WHO I AM:...

The Egyptian Princess,
or
The Hangman
???

say it!!!
look: "Enlightment Intensive": http://people.tribe.net/prayoga/blog/35ccd08a-e68c-4b7e-8f04-3212427a5b00

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Welcome to all new comers and to all old cucomers

prayoga — Tue, 13 Jun 2006 19:46:45 GMT

Hello al!! Welcome and share your insights or new or old findings on the internet with your fiends in "ZORBA THE BUDDHA"

Pleas share in old postings or stat new. Lets keep the tribe alive, I wot reanimate you...LOL

LOVE and SUNSHINE

Prayo..

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Meet and Greet!

prayoga — Sun, 11 Jun 2006 14:02:12 GMT

"Meet and Greet" Hertenkamp Klaus.
people.tribe.net/prayoga/b...b1150353e1

Klaus Hertenkamp, VPRO 1999-2000
"Meet and Greet": Klaus van Hertenkamp" Dutch Gay Camp Cult Celeberaty
mailto: gaytarot@gmail.com
Web: http://prayoga.punt.nl/#289769

Dutch TV VPRO soap-camp-cult-drama-series "Hertenkamp"

Meet and Greet: Gay character Klaus for your party, presentation or just an easy TAROT evening. Klaus will tell your friends and family Past, Present and Future with his famouse TAROT-deck.

Meet and Greet:
Dutch Gay Celeberaty Klaus
-from VPRO's "Hertenkamp"
mailto: gaytarot@gmail.com
Web: http://prayoga.punt.nl/#289769
Credits: http://imdb.com/name/nm1179614/

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Who disagrees with the Master???

prayoga — Thu, 30 Mar 2006 21:53:26 GMT

rené aksed in OSHO-tribe
Disagree with Osho
Osho is awesome, perfect and also imperfect; i would like to hear about the times when members of this tribe disagree with Osho. Granted it may be very rare occurrence but if you think for yourself, as Osho would want you to do, it must happen once in a while...
for instance i think his crediting christian monastic life for the emergence of homosexuality lacks biological validity. since homosexuality is observable in other animals, it did not start with human cultural institutions.
have you found something in his speeches or writtings you disagree with? why?
***
Great topic Rene...
Let me quote you first:
>> his crediting christian monastic life for the emergence of homosexuality lacks biological validity. since homosexuality is observable in other animals, it did not start with human cultural institutions.<<
I as homosexual sannyasin in the old days have never felt offended by Osho’s words. My biggest support was a Darshan Dairy back from the 70s where a Dutch homosexual sannyasin got his name and Mala and asked the question.
>>Bhagwan replayed it was totally OK, you have to be Yourself. “When I speak out against homosexuality, don't listen, that words are NOT for you! It's only to make a point.” <<
from the book: "The Zero Experience"
Homosexuality with animals has nothing to do with human sexuality. In fact human sexuality can not be explained by observing animals because awareness is involved.
Later on when Bhagwan went real high against homosexuality and AIDS he still was totaly right, how hurtfull it was for me to hear and I left the sannyas-tribe, but am still with the Master. His words where MORE THEN TO THE POINT. I was at the meeting with Sheela in Amsterdam where the condom and handgloves rules where explained and I can say Bhagwan was the first (and the last) who gave a final sollution for the AIDS problem. That he used my homosexuality to scare all off was only good. He made his point more then clear in 1 minute.
I can still hear the laughter of the gay-scene in Amsterdam 1982 when I proposed condoms in gay-sex. Most of them are dead now.
The MAIN point is in my opinion is, never quote Bhagwan, Osho!!! I dont know about the past Oregon times but in my time he made always clear: "All what I will say, I will deny afterward." So that the result of his teachings was a Total Nothing.
That’s what I learned: The Zero Experience.
The translations in the deeds of the followers are quite another thing. But I could always taste if the coffee was made by Bhagwan or by kitchen-staff. And having seen Sheela again after all these years I think the Master was Great!!! We are only puppets trying to cut the strings...LOL

LOVE
Prayoga

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Do you know the meaning of the name Zorba?

ZorbaZiv — Wed, 24 May 2006 00:54:03 GMT

Zorba is a Greek name meaning ‘Live Each Day’

The word Buddha comes from Sanskritt and means 'one who is fully enlightened'.

So Zorba the Buddha means Live Each Day Fully Enlightened’

And if you wonder about my name…

Ziv is a Hebrew word meaning Shining Brightly

My mantra is to Live Each Day Shining Brightly.

www.ZorbaZiv.com

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Bhagwan the REAL Zorba the Buddha!!!!

prayoga — Mon, 30 Jan 2006 18:32:07 GMT

Totaly new for me, not undoing anything to His teachings this reveals something for me...
read the whole story at: http://home.att.net/~meditation/Osho.html

This is only a copy and paste part....

Rajneesh used prescription drugs, mainly Valium (diazepam), as an analgesic for his aches and pains and to counter the symptoms of dysautonomia (dysfunction of the autonomic nervous system). He took the maximum recommended dose of 60 milligrams per day. Rajneesh also inhaled nitrous oxide (N2O) mixed with pure oxygen (see Osho in the Dental Chair), which he claimed increased his creativity (see dangers of N2O). The nitrous oxide probably did relieve the sensation of severe exhaustion and suffocation patients with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome often feel, but it did nothing for the quality of his judgment. Naive about the powerful effects of drugs and overconfident about his own ability to fight off their negative effects, Rajneesh succumbed to addiction.

A number of disciples have claimed that Rajneesh was so intoxicated at his Oregon ranch in the 1980s that he sometimes urinated in the halls of his own home, just as heroin addicts and common drunks often do. I believe this to be true as the last time I saw Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh he was inebriated to the point of becoming physically ugly. He had the same washed-out look and foolish behavior I had witnessed in addicts while working at a methadone clinic in the United States. Rajneesh had miraculous mental powers, but he was an ordinary human being physically and could not tolerate the devastating effects of large doses of tranquilizers.

On top of Rajneesh's physical illness, his massive intake of Valium caused paranoia and greatly reduced reasoning power. Valium addicts often think the CIA or other unseen villains are plotting against them, so it is not surprising that he imagined he was poisoned by the United States Government. His reasoning power became so damaged that Rajneesh actually considered moving to Russia to combine his totalitarian form of spirituality with Russian communism, an idea no sane man could possibly entertain. Historically, Valium has been the drug of choice for CFS sufferers as it masks the unnerving symptoms of dysautonomia and helps bring sleep. Rajneesh suffered from insomnia, yet another classic symptom of CFS.

Rajneesh was a physically ill man who became mentally corrupt. His brief experimentation with LSD only made matters worse. Rajneesh's drug use and addiction was a problem of his own making, not a government conspiracy. Rajneesh died in 1990 with heart failure listed as the official cause of death. It is probable that the physical decline Rajneesh experienced during his incarceration in American jails was due to a combination of withdrawal symptoms from Valium and an aggravation of his ME/CFS due to stress and exposure to allergens.

After Rajneesh's humiliation and downfall in America, he declared that he was "Jesus crucified by Ronald Reagan's America." In truth, Rajneesh was a drug addicted guru who self-destructed through his own wrong actions. Comparing himself to Jesus was doubly dishonest as he himself had no respect for Jesus. He once undiplomatically proclaimed to the American media that everything Jesus said was "just crazy."

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Three Lifetimes TAROT

prayoga — Fri, 19 May 2006 03:09:25 GMT

Two third of mankind believes in reincarnation as a possibility. In Hinduism and Buddhism reincarnation is an essential part of their religion. Bad tongues tell that reincarnation was whipped out of the Christian belief in medieval church reformations. Christianity also believes in an afterlife in heaven. Jesus is even supposed to come back from heaven. And he was just man among men. So we can say that reincarnation at least is a working concept. At least for a big deal of humanity it is.

And then came the modern quantum physics with theories that time doesn’t exist. Time is only a concept, just as reincarnation is a concept to understand the world around us. So what happens if time doesn’t exist and al is a “Big Great Now”. I think this evolution of thinking makes memories of past life existence more available for al of us then it was 100 years ago. So if we are living in the “Big Great Now” we can also “remember next lives. You stretch your mind to next existences on this planet.

Already in 1989 I designed inspired by the Haindl TAROT my Three Lifetimes TAROT. The Reading describes three of your incarnations. One past incarnation, the incarnation you call your life now and a next possible life. It can broader your vision on your present life by seeing connections with past and future incarnations. You see a past life leading to your present life floating in a next incarnation.

The Three Lifetimes TAROT can help you realize what happens when your present life floats in a future existence. You can study juvenile life in a past life connected with your present youth, seeing how you will do next time. You see a developing of three young people, all you at the same time. You can see the three presents, your age in a past life, now and your age in a next life. And you can see how three existences lead to an end. Your present 21 century old age, how it was in a past life and in a next.

Besides the“Big Great Now” I use the concept of “Free Will” in my Readings. The Three Lifetimes TAROT can help you gain insight where a development goes in a not whished direction. “Free Will” is a main principle in modern TAROT and Astrology. This makes The Three Lifetimes TAROT a tool to make better choices in life. You can even concentrate The Three Lifetimes TAROT in your present 21th century existence.

Three cards what represent your past life can also represent your present youth. Cumulated in the card of this life’s past. Then we have the central NOW card, the essence of The Three Lifetimes TAROT; can be broadened with past and future “present”. The one card for your present future is the shortcut for the three cards to come. Now you have a multitude of opportunities to change your life. Moments to regain control over your life.

The Three Lifetimes TAROT can be used for a diagnostic tool to check chakra’s when you suffer energy problems or illnesses. You have a view where health is found, what there is to retrieve and what unfavourable factors there are to avoid with your Free Will. The Three Lifetimes TAROT is a source of information and possibilities on physical, spiritual and social level. It gives you insight in life and offers possibilities and choices. The Three Lifetimes TAROT can liberate you from stuck patterns.

The Three Lifetimes TAROT, tool for insight and choices. The Future is in your Hands.

Mail me for details gaytarot@gmail.com

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Avalon calling join in celebration

chilambalam2013 — Fri, 10 Mar 2006 13:16:48 GMT

A New Generation of FamilyGathering is on its way. From June 16th - 21st 2006, Sunrise Summer Solstice Celebration will unfold on a 1000 acre estate in South Somerset. Complete with many familiar Green Field faces and a range of innovative and unique offerings, Sunrise promises 5 beautiful midsummer days of contemporary music and performing arts, permaculture and sustainable living. The festival blends healing arts and electronica, ancient vibrations and new-time culture, visionary art with green crafts - an alchemical synthesis of science, art, spirituality and culture.

We are seeking to pioneer a new concept in Festival design offering the highest quality of production and excellent value, combined with strong ecological and ethical standards. 13 autonomous areas complete with 6+ stages provide a wide range of great activities, entertainment, education, information and celebration.

Through these, we aim to facilitate personal and planetary transformation, inspiring creativity, imagination and the re-discovery of our sense of community and family.

Please feel free to browse through the sections of this site and examine the exciting aspects of this unique event. As the site has just gone live, some sections are still incomplete, but they'll be updated consistently over the coming days. More sections will also be added in time.

The Sunrise Celebration Team

Find out more about the 13 arenas and just where it's all exactly going to happen - WHAT'S ON www.sunrisecelebration.com

Whether you are a trader, performer, healer, artist or want flyers to give to your friends and family, we are interested in knowing what you could bring to Sunrise 2006.

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Isn't He Lovely..., Isn't She Wonderful...???

prayoga — Wed, 22 Mar 2006 01:11:33 GMT

Ohhh Fuck isn't He Beautiful???
Tue, March 21, 2006 - 4:59 PM
http://people.tribe.net/prayoga/blog&topicId=3ebe31cd-7cab-4aa7-8374-0a1ef5d40222

Who needs a Donkey, Jesus?...
Follow the Skoda driver?...

No we where much more clever and our Master had a 20 century Style.

And what does an old Rolls cost anyway?
And so what if we want 20...
We only got more discount...:-)))

Read more: http://prayoga.punt.nl/?home=1#278549

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Shakespeare Sonnet-a-Day - March 16, 2006

prayoga — Fri, 17 Mar 2006 00:56:02 GMT

Sonnet #1
I.

***

FROM fairest creatures we desire increase,

That thereby beauty's rose might never die,

But as the riper should by time decease,

His tender heir might bear his memory:

***

But thou, contracted to thine own bright eyes,

Feed'st thy light'st flame with self-substantial fuel,

Making a famine where abundance lies,

Thyself thy foe, to thy sweet self too cruel.

***

Thou that art now the world's fresh ornament

And only herald to the gaudy spring,

Within thine own bud buriest thy content

***

And, tender churl, makest waste in niggarding.

Pity the world, or else this glutton be,

To eat the world's due, by the grave and thee.

***

http://prayoga.punt.nl/
Free TAROT Reading

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See Him, Feel Him, Click Him, and Leave a comment…

prayoga — Thu, 16 Mar 2006 18:00:47 GMT

See Him, Feel Him, Click Him, and Leave a comment…
0shhh0 at his best Osho, Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh, Our Love, Your Love, My Love, Viveks Love!

Will be updating more: http://prayoga.punt.nl/?foto=1

You can: zoom in, zoom out, see all, just by clicking and right clicking. It surprised me!

Feel free to copy and share… and ask me for a free Tarot Reading, if you have special requests, Osho Zen, Rider Waite, Haindle, can be provided., mail and ask and please send a picture for my focus…: gaytarot@gmail.com

LOVE

Prayoghurt

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Ten Thousant Buddha's in the Room

prayoga — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 23:34:17 GMT

Hallo al you, it would be beautiful if you posted your favorite topics too. Make Zorba the Buddha live!!! Here is some music: try to download it, I don't know how. But this is my favorite OshhhoO cd, and I got it on CD and HD so I don't need to download.

http://www.emusic.com/album/10822/10822260.html

tell me what to do with the link...:-)
and post your topics folks!!!!!

LOVE and FUN

Bliss Experiment

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Opera Night: "Rheingold"

prayoga — Sun, 26 Feb 2006 00:09:38 GMT

Hear the music read the story and if you are there look at my paintings and coment them PLEASE!

"Rheingold" modern economy and Spiritual Teaching
I get my spiritual lessons in al sorts. One of them is Opera. My dearest example is “Rheingold” from Wagner. Actually Rheingold is not an Opera but a vorspiel: an introduction. It’s the introduction to the cyclus “Der Ring des Niebelungen”. Rheingold only lasts about 3 hours which is short for Wagner but enough for me. I like Opera at home on video with a beer or whine, a stop when I want it and a replay as I please.

OK I was talking spiritual crab: Rheingold, the gold in the river Rhine. The story is quite simple, the Gods want a Castle to live in and arrange two Giants to build it. As a reward they pay with their sister in law Freia. What a way to get rid of the bitch. They forgot that Freia takes care of the Apples of Eternal Youth, so when the bitch is gone, the Gods lose their radiance... read more:
http://people.tribe.net/prayoga/blog

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OshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhO Big Fun!!!!!!!!!

prayoga — Tue, 21 Feb 2006 16:48:54 GMT

Some lover realy got the mesage, a website I love!!!!!

http://www.otoons.com/osho/otoonised_osho.html

Dont forget to do the meditation:
http://www.otoons.com/osho/mirrorO.htm

Love an enjoy ALLLTHATISZERO

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The Big Muddy Ranch, or: Animal Farm.

prayoga — Mon, 30 Jan 2006 20:25:50 GMT

See pix and the history of a desreted valey in Oregon: http://www.wasco-history.r9esd.k12.or.us/comm/bigmuddy.html

Animal Farm by George Orwell,

Being an actor, I more and more, read, direct and find plays and movies who are written before they are made true...
Animalfarm is the story of the Rajneeshbusiness in America in short. I don't blame the farmer in Orwell's nor do I blame Rajneesh, NO: I Blame The Pigs. But I might be or become one myself.

Read your litrature, enjoy life, see what happens, and COMMEND on it.
http://sites.younglife.org/camps/Wildhorse/default.aspx
See how good things go down and become a youth concentration camp...LOL

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Vivek from Frankfurt, Bhagwans life long girlfriend.

prayoga — Mon, 30 Jan 2006 22:06:06 GMT

Interview by
Ma Yoga Sudha
with
Ma Yoga Vivek
(later known as Ma Prem Nirvano)

December 17th, 1978

"I almost feel as if this interview is too precious to be printed. I want to protect the flower of a love the likes of which I have never before come across. Vivek has given us a gift. I am amazed, moved, excited, joyous at it! What I felt as she spoke, crystal blue-grey eyes flashing, was a sudden perspective of the eternity of love. It is something I felt when my father died. It is very humbling.

Vivek breathes Bhagwan, so you will find him very present here. She has been a sannyasin for seven years now, and her 'work' in the ashram is to take care of Bhagwan--cooking, medicines, messages, his library, etcetera. She is one of two people who has direct access to Bhagwan at any time; the other is Ma Yoga Laxmi. The Master/disciple relationship here is very spiritually intimate. We are given only according to our capacity to receive.

The interview happened at tea-time, an afternoon ritual, in the kitchen where Bhagwan's food is prepared. Ma Yoga Astha was chopping vegetables, Ma Anand Nirgun was peeling beans, and Vivek and I were sitting on the floor, drinking tea, as the interview began..."

Sudha: Could you tell your story of how you came to Bhagwan?

Vivek: Mmm, how I came... Well, it was in 1971. Actually it all started in 1970 when I was living in Europe, in Frankfurt. One day an Indian walked into our house, and none of us knew him, he wasn't a friend of anybody; he just walked in. We all thought that he was a friend of somebody else, and they thought that he was a friend of so and so, and so on.
He just stayed the night and the following morning when we all got together for breakfast, we all said to each other, "Well, whooz he?" (Vivek is laughing at the joke) and none of us knew who he was. But he was so nice and he just fitted into the house so well, we all decided that he could stay. We asked him how he came and he said he was walking and he passed the house and just felt to come in, so he came in.
He stayed for a couple of months, and then one day he decided that he was going back to his home, back to India. And when he said that, suddenly I just got this feeling, for no reason, just a feeling, that I was going to go with him. When I said that, everyone was just dumbfounded, because I was the type with a steady job and I had my own apartment and...well, I was very straight. So when they heard that I was going to go to India...

Sudha: Going off with a stranger!

Vivek: Actually, by then he wasn't so strange. He was quite nice. Then when the time came for me to go, still people didn't believe me. I got all my bags and I packed them up and I sold the apartment, threw in my job, and still nobody really believed that I was going to go. And then the day came, and they drove us to the airport, and...I didn't know why, it was just a feeling that I was going to go with him.
And I didn't know what I was going to do there. I thought at the most I would visit the Himalayas, go to the mountains, but other than that I just had no idea. And then when I got to Bombay...(thoughtful)...when I got to Bombay I still didn't know. I felt like turning back. And the first thing I saw in Bombay was a rat! This huge rat that sat right at our feet! It was really amazing; that was the first rat I'd ever seen.

Sudha: The first rat you'd ever seen! God!

Vivek: Yes! Ever, ever seen! Yes. Then we got in a rickshaw and we drove through Santa Cruz to Bombay, and you know how it smells in Santa Cruz--ugh! And I kept thinking, "What am I doing here?" I didn't know what I was doing! I didn't know why I had come, and it certainly wasn't for Ravi--that's the name of the Indian fellow--and it wasn't to come to India at all. I was in a daze the whole trip, from the time I had decided till right up until, in fact, I met Bhagwan. I was in a daze, a complete daze, walking around Bombay in a complete daze.
I was staying in Ravi's house with his parents, and everybody was out one day and suddenly there was a knock at the door, and there stood an Australian, a Westerner! So I said, "Come in, come in!" (laughs in renewed relief) I felt an instant liking for him. And that night he said, "Let's go to a lecture of Acharya Rajneesh." I said no, I don't want to go to any lecture. He said, "Just come." It was a Hindi lecture, thousands and thousands of Indians. I said, "No, I don't want to go," but I went anyway. I don't know why, I just went.
We were a little late and Bhagwan was already there, and he was sitting on the stage, cross-legged, with a shawl. He was speaking in Hindi and I was right at the back. There were thousands of Indians! It was out in the open, in the Cross Maidan, near Churchgate. And Bhagwan was like a tiny speck right from the back. We went forward, forward...

Sudha: Oh, I can't bear it!

Vivek: (continues, laughing) I walked up close and sat down and went whoops! That was it, that was just it.
Michael, the Australian, nudged me; he obviously wanted to leave, he had had enough. And I said, "NO! No, I can't go! I have to stay." And so we stayed until the end of the lecture. And then I was in more of a daze, because this was totally foreign to me...this sort of...being. I don't know--it was just totally foreign.
I was completely taken. I didn't know what was happening or who this man was. And then we went home. The next night he said, "There's a meditation camp at Mount Abu. Do you want to come?" And I said at first, "Oh no! I can't meditate. They will just throw me out." And he said, "It's not like that." He said, "Anyone can come, anyone can come." And so we went there, and I saw these people meditating, doing the Dynamic.

Sudha: Did you do the Dynamic?

Vivek: I saw these people doing the Dynamic and I hid in the bushes. For two days I hid in the bushes! I didn't know what was happening to these people--they were doing all this deep breathing and catharting and the hoo and jumping up and down and laughing and crying and screaming and going naked! I didn't know quite what it was all about.
And then one day, a quite l-a-r-g-e woman came up to me--you know her; it was Taru--and she said, "The Acharya is seeing that you are not doing anything!" (laughing and scrunching up in mock fright) Ohhh! And I blurted out, "But I can't do the breathing I'm really stuck on the breathing I can't do the breathing..." She said (in a very authoritative voice), "The Acharya wants to see you at three-thirty." ('Archarya' mans 'teacher.' It is what Bhagwan was called before many disciples began to come and before he started initiating people into sannyas. 'Bhagwan' means 'the blessed one.')

All the kitchen in unison: Oh, ohhhh....

Vivek: I was sort of scared and at the same time excited. So I went to the Circuit House where Bhagwan was staying, and one Indian woman who I don't know told me to wait for a few minutes. I went to the door and I stood at the door, and Bhagwan was sitting on a chair cross-legged with just a lunghi on, and he was talking to an Indian. And as he was talking to the Indian he looked at me while I was standing at the door, and my knees buckled (giggling), they just buckled, and an Indian standing behind me held me up. I think I must have gone limp.
Then I went in, and Bhagwan said, "Are you having trouble with the meditations?" And I looked at him...and I looked out the window at the sky. I didn't answer his question. I couldn't. I wanted to but I couldn't. I just looked at the sky...for a few minutes. I don't know what happened but I think I might have passed out for a few minutes because I can't remember what happened in those few minutes. I must have come back from... I don't know...something. He told me how to do the meditations. He told me something else which I don't remember. And that was that.
Another day, in the evening, when we were doing the Hoo (Tratak), Bhagwan was up on the stage, and something happened that night. I wasn't a sannyasin yet. After the meditation, when Bhagwan was going into the car outside, he called me over, because I was just standing on the outside and everyone was just clamoring around him. He called me over and he put his arm around my shoulder and he said, "You're going to come and live with me. Come to Bombay and you'll live with me." And that was the first time he'd ever said anything like that. And when he said it he put his arm around my shoulder and I just leaned against his chest. It felt...it felt like a continuation of something that I had forgotten...that just came right back.
And that night I couldn't sleep. I just sat on the balcony, and I knew that "Yes, of course! Yessss..." Then I began to relax into the meditations and into the camp. I think the next day one westerner came up to me when we were doing the free expression, which was in the afternoon. She said, "You know (voice full of warning), the Acharya has his eye on you." (giggles) She told me to come and sit closer, so I sat closer, just a few feet from where he was sitting. This is another thing that happened to me--I just started crying, for no reason. You know when you just start crying and crying and you just can't stop?

Sudha: It's so lovely.

Vivek: And you don't even know why you're crying! And you just sit there and keep crying and crying. And just tears pouring down and my nose pouring down (gesturing what it felt like to have a runny nose in Bhagwan's presence) and slobbering and drooling (laughter ringing through the kitchen). Also, at the same time it was very funny because there was a man sitting next to me, and he had a handkerchief on the floor--and I so wanted to get that handkerchief! I had one eye on this handkerchief. But I couldn't move my body to get this handkerchief, I couldn't move my hand. And I was looking at myself! I was like at a distance and I was looking at myself, and I wanted to get that handkerchief and I couldn't, and I was just crying soooo much.

Sudha: Had you ever had experiences like that before?

Vivek: Never, never. It was all totally new to me. That camp was just explosion after explosion after explosion; every day something happened. I didn't know what was happening but I just allowed it--everything felt so beautiful, I just let everything come in. And after that particular experience of just crying and crying, of just seeing my mind and seeing my body, after the meditation I just sat there. It was all hilly, all mountainous. and one girl came up to me and asked me what was happening and...it was...(at this point Vivek is speechless) it was totally beyond anything that I had read or felt. So that was how I started. Then I went back to Bombay and took sannyas.

Sudha: At that point, had you consciously remembered anything about having been with Bhagwan before?

Vivek: No, not of being with Bhagwan. A few days after I took sannyas he was giving lectures in English in his room, in his bedroom. There were so few people, maybe thirty people. We were all gathered in a room, and I suddenly had a... There were so many people and everyone was talking, talking, talking. I was just sitting on the bed. Something went click! (Vivek gestures with her hands, a thing that looks like a flip-over in her belly). It went shoop, shuushh, and I suddenly went in. And that was...whoosh (here we all laugh, I comment about the flip-flop that my own belly just did). I then had an experience of one past life; it wasn't with Bhagwan. I didn't know anything about past lives.

Sudha: You wondered what was going on?

Vivek: I didn't know anything about past lives or reincarnation or anything! I thought the Christian way--you only have one life, your only life, and that's it. So when this happened I came back to this...1971 life...

(Sudha: I am beginning to feel a sort of time disorientation just listening to Vivek speak. Because of this experience she obviously has a different perspective of time and space. I can feel it as she talks.)

Vivek goes on: I didn't know if I was crazy or hallucinating. But another part of my mind knew that what had happened was very real; it was something very authentic that had just happened. And I was completely spaced-out--I was not in that life, not in this life (she laughs, amused) and not anywhere. It was like I was on planet Pluto.
And then it was time to go into the lecture and I was sitting by the door--and I felt it happening again. It went click, whuup! and I think I passed out and someone took me out. All I remember is being back in the other room again. And at the end of the lecture, Bhagwan called to Laxmi's desk on the intercom and so I went in. He asked what was the matter, what happened. Of course he knew, he just wanted me to say it.
One of the first thing Bhagwan said to me after sannyas was, "Do you remember me? Do you remember anything about me?" (We are all giggling hysterically at this point, with interjections of "Oh god!" and "I can't bear it!") And when he said that, again I went click. It goes like a click! It goes 'click,' like that. Literally everything gets turned inside-out. And the only thing that came out of my mouth was, "I remember that you're someone I loved very much." I didn't remember then exactly who I was. The only thing that came was he is someone I loved very much. And for me to say that at that time! I was still pretty straight.
The time it did come was...(asking aside to Astha, "When was it that we came to Poona? In '73?")...after Bhagwan told me. He asked me again if I could remember. I just wasn't clear. And that night as I was lying in bed, my death came back, when I died, and the house, and my father. My mother had left. She was something! She had gone off to Pakistan with another man, she fell in love with him. I'm not sure if she left while I was still there (again laughing at the absurdity) or if she left after I died. I think she left before I did. Then the feeling of my death came. Everyone was outside the house sitting on the veranda or in the garden. But Bhagwan was in the room, and I was just with him.

Sudha: Did you enjoy it, the death? Do you remember being afraid, or did you slip through it? (At this point I will explain that Vivek is actually referring to Bhagwan in his present body. At the time he was about seventeen, two years older than Vivek, or Shashi, was when she died.)

Vivek: I was fighting at that time. Bhagwan said that I was fighting also--because I just wanted to be with him, and I didn't want to leave him. It was, umm...

(There is a deep, long silence of thirty or so seconds, an eternity. Vivek has hidden her face behind her long hair. She is crying. I look around for support--Astha's hand is slightly trembling as she continues to chop vegetables, Nirgun is holding a bean and staring into space. the love is dripping on the floor like honey.)

..Anyway, I came back! (speaking through her tears) Just before I died, I made him promise that he would call me back, that wherever I was he would bring me back, and I made him promise that (smiling shyly) he...wouldn't go with another woman, that he wouldn't get married! This I don't remember, this is what he told me.

Sudha: (thoughtfully) He kept his promise.

Vivek: (still through her tears mixed with joy, laughing now) Yes. I remember that the house where we lived was right next to the temple where Bhagwan used to meditate every day. This is how I saw him--he used to go to the temple and I used to see him when I was in the garden or looking out of the window. I used to see him! He says I used to follow him into the temple (with a twinkle of mischief in her eye) to annoy him!

Sudha: And tempt him!

Vivek: I didn't tempt him. I used to just plainly annoy him. And the temple is situated right on top of a cliff, and there is a river right down below.

Sudha: Where was this?

Vivek: In Gadarwara. Where Bhagwan was born. This is the river that Bhagwan often talks about in the lectures, where he used to go swimming. A few times I used to go swimming with him. But usually he just wanted to be by himself. I was a tomboy then, and Bhagwan says that he used to have to get one friend of his--his name was Shyam--to guard the temple door, "So that Shashi doesn't come in and disturb me anymore!" (Shashi was Vivek's name then) And I used to bring him food--chapattis and dahl.

Sudha: To the temple?

Vivek: Yes. So that after meditating he could eat.

Sudha: How did it finally come to pass that you started to live with him?

Vivek: Well, when he said that at Mount Abu, he again said it many, many times. "You're going to live with me." And I just kept saying, "When, when, when?" (laughing at her frustration) And he would say, "The time is not right." And then one day he said, "Now you come in." I said, "Now?" He said, "Yes!" Just like that. And at first I didn't believe him because I had been waiting for two years.

Sudha: That long?

Vivek: Yes. I didn't start living there and start looking after him sort of permanently, you know, doing everything for him, until '73. We moved to Poona in '74, so it must have been in '73 that I totally looked after him and moved in. Ohhh!
As days went by I realized that he really meant it, and then when we moved to Poona that somehow crystallized.

Sudha: So your whole work and your whole meditation has been to look after him? Your whole everything!

Vivek: Yes, yes. To look after his body. In a way I can see it needs a lot of looking after. In another way it doesn't need much looking after, you just have to float with it. I learned that it was much better than worrying myself sick about it which is what I used to do. I used to become so depressed when he became ill but now I have learned to accept what happens to his body and at the same time do the absolute best that I possibly can. It really helps his body if I don't become unhappy about his illnesses.
So now I look at the situation and just do everything I can do to help him. When he gets ill, you can't say "Okay, now what does he have? Give him this medicine or that medicine." You have to look at what he has, and look at his eyes, look at his face. And then you sort of see, "Well perhaps this will do." But you can't say that because he has this thing and the doctors say you have to give him that, that you just give him that. So you have to feel. Before, the first few years, he was...he wasn't...he was very...he wasn't helping in any way in the sense that...

Sudha: He wasn't helping you to take care of him?

Vivek: No! When he was ill he wouldn't say that he wasn't feeling well, but now he does. Now he helps too. He says, well this is happening and that's happening--"Perhaps if you give me this drug it will help." Before he used to not even say that he was feeling ill! And the worst thing was when he was having attacks, asthma attacks. Obviously, when it had happened I could tell. But now he says when he feels it coming, and it's beautiful--you just give him the drug. It doesn't stop it but it relieves the worst part of it, the choking, and the part that stops him breathing. So now he's beautiful--he says when he fells that something is coming up, and before he never even used to say when it was actually happening. I would just have to feel.

Sudha: Have you ever had any spells of resistance, or rough spells? How is it being so consistently close to his energy?

Vivek: In the beginning, but not now. Now everything flows just beautifully. Before I was living with him--obviously, that's why he was waiting--it was like I was...I was...I was a nasty girl! Yes, I really was. I don't know if it was resistance, but I was going through things, obviously, like everybody else. In the beginning it was, I don't know what--just the usual rough times. Now everything is amazing, non-serious and laughing and light.
(a long pause, and suddenly Vivek pipes up...) I'll tell you the best part! (We all laugh--you mean it could be better? Some panting sounds and woof-woofs in the background.)
The most beautiful part--which even now, every day when I see it, it gets more beautiful and more beautiful--is to see Bhagwan sleeping. When he goes to sleep in the afternoon I go after him, so when I come in he's already sleeping. If I'm lucky his face is turned towards me, and...That to me is the whole epitome of being with him--to be with him when he's sleeping.
It's like he's there and he's not there; like he's a newborn child, like a baby, and at the same time it's like he's a wise old man that's been living aeons and aeons and has gone through every kind of situation and experience, just everything, and yet completely and utterly untouched. He is like a newborn babe, he's also like a very ancient, wise old man. It's like...somehow... an emptiness lying there, and at the same time a fullness. The feeling is there that he's not there, and somehow the body is just breathing, somehow. I see the blanket going up and down and I think, "Ah, he's still breathing." And then I see him turn to the other side and I think, "Ah, he's still able to move."

Sudha: I have felt that watching him in lecture--as though seeing a dead man, but he's still moving, it's still happening.

Vivek: Yes. I get that sensation that he's not there and just somehow his body is still there. When you look at him you still get that feeling that he's full of vitality at the same time! Looking at him, my feeling is that how is the body still managing to be here!? How is he breathing!? How is the heart still pumping!? And then you see at the same time that he's full of life. And he's glowing, just totally glowing, and his face is just auras and auras and auras of gold. He just looks like gold and gold and gold! (gesturing bigger and bigger with her arms, filling up the kitchen with his gold)
That to me is the epitome of being with him, and being here--to lie down next to him and be able to feel...and see.... This happens to me in the afternoons, because at night it's all dark, you can't see. And as I lie there, he's like a big bundle of fluff! I just feel very protective; I somehow want to protect him and tuck him in! (giggling) He sleeps totally covered, especially in the winter, except for the top of his head and his forehead, and his face is showing.
Sometimes I do a meditation; not so much a meditation, but it happens. When I go off to sleep with Bhagwan there, I also get a strong feeling of leaving the body. It's somehow easy for me to have this feeling of floating off, away, and then going off to sleep in that space.

Sudha: Does he now ever make it difficult for you to take care of him? I heard a story of how you once locked him into his room because he was ill and still wanted to give us the lecture.

Vivek: Yes! Oh yes, yes. It was around that time in fact that the situation with his health began to change. How else can I say it? That was at the time when he was still not telling me when he was feeling sick and not telling me when he wanted medicine. Yes, he was coughing, he was coughing all night, he had such a bad cold, and he wanted to go to lecture. And I couldn't possibly understand how he could possibly speak in that state. It was just amazing! And I said, "You know, if you go and speak in that state you're going to make yourself much worse."
But he just insisted! (really laughing, after all, she is the disciple and he is the Master) Imagine! I realized I had to do something about this. It was also a climactic thing of all the years before when he wasn't telling me when he wasn't feeling well. And, and...yes, I locked him in. And I told Laxmi, "Laxmi, Bhagwan is not coming out." I don't know if she knew that I locked him in or not, but a few days later everybody knew about it. Everybody was asking, "Did you really lock him in?" Perhaps I told Laxmi afterwards that I locked him in, I can't remember. I just knew that I had to put my foot down at some time, and that just happened to be the time.
After that he really started to cooperate, and really, since then his health has been much, much better. It took a turn, it really took a turn. It changed so much that now... (aside to Astha: Could you put the water for the tea on?) What was I saying? Oh yes--now he tells me if he's not feeling too good and to cancel the lecture. Also the same for darshan--two or three times I have suggested, but other times he himself says, "Perhaps I won't go to lecture." Which is wonderful, beautiful. I can take better care of him. And it just seems a much better way.

Sudha: (At this point I am looking at Vivek in wonder--no trips, no problems, no 'work.')...So you don't worry about enlightenment or anything like that?

Vivek: Me!? (we are all laughing and very inexplicably joyous)

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Ma Yoga Vivek aka Ma Prem Nirvano left her body on December 9, 1989.

First published in the January 1979 edition of the Sannyas Magazine.

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The Dynamic Meditation, a tool for the pigs.

prayoga — Mon, 30 Jan 2006 20:00:46 GMT

As much as I loved Bhagwan and I valued his meditation teachings there was ONE I never got into my system, and I am GLAD ABOUT THAT!
Being stubborn and self-wise has prevented me for Big mistakes in my life before. But the "Holy Dynamic Meditation" was a tool for the Pigs to devide the animals. As in "Animal farm" all pigs were equal but some were more equal then others. They ran the farm, or The Ranch, as one calls it.
And I allways refused, as I would refuse a crucifixion. Oh, I tried it, that Dynamic, but never Liked it. And as Bhagwan allways told me, if you don't like it, don't do it...:-))))

Now someone else on Dynamic and it gives me a far better view, and for me it fits in better in the total spectrum of Kundalini, Nadahbram, and what else there is to enjoy!!!!
http://home.att.net/~meditation/Osho.html
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*Dynamic Meditation: (warning) This spectacular meditation method was Rajneesh's trademark, and remains a tremendously effective tool for naturally expanding consciousness. Rajneesh never did the technique himself because he didn't need to. He developed the method simply by observing his disciples, who would occasionally go into spontaneous body movements during his early meditation camps. When his judgment started to decline he unfortunately changed the third and fourth stage of the method into a pointless torture test. The correct and most effective version of this meditation technique has four stages, each lasting ten minutes.

Stage #1) Start by standing with your eyes closed and breath deep and fast through your nose for ten minutes. Allow your body to move freely. Jump, sway back and forth, or use any physical motion that helps you pump more oxygen into your lungs.

Stage #2) The second ten minute stage is one of catharsis. Let go totally and be spontaneous. You may dance or roll on the ground. For once in your life screaming is allowed and encouraged. You must act out any anger you feel in a safe way, such as beating the earth with your hands. All the suppressed emotions from your subconscious mind are to be released.

Stage #3) In the third stage you jump up and down yelling Hoo! Hoo! Hoo! continuously for ten minutes. This sounds silly, and is funny, but the loud vibration of your voice travels down to your centers of stored energy and pushes that energy upward. When doing this stage it is important to keep your arms loose and in a natural position. Do not hold your arms over your head as that position can be medically dangerous.

Stage #4) The fourth ten minute stage is complete relaxation and quiet. Flop down on your back, get comfortable, and just let go. Be as a dead man, totally surrendered to the cosmos. Enjoy the tremendous energy you have unleashed in the first three stages and become a silent witness to the ocean as it flows into the drop. Become the ocean.

Rajneesh unwisely changed the third stage of the method to rigidly holding your arms over your head while shouting Hoo! Even worse, he changed the fourth stage to freezing in place like a statue with your arms still awkwardly held over your head. This method is not only uncomfortable to the point of torture, it can also be medically dangerous for those with an underlying heart condition. When you stand with arms elevated over your head you increase your level of orthostatic stress. This means that your heart must work harder to pump blood that has traveled down to your legs back up to your heart and on to your brain. You could easily pass out in this position or induce a heart attack in individuals with coronary artery disease.

Freezing in place makes deep relaxation impossible as it keeps your mind's controlling functions fully operational. This holds your consciousness on the surface, defeating the purpose of the exercise. The point of the technique was to have three stages of intense action followed by a fourth stage of deep relaxation and complete let go. Rajneesh himself could never have practiced the freeze method even in his youth. Asking his disciples to do it simply showed that he had lost touch with physical reality. Rajneesh was a fallible human being, never a perfect God.

I advise students to only use the enjoyable early version of Dynamic Meditation and not the pointlessly difficult freeze method version. This wonderful technique was intended to grow with the student and change as the student changes. After a few years of practicing the method vigorously, the first three stages of the meditation should drop away spontaneously. You then go into the meditation hall, take a few deep breaths, and immediately go deep into the ecstasy of the fourth stage. Rajneesh intended the method to be fluid, health giving, and fun. Those new students who wish to experiment with Rajneesh Dynamic Meditation should read the section on Cathartic Dancing Meditation in Meditation Handbook for further warnings and details before experimenting with this powerful technique.
http://home.att.net/~meditation/Osho.html
Christopher Calder

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Memories... (more...???... share...!!!...)

prayoga — Mon, 30 Jan 2006 22:46:36 GMT

Seeing Bhagwan and Vivek walking in a beatifull garden to a (?) lecture, brings me back to the joy days of my first sannyas experiences. Picture 1982, me 22 years old, having seen sannyasins in Amsterdam turning an old 19th sentury prison in a beautifull building to live in. Me returning to the northern countrysite running in to a bunch of friends who joined Bhagwan!!! JOY, I was to afraid to connect with sannyasins in Amsterdam, now my own old friends were sannyasins.

Next, one beatifull evening in june, me joining the first Kundalini meditation, in a wonderfull village meditation centre. Meeting people so lovely I never had experienced people could be. And Bhagwan, first, the strange indian dialect, wich I got in about 10 minutes. After that I never missed a word he said anymore.

A "saint" who tells jokes, a "saint" who talks about fuck, a "saint" who sais: the gouvernment, the education, your parents, they all SUCK! IT'S ABOUT YOU, DIDN'T YOU GET THAT??? No, I didn't get that before, that I live, I love, I breathe, it was all new.

If you are smart, reading Bhagwan is difficult, it's all the same. IT IS YOU!!!
Thats the whole message. I AM IT
I am the universe, me, the world, I AM...

Kundalini in a warm summernight is never to forget again, nor is the taste of Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh.

Blessed Be, Thou art That,
Swami Bliss Experiment...

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Ma Anand Sheela.

prayoga — Sun, 22 Jan 2006 09:00:08 GMT

Recently I saw an interview and read artikles about the one who got the blame for the Rajneeshpuram debacle: Ma Anand Sheela.
I will look up the links and share my experiences later with you.
It made me very pleased to see that Sheela still was deeply in love with Bhagwan. And I felt ashamed that she had served times in jail for the sinns more of us commited.
She now runs a senior-recedence in Switserland and takes care of older people.
It was an eye opener to see Sheela again.
I'll keep you informed.

LOVE and FUNN
Prayoga

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How GREAT was Rajneeshpuram Oregon???

prayoga — Sun, 22 Jan 2006 08:55:03 GMT

Well get some Spice in this rejoycing wonderfull tribe.
Yews liberated from Auschwich were just as happy as Bhagwan leaving Oregon.
Jezus would have smiled wenn he was liberatet from Pilate's palace.
The sad sick smile of Bhagwan wenn returned to Puna made me weep very deep. He doesn't LIVE on Yahoo...He is DEAD, just as Jezus is dead. We waisted his time, he tryed to teach us and we made a concentrationcamp in Oregon.
Share your experiences and stories.

LOVE and FUNN
Prayoga

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The Rise & Fall of Rajneeshpuram

prayoga — Tue, 24 Jan 2006 11:43:17 GMT

Quite a long artike but very complete, read on at the link below
Sven Davisson

Seeing Red In Cattle Country

The Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh (later known simply as Osho) was born Chandra Mohan in the village of Kuchwada in the Indian state of Madhya Pradesh on 11 December 1931. Due to the grace with which the young boy carried himself, his family began calling him “raja” or “king.” By his own account, he attained the state enlightenment on 21 March 1953, though he kept it a secret for many years after. He taught briefly at a Sanskrit university and began traveling the country teaching. By the early 60’s he was conducting large meditation camps at locations such as Mt. Abu in 1964. In 1970, Rajneesh settled in Bombay where he began to give regular discourses to a growing number. It was in Bombay that Rajneesh initiated his first disciples giving his twist on the ancient India tradition of sannyas.

In 1974, the movement, under the management of Ma Laxmi bought land in the Indian town of Pune, north of Mumbai (Bombay). Laxmi was the first in a line of powerful female “personal secretaries” that would hold despotic control over the management of the business of running the religious movement. Rajneesh and his group of early disciples moved to Pune compound, located in the Koregon park neighborhood, and established the Acharya Rajneesh Ashram.

At the ashram, Rajneesh gave daily morning discourses (alternating Hindi and English) and held evening meetings, darshans, where he initiated new disciples and answered personal questions. Throughout the 70’s, the ashram attracted increasing numbers of international visitors and became one of the focal points of the spiritual tourism that flourished throughout the decade.

The topics of Rajneeh’s talks ran the breadth of the religious spectrum—from Indian teachers, through Jewish mystics to the wisdom of the Zen Masters. He introduced several revolutionary “active” meditation techniques, designed specifically for the western mind combining exorcise and mindfulness. In addition to a wide and varied selection of meditations, a multitude of therapy techniques and workshops arose at the ashram. By the late 70’s the “therapists” had become something akin to a priestly class within the movement.

In 1981, another female disciple, Ma Anand Sheela, displaced Laxmi as Bhagwan’s secretary. Under Sheela’s direction, they began searching for land large enough to establish a commune. Laxmi was effectively banished from the ashram, sent out to search for possible sites in India. Meanwhile, Sheela funneled several million dollars to a small New Jersey meditation center, Chidvilas. Later in that year, Rajneesh flew to the United States on a medical visa granted under the pretext that he was to receive treatment for his back. The group remained in New Jersey for a few months and then moved to Oregon where Sheela had purchased a defunct ranch known locally as “the Big Muddy.” The ranch consisted of 64,000 acres (126 square miles) of Oregon desert land and very few buildings. Though Sheela presented herself a shrewd business person, she paid $5.75 million for land that was assessed for the previous year’s taxes at only $198,000.

Over the course of the next three years, Rajneesh sannyasins would transform this unpromising parcel into a city that supported at its height 7,000 regular residents with 15,000 annual visitors (mostly concentrated into annual July-August “World Celebrations”). The city, incorporated briefly as Rajneeshpuram, Oregon, had its own post office, school, fire and police departments, downtown malls and restaurants. Its state-of-the-art reservoir even won an award for its innovative ecological design.

Change of this scale, of course, put stresses on the local community. The commune residents, especially the management, were very quickly at odds with the near-by town of Antelope. The Attorney General of Oregon, David Frohnmeyer maintained throughout that the incorporation of Rajneeshpuram violated the constitutional separation of church and state. His action against Rajneeshpuram was still working its way toward the Oregon Supreme Court in 1985. An “environmental” group 1,000 Friends of Oregon also fought the incorporation of Rajneeshpuram from the first public hearing onwards. Due to the questionable standing of Rajneeshpuram and the objections of 1,000 Friends to commercial use of the Ranch, the Oregon Land Use Commission suggested that the sannyasins locate their publishing and distribution business in the closest town, Antelope. The commune began to purchase real estate in the town and sannyasins registered to vote. Before sannyasins relocated there, the population of Antelope, OR was 40 mostly elderly and retired. Due to the influx of new residents, 3 sannyasins were elected to the 6 person town council. The 3 older councilors refused to sit in the same room with the newly elected sannyasins and effectively resigned their seats. Through default the Rajneesh followers took over the city government. Around this time the 40 original Antelope residents attempted unsuccessfully to disincorporate the town.

A similar chain of events occurred with the town school board. At the resident’s request, the sannyasins had agreed to educate their children at Rajneeshpuram and not Antelope schools. The school tax the residents of Rajneeshpuram paid, however, continued to support the Antelope school. Sannyasins were then elected to the Antelope school board. The previous board had gerrymandered the school district in an attempt to keep Rajneeshpuram outside of its boundaries. The county invalidated the election of the non-sannyasin board members, because in the redrawing of the district they had mistakenly drawn their own homes outside the new district. Not residing in the school district they were no longer eligible to be on the board. Again, the sannyasins “took over” by default.

Both of these occurrences and the sannyasin purchase of real estate in Antelope—the mayor herself working as real estate agent for most of the transactions—were used against the Rajneesh sannyasins. Attorney General Frohnmeyer, state congressmen, state senators Hatfield and Packwood as well as the “concerned citizens” of Oregon viewed these actions as a take-over and argued that the aggressive sannyasins would not stop short of attempting to take over the county and then the state. The sannyasin presence was quickly characterized as a threat to the very way of life of eastern Oregon. Sannyasin control of Antelope was seen as a coup de tat and not the democratic process at work. By many of the government players, the taking over of the school board was the moment that the tide turned completely against the commune and its residents.

Throughout this period, Rajneesh himself was entirely silent. When he came to America, he had entered a silent period—never speaking publicly, instead, he said, teaching through his presence. As the Oregon battle began to hit the national media, first appearing on an episode of ABC’s Nightline in 1983, the U.S. immigration service began arguing the invalidity of Rajneesh’s visa. His medical visa had been renewed as a teaching visa and, the authorities argued, one could not be a teacher if one did not teach, i.e. talk publicly. Ironically at the same time Oregon’s Attorney General was arguing that Rajneesh and his followers were a religion and as such were violating the constitutional separation of church and state.

Rajneeshpuram exemplifies both the best and the worst of modern cult phenomenon. The collective activity of the commune residents gave rise to the greatest intentional community experiment the modern age has seen. In an article in The New Yorker, journalist Frances Fitzgerald detailed some of the accomplishments the commune had managed by 1983: cleared and planted 3,000 acres of land, built a 350-million-gallon reservoir and 14 irrigation systems, created a truck farm that provided 90% of the vegetables needed to feed that Ranch, a poultry and dairy farm to provide milk and eggs, a 10 megawatt power substation, an 85-bus public transportation system, an urban-use sewer system, a state-of-the-art telephone and computer communications center and 250,000 sq. feet of residential space.

On the other side, the commune was a complex business structure built to centralize absolute power in one person, Ma Anand Sheela. She and her band of loyal supporters ran the commune with an extremely heavy hand and provided a combative public face that was readily and appreciatively displayed by the media. By 1985 there was increased hardship and unrest within the commune itself. Sheela and her coterie of female managers, known collectively as the “Mas,” created what Rajneesh himself would later refer to as “a fascist concentration camp.” Upon entering the U.S., Sheela had established the religion of Rajneeshism, created a bible in the three volume Book of Rajneeshism and began to style herself a high priestess. By 1984 she had begun wearing “papal” style robes. Bhagwan’s own silence lent de facto support to Sheela’s transformation of the movement.

It is without question, that power corrupted Sheela. She described herself as Queen (and Rajneesh was her king) and started to speak of sannyasins as “her people.” She relished confrontation and pursued rather than backed down from a fight—whether with the media, local officials, INS inspector or a fellow sannyasin. When she spoke, it was taken as if Rajneesh spoke. She was the metatron speaking for the silent, remote godhead.

During the later period of Rajneeshpuram, a tension arose between Jesus Grove, Sheela’s compound and Lao Tzu House, Rajneesh’s residence. In late 1984 Rajneesh began speaking again to small groups of sannyasins invited into his house. When Rajneesh informed Sheela he would begin speaking, witnesses report, she begged him no to. When he finally did begin talking publicly again, Sheela spent days in her room crying. Rajneesh’s talks were video-taped and later played to the full commune. During the summer of 1984, Sheela attempted to cancel the public display of the talks, claiming that they were interfering with the work of building the commune. A minor rebellion erupted and she relented, allowing the videos to be shown late at night when few of the exhausted sannyasins could manage to stay awake to view them.

Satya Bharti in her book Promises of Paradise, describes one night where the video was not shown. Sheela announced that the tape had been accidentally destroyed. In this talk called simply “number 20,” Bhagwan spoke out against Sheela and her management of the commune, saying that she had transformed paradise into a “fascist concentration camp.” He also outlined his concept of a world filled with autonomous communes where no person would have absolute power.

Ma Nirgun (Rosemary Hamilton), Rajneesh’s cook during the later commune period, relates her experiences of living in Lao Tzu House in Hellbent for Enlightenment. Under the pretext of security Sheela ordered the construction of a large fence, complete with guard towers, around Rajneesh’s residence. Guards armed with Uzi’s followed Rajneesh and his entourage everywhere. No one entered or left Lao Tzu without Sheela knowing about it. Nirgun tells of one day walking outside the house and realizing that the fence was not to keep attackers out, but to keep the residents in. “When I got back to LaoTzu, I suddenly saw it with new eyes: a prison. The high link fence, the gates that delivered a powerful shock; the guardhouse towering over us, manned round the clokc by two still figures holding guns—until this moment I had seen them as a deterrent to hostile outsiders. Now they seemed to be directed against us.” She also tells of a conversation she had with one of the sentries, a sannyasin who had previously been a friend of hers. She asked why the sannyasin attitude toward her had grown cold and distant. He replied, “Sheela’s orders.” Nirgun asked if Sheela had explained her order. “She says it isn’t good to get friendly with people you might have to shoot.”

Read on: http://www.ashejournal.com/two/davisson.shtml

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Music by Indian in the Machine

prayoga — Mon, 23 Jan 2006 23:22:37 GMT

River cane birdflute in an electronic echo chamber.

IITM writes: If you desire listen with your eyes closed laying down and feel the bird energy drift into your consciousness. A bird flies knowing that it will eventually get to where it needs to go. Every bird on our planet has it's unique flightpath.

http://www.soundclick.com/pro/view/02/default.cfm?bandID=259026&content=music

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Testimonials

Awen — Mon, 23 Jan 2006 16:18:52 GMT

What specifically makes you a Zorba the Buddha?

Me, I split up a dysfunctional relationship with my mom, moved to another state, renounced a college degree I didn't want and took only to not defy her rule over my life. Now I'm free, an artist, away and very far from the ball and the chain.

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It LOOKS like a GAY-DISCO wenn you look at all the connected tribes...:-)))))

prayoga — Sun, 22 Jan 2006 18:38:48 GMT

Allthough I hope we all have a very GAY time, you understand this disco is open for all SINNERS.

Hope the music is good!!!!!!

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Dynamic Meditations

Awen — Mon, 23 Jan 2006 12:20:33 GMT

Anybody here practices them? I've been introduced to Kundalini, Nadabrahma, No Dimension, Mandala, Gourishankar and Chakra Breathing for four years now, but the only two I still practice (very sporadically) are Nadabrahma and No Dimension. Gotta love the whirling!! Wow!!!

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